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Obama threatens to veto now that Congress works
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-12-29 23:39:46
What happened to the bills in Congress in December 2014 again? They got delayed until the last absolute minute by Reid.
The House was pretty much done by the time the government was about to be shut down, and if Reid hadn't been a slow *** in getting these bills on the floor in the first place, it would have been done a while back ago.
Even after the House passed other bills, it still took 2 weeks to pass the bills in the Senate, mostly because Reid didn't even bother to put them on the floor until the last possible moment.
But I guess it's all the Republican's fault to you, isn't it? Republicans and the voters who voted the liberals out of office.
Yep, you just made all of that up. Reid passed the TRIA renewal in July, 93-4. Boehner didn't bring it to a vote until December and added a poison pill to it, and Senate Republicans killed it. Reid's fault? Nope. Boehner also tabled the FOIA transparency bill that passed the Senate, 100-0. But hey, blame Reid for that too. Thanks for the laugh.
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By Cerberus.Anjisnu 2014-12-29 23:40:16
obama does as he's told just like the rest or he gets jfk/rfk'd
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-12-30 00:06:54
Isn't vetoing stuff like the main job the presidents do?
It is, Mr. Turtle Burger :D
If vetoing is your "main job" as president, and Obama says he's hardly done it in his presidency, does that mean Pleebo is admitting that Obama hasn't done his job? If you want to read too much into a light-hearted comment, then... sure!
What would P&R be without some unnecessary nitpicking of your every word? Something different, that's what.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-12-30 00:09:51
Yep, you just made all of that up. Reid passed the TRIA renewal in July, 93-4. Boehner didn't bring it to a vote until December and added a poison pill to it, and Senate Republicans killed it. Reid's fault? Nope. Boehner also tabled the FOIA transparency bill that passed the Senate, 100-0. But hey, blame Reid for that too. Thanks for the laugh.
Um, we already bashed Boehner for the transparency bill. You're the one who can't even seem to do the same for the worst of the politicians on your side. Who are the extremists now?
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-12-30 00:29:40
Yep, you just made all of that up. Reid passed the TRIA renewal in July, 93-4. Boehner didn't bring it to a vote until December and added a poison pill to it, and Senate Republicans killed it. Reid's fault? Nope. Boehner also tabled the FOIA transparency bill that passed the Senate, 100-0. But hey, blame Reid for that too. Thanks for the laugh.
Um, we already bashed Boehner for the transparency bill. You're the one who can't even seem to do the same for the worst of the politicians on your side. Who are the extremists now?
KN did? No. He has to literally make things up and blame Reid. Just read his post, its entirely made up.
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-12-30 00:38:04
Yep, you just made all of that up. Reid passed the TRIA renewal in July, 93-4. Boehner didn't bring it to a vote until December and added a poison pill to it, and Senate Republicans killed it. Reid's fault? Nope. Boehner also tabled the FOIA transparency bill that passed the Senate, 100-0. But hey, blame Reid for that too. Thanks for the laugh.
Um, we already bashed Boehner for the transparency bill. You're the one who can't even seem to do the same for the worst of the politicians on your side. Who are the extremists now?
KN did? No. He has to literally make things up and blame Reid. Just read his post, its entirely made up.
Well he liked my post when I did several days back. Nice deflection from yourself, btw.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-12-30 01:01:54
I didnt deflect anything? I was responding to KN's jibberish.
By Altimaomega 2014-12-30 04:21:26
Yep, you just made all of that up. Reid passed the TRIA renewal in July, 93-4. Boehner didn't bring it to a vote until December and added a poison pill to it, and Senate Republicans killed it. Reid's fault? Nope. Boehner also tabled the FOIA transparency bill that passed the Senate, 100-0. But hey, blame Reid for that too. Thanks for the laugh.
Um, we already bashed Boehner for the transparency bill. You're the one who can't even seem to do the same for the worst of the politicians on your side. Who are the extremists now?
KN did? No. He has to literally make things up and blame Reid. Just read his post, its entirely made up.
Well he liked my post when I did several days back. Nice deflection from yourself, btw.
In that thread where Vic made a fool of himself yet again talking about the same damn thing. Its bad enough to do it in one thread, but this isn't even close to being on par with the global warming phenomena.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-30 06:45:16
Yep, you just made all of that up. Reid passed the TRIA renewal in July, 93-4. Boehner didn't bring it to a vote until December and added a poison pill to it, and Senate Republicans killed it. Reid's fault? Nope. Boehner also tabled the FOIA transparency bill that passed the Senate, 100-0. But hey, blame Reid for that too. Thanks for the laugh. You would have a point if those were the only two bills passed in December 2014.
Also, you would have a point if Boehner was the only one who shelved bills for the pass 4 years.
I guess those ~350 bills that the House passed (including 15+ actual job bills) that was never brought up in the Senate doesn't count for you, does it?
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-12-30 09:42:16
Quote: Obama threatens to veto now that Congress works The problem is who is congress working for.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-30 09:47:45
Quote: Obama threatens to veto now that Congress works The problem is who is congress working for. Please take your insanity over there
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2014-12-30 10:04:42
Honestly neither party gives a flying ***about the people that voted to put them in office, but the people(re:corporations and upper class donors) that wrote the checks. It wouldn't really matter who is voted in at this point, the bulk of the country is gonna get the old screw job.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-30 10:24:23
Honestly neither party gives a flying ***about the people that voted to put them in office, but the people(re:corporations and upper class donors) that wrote the checks. It wouldn't really matter who is voted in at this point, the bulk of the country is gonna get the old screw job.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-12-30 10:28:59
So, you think it's insane to distrust a politician?
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2014-12-30 10:40:14
I am the insane one, but you claim it was Obama who was unwilling to work with congress? It was the republicans goal to do anything and everything they could to stop anything he tried to do, regardless of the damage they would do to the people they were supposed to represent.
And I am going to source it for you.
Edit: and another
and another...
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-12-30 10:49:11
So, you think it's insane to distrust a politician?
Not if they have an (R) next to their name.
They're for government transparency, freedom and individual liberties!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-30 10:49:23
So, you think it's insane to distrust a politician? No, but thinking that a legislative branch of the government is making a goal to get you and only you falls within the sanity level that thread portrays.
If you want to discuss how Congress is out to get you, best post it over there where people would agree with you on.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-30 10:50:20
Posts unsubstantiated claims, and follows up with biased reporting. How did I know you would do that?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-12-30 10:53:04
Congress isn't out to get you.
The argument is that Congress has checked out on the people. That your democracy is essentially a shell for moneyed interests and corporations buying politicians with no illusion of secrecy.
It's a topic written upon in great detail by a number of prominent insiders. You know, the people who are in the 'know' up on the Hill.
Gossip or troubling insight into the seat of government? *shrug*
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2014-12-30 10:54:19
At least I have "biased reporting", and not just the voices in my head. I like how a video blankly stating that the goal is to make him a one term president, and not any number of issues the country has is "biased"
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-12-30 10:55:50
Honestly neither party gives a flying ***about the people that voted to put them in office, but the people(re:corporations and upper class donors) that wrote the checks. It wouldn't really matter who is voted in at this point, the bulk of the country is gonna get the old screw job.
No, but thinking that a legislative branch of the government is making a goal to get you and only you falls within the sanity level that thread portrays.
If you want to discuss how Congress is out to get you, best post it over there where people would agree with you on.
Where did Eyr say ANYTHING about congress making a goal of getting only him? He said congress serves their campaign contributors, not the people, which is 100% true.
Are you ever going to stop being a troll?
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-12-30 11:07:36
And now as per the KN cycle the word liberal or Obama will be dropped.
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By Cecilia Charl 2014-12-30 21:24:54
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »So, you think it's insane to distrust a politician?
Not if they have an (R) next to their name.
They're for government transparency, freedom and individual liberties!
So do the people with the (D) next to their names. They represent the (D) going up the country's ***.
By fonewear 2014-12-30 21:26:59
So, you think it's insane to distrust a woman
Yes.
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By Lakshmi.Aelius 2014-12-30 21:28:47
It's only insanity because you lost easily and didn't know what you were talking about.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-12-30 21:50:06
King, I really do believe someday you will be wealthy.
You will never be wealthy enough to vote GOP for your economic self interest.
Then again you will never be poor enough to vote Democratic for your economic self interest either.
But hey, its official, thanks to the Supremes the golden rule is now the law of the land. "Them who has the gold makes the rules."
The USA in now officially an oligarchy. Neither of us will ever be oligarchs. Neither your conservationism nor my radicalism mean a ******* thing in this 21st century.
But we will both continue to vote anyway.
/comfort
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-12-30 21:57:30
I have a lotto ticket and a dream!
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-12-30 21:58:37
By Enuyasha 2014-12-30 23:17:41
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »I have a lotto ticket and a dream! Ive got the bootstraps! If we work together and pull hard enough, we'll be successful and rich!
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-12-30 23:20:48
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »I have a lotto ticket and a dream!
Sadly, you'd have to win the lotto SEVERAL times to be anywhere near the wealth that drives congress.
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Obama threatens to veto bills passed by Congress, now that he can't use Reid to stop bills in the Senate
Quote: Warning from President Barack Obama to congressional Republicans: I have a veto pen and, come January, I won't be afraid to use it.
Since taking office in 2009, Obama has only vetoed legislation twice, both in fairly minor circumstances. But with Republicans set to take full control of Congress next year, Obama is losing his last bulwark against a barrage of bills he doesn't like: the Senate.
"I haven't used the veto pen very often since I've been in office," Obama said in an NPR interview airing Monday. "Now, I suspect, there are going to be some times where I've got to pull that pen out."
He added: "I'm going to defend gains that we've made in health care. I'm going to defend gains that we've made on environment and clean air and clean water."
Obama's notice to the GOP came as he sought to set the tone for a year in which Congress and the president are on a near-certain collision course. Buoyed by decisive gains in last month's midterm elections, Republicans are itching to use their newfound Senate majority to derail Obama's plans on immigration, climate change and health care, to name a few.
To overturn Obama's veto, Republicans would need the votes of two-thirds of the House and Senate. Their majorities in both chambers are not that large, so they would still need to persuade some Democrats to defy the president.
But Obama said he was hopeful that at least on some issues, that won't be necessary, because there's overlap between his interests and those of congressional Republicans. On that point, at least, he's in agreement with incoming Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.
"Bipartisan jobs bills will see the light of day and will make it to the President's desk, and he'll have to make decisions about ideology versus creating jobs for the middle class," McConnell said in response to Obama's comments. "There's a lot we can get done together if the president puts his famous pen to use signing bills rather than vetoing legislation his liberal allies don't like."
Potential areas for cooperation include tax reform and global trade deals — both issues where Obama and Republicans see at least partially eye to eye. Conversely, the likeliest points of friction surround Environmental Protection Agency regulations, the Keystone XL pipeline and Obama's unilateral steps on immigration, which let millions of people in the U.S. illegally avoid deportation and get work permits.
In the interview, recorded before Obama left Washington earlier this month for his annual Hawaii vacation, Obama also offered his most specific diagnosis to date of why Democrats fared so poorly in the midterms. He said he was "obviously frustrated" with the results.
"I think we had a great record for members of Congress to run on and I don't think we — myself and the Democratic Party — made as good of a case as we should have," Obama said. "And you know, as a consequence, we had really low voter turnout, and the results were bad."
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