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By Odin.Jassik 2014-12-29 13:30:13
Quote: Backpedal - to retreat from or reverse one's previous stand on any matter; shift ground
Do we need to have "what words mean" time with you, too?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-29 13:40:59
Your right, I forgot that you don't have a position, as you just like to pick at everything anyone on the opposite political spectrum to you has to say.
My bad, I forgot that you never come here to discuss anything, just to nitpick at only certain posters here.
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2014-12-29 13:44:54
threatening to veto stuff before it even reaches anything seems nothing more then a 'us vs them' party mentality. And yet, Obama thinks that he is the "greatest unifier in modern history"
Googled your phrase and nothing remotely close came up pertaining to Obama, care to source? To be honest, when I looked at the quoted remarks from a different source, I saw that it was talking about a speech he made in Boston in 2004, before he ran for president.
Somewhat relevant despite the source.
But this is what I am talking about
Quote: When asked if the U.S. is more racially divided than it was when he took office six years ago, the President responded: "No, I actually think that it's probably in its day-to-day interactions less racially divided."
So you made something up and hoped nobody would call you on it, and throw some random article that isn't even close to backing up your "quote" with a "my bad" for good measure. You should run for office
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-12-29 13:45:07
There's no partisan lean on this, you claimed to know what someone else is thinking by fabricating a quote. We all called you out, you failed to produce, and resorted to throwing poo. Also, your over-the-top sarcasm thing is pathetic.
@mods - I'm sure he'll cry for a topic ban, go ahead, I've made my point.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-12-29 13:49:17
So, Obama plans to veto Obamacare repeal #4280 and legislation promoting an incompletely vetted pipeline. This isn't news.
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By Lakshmi.Sparthosx 2014-12-29 13:54:13
KN espouses personal responsibility.
KN refuses to take responsibility constantly.
Way to live up to those values bruh.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-29 13:55:40
How about this then?
I'm sure you will find problems with it, like your need to nitpick only on certain people.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-29 13:56:20
Lakshmi.Sparthosx said: »KN espouses personal responsibility.
KN refuses to take responsibility constantly.
Way to live up to those values bruh. Show where I don't take responsibility for my actions.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-12-29 14:01:05
How about this then?
I'm sure you will find problems with it, like your need to nitpick only on certain people.
http://www.americanthinker.com/static/404.html
Oh the IRONY!
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2014-12-29 14:05:20
I feel like the page not existing is a legit nitpick
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-29 14:08:02
Works just fine.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-12-29 14:16:43
Notice how the quoted link doesn't work? It's because you changed it, but won't take responsibility for the mistake... two birds with one stone...
Also, from the article in question, that doesn't even faithfully quote Obama's speech, instead using quotations while taking EXTENSIVE journalistic license with the actual quote...
Quote: Interestingly, Obama's list of victims did not include Christians and straight white males. This is because it is open season on bashing them. According to liberals, everything wrong in the world is the fault of Christians and straight white males.
It's a blog rant from one of those elusive "persecuted white christian males", there is only a shred of fact in the entire article and it comes nowhere near your claim that Obama thinks he's the greatest unifier in modern history.
Swing and a miss!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-29 14:27:53
Sorry, but anyone half a brain could tell that the "[/url" doesn't belong in the link.
Also, what did you want me to do? Get down on my knees and beg for your forgiveness for accidentally putting a 3 letters and 2 symbols at the end of a link?
Oh lordy, I have sinned and I beg for your forgiveness, oh mighty *** Jassik, for putting a few symbols at the end of a link! Can you ever forgive me, oh great and powerful *** that you are?
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2014-12-29 14:28:42
People talk about how good things were when Bill Clinton was in charge. And that's true in many ways. But it wasn't because he shoved a far-left agenda down our throats saying we needed it. He was actually incredibly Centristic, and worked daily with the House and Senate to get things passed that were mutually agreed upon.
Ever since, both sides have been "my way or the highway, cuz my 'Merica is better than your 'Merica". It needs to stop. Sadly, every front runner on both sides seem to exude this ideal, and are generally unwilling to work with the other side. And anyone who is willing to be Centrist is shot down by both parties, or ignored or seen as idiot, reference Ron Paul.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-12-29 14:31:52
Sorry, but anyone half a brain could tell that the "[/url[/b]" doesn't belong in the link.
The bold isn't the only part that doesn't belong.
How about this then?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-29 14:32:12
Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »worked daily with the House and Senate to get things passed that were mutually agreed upon. Nearly all presidents worked with Congress, especially when Congress doesn't agree with your agenda.
Only president who has yet to work with Congress is Obama.
I hope people like their "change" they voted on....
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2014-12-29 14:33:51
Sounds like a lot of "Let's keep things the way they've been because it's easier" rather than trying to improve.
Compromising from your position of more rapid progression, to pass something that moves things at a snails pace, seems pretty ***' pointless when the rest of the world and the outlook of the people in it seem to be changing very rapidly.
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2014-12-29 14:37:38
This just in, Obama is not from the US, not even from Kenya, but he is from MARS!!
And I have a website that says so!
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-29 14:39:32
Sorry, but anyone half a brain could tell that the "[/url[/b]" doesn't belong in the link.
The bold isn't the only part that doesn't belong.
How about this then?So, when you don't agree with the article, it doesn't belong anywhere?
You know, for somebody who claims to not be a liberal, you certainly act like one...
But I guess your real goal is nearly accomplished, has it? All that's left it to lock it because you don't agree with what it says.
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2014-12-29 14:40:32
It's very odd to see rational thought associated with avatars of that character.
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2014-12-29 14:43:48
Sorry, but anyone half a brain could tell that the "[/url" doesn't belong in the link.
You are the one that put it there, not gonna babysit your ability to link "sources"
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By Bahamut.Ravael 2014-12-29 14:44:29
It's very odd to see rational thought associated with avatars of that character.

I haven't seen any rational thought from one in this thread yet....
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2014-12-29 14:49:42
It's very odd to see rational thought associated with avatars of that character.

I said it before, I will say it again, mine faces left, the "other one" faces right!
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2014-12-29 14:50:00
It's very odd to see rational thought associated with avatars of that character.

I haven't seen any rational thought from one in this thread yet.... One must have to be capable of rational thought to recognize it, I suppose.
Example:
threatening to veto stuff before it even reaches anything seems nothing more then a 'us vs them' party mentality. And yet, Obama thinks that he is the "greatest unifier in modern history"
Googled your phrase and nothing remotely close came up pertaining to Obama, care to source? To be honest, when I looked at the quoted remarks from a different source, I saw that it was talking about a speech he made in Boston in 2004, before he ran for president.
Somewhat relevant despite the source.
But this is what I am talking about
Quote: When asked if the U.S. is more racially divided than it was when he took office six years ago, the President responded: "No, I actually think that it's probably in its day-to-day interactions less racially divided."
So you made something up and hoped nobody would call you on it, and throw some random article that isn't even close to backing up your "quote" with a "my bad" for good measure. You should run for office Pretty rational and correct.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-29 14:58:50
Ravael, you have to realize this:
When you can't present an argument or counterargument, attack the person directly.
Which is basically what this thread boils down to. Not many people presented a counterargument, most of this thread has been nothing more than petty attacks on people.
Pretty soon, they are going to attack your profession, it always follows a pattern...
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-12-29 15:03:09
Time to play the victim...
it always follows a pattern...
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-12-29 15:05:20
Case in point:
Time to play the victim...
it always follows a pattern...
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By Lakshmi.Eyrhika 2014-12-29 15:05:49
Ravael, you have to realize this:
When you can't present an argument or counterargument, attack the person directly.
Which is basically what this thread boils down to. Not many people presented a counterargument, most of this thread has been nothing more than petty attacks on people.
Pretty soon, they are going to attack your profession, it always follows a pattern...
YOU made a quote
YOU failed to provide anything to back it up
YOU started attacking people when you realized you had been caught
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-12-29 15:08:19
If anyone is interested in reading the full interview rather than tiny click-bait excerpts: Transcript: President Obama's Full NPR Interview
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-12-29 15:11:15
0bambi said: There are going to be areas where we agree and I'm going to be as aggressive as I can be in getting legislation passed that I think help move the economy forward and help middle-class families. There are going to be some areas where we disagree and, you know, I haven't used the veto pen very often since I've been in office, partly because legislation that I objected to was typically blocked in the Senate even after the House took over — Republicans took over the House.
Now I suspect there are going to be some times where I've got to pull that pen out. And I'm going to defend gains that we've made in health care; I'm going to defend gains that we've made on environment and clean air and clean water.
But what I'm hopeful about — and we saw this so far at least in the lame duck — is a recognition by both Speaker Boehner and Mitch McConnell that people are looking to them to get things done and that the fact that we disagree on one thing shouldn't prohibit us from getting progress on the areas where there's some overlap. Truly, history's greatest divider.
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Obama threatens to veto bills passed by Congress, now that he can't use Reid to stop bills in the Senate
Quote: Warning from President Barack Obama to congressional Republicans: I have a veto pen and, come January, I won't be afraid to use it.
Since taking office in 2009, Obama has only vetoed legislation twice, both in fairly minor circumstances. But with Republicans set to take full control of Congress next year, Obama is losing his last bulwark against a barrage of bills he doesn't like: the Senate.
"I haven't used the veto pen very often since I've been in office," Obama said in an NPR interview airing Monday. "Now, I suspect, there are going to be some times where I've got to pull that pen out."
He added: "I'm going to defend gains that we've made in health care. I'm going to defend gains that we've made on environment and clean air and clean water."
Obama's notice to the GOP came as he sought to set the tone for a year in which Congress and the president are on a near-certain collision course. Buoyed by decisive gains in last month's midterm elections, Republicans are itching to use their newfound Senate majority to derail Obama's plans on immigration, climate change and health care, to name a few.
To overturn Obama's veto, Republicans would need the votes of two-thirds of the House and Senate. Their majorities in both chambers are not that large, so they would still need to persuade some Democrats to defy the president.
But Obama said he was hopeful that at least on some issues, that won't be necessary, because there's overlap between his interests and those of congressional Republicans. On that point, at least, he's in agreement with incoming Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky.
"Bipartisan jobs bills will see the light of day and will make it to the President's desk, and he'll have to make decisions about ideology versus creating jobs for the middle class," McConnell said in response to Obama's comments. "There's a lot we can get done together if the president puts his famous pen to use signing bills rather than vetoing legislation his liberal allies don't like."
Potential areas for cooperation include tax reform and global trade deals — both issues where Obama and Republicans see at least partially eye to eye. Conversely, the likeliest points of friction surround Environmental Protection Agency regulations, the Keystone XL pipeline and Obama's unilateral steps on immigration, which let millions of people in the U.S. illegally avoid deportation and get work permits.
In the interview, recorded before Obama left Washington earlier this month for his annual Hawaii vacation, Obama also offered his most specific diagnosis to date of why Democrats fared so poorly in the midterms. He said he was "obviously frustrated" with the results.
"I think we had a great record for members of Congress to run on and I don't think we — myself and the Democratic Party — made as good of a case as we should have," Obama said. "And you know, as a consequence, we had really low voter turnout, and the results were bad."
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