New High-tier Battlefields

I would just use normal setup and just rearrange buffs.

WHM BRD COR RDM DD DD

Haste2
March Scherzo/Carol Mad/Min Mad/Min etc
Chaos Magus etc

No tuning fork trick required. I am about 99% sure they will add an Home Point like the others.

Huh. Well, I'm a pretty well-geared RUN, now if only I knew where to get a Burg/Aegis/Ochain paladin...

...oh yeah. I'm married to one.

Looks like we're covered regardless.

But dat first visit to get da homepoint!

>What jobs you got>?
>I got Rune Fencer
> <Thanks for the offer, but i'll have to pass>

The thing about Aegis compared to a Rune that understands how to use Valiance, Leiment and One for All is that instead of just the tank being MDT capped, the entire group is capped.

Even more so if they're a Rune with Epeolatry and are awesome with Liement. And lets not forget Battuta and its awesome parrying rate and added elemental damage.

I also get a feeling that the synth materials from these is going to be ~tears for ring synthesis.

Might work if you pin hate to a Rune fencer using rng setup. Depends how the fights are set up. Zerg or Rng setup. Rune Fencer are supposed to be great at tanking magic damage.

Man I hope so. Would at least justify the stiff number of merits to enter.

Isnt there an ifrits horn in the dats that hasnt been used for anything? Maybe each avatar will get one for craftable earrings.

rather see an earring mat than a flood of tears, there are few enough buyables that cost anything as is

I hope the weapons glow :D I like shinies !

Another 119 H2H would be nice.

Lol tears. The best you will get is ramuite or carbite which drops almost every time in stellar fulcrum.

I think its Atmos. Another useless 2 hour astral flow Summon that will be as bad or worse than Odin.

With the run vs pld argument. You have to remember the avatars also have physical BPs so they possibly would wreck RUN. So I'm not saying RUN won't be good but I expect people will mainly go PLD RNG RNG RNG BRD WHM to play it safe just like people do with AAs now, there are so many other options than PLD + RNG set ups for those also, but the vast majority of players will stick with this because its common and pretty idiot proof.

Apocalypse Nigh isn't related to Wings of the Goddess.

I would hope that tears don't drop from these, titaters have to be the only reason there's been an increase of heliodors on the AH, thankfully I already got my alchemy to 106 so I don't have to care anymore.

He was suggesting it might be an earring fight akin to AN.

Really?

Not true. Rune Fencer is capable of quite a bit if people will put aside preconceived notions of what a tank should be.

The fact that the Rune can know, unequivocally, what element she's facing gives a huge advantage.

The main physical BPs I would worry about are Garuda's and Shiva's due to the number of hits, which eliminates the WHM's cureskin some. Still, even a non-Ergon RUN can get a fair amount of PDT through their gear.

When the avatar decides to spam magic, the rune fencer just giggles some and continues on her way.

why we need RUN to laugh at magic when a pld can laugh at physical and magic damage?.

I'd be glad to get any tank for these. Shouting forever for a tank for these gets old quick.

Can you tank? Can you stay alive? Don't give a *** if you're Aegis or not, lets go.

Scroll up to Zerowone's post.

Have personally seen Zerowone's RUN tank, and can personally attest to it being fairly relevant to tanking, especially for these fights. I'm not opposed to suggesting they would still need some form of Scherzo, though, to help with the severe damage possibility from physical Blood Pacts (Battatua can cover melee hits, /nin as well I imagine).

However, as was mentioned earlier, I'm really thinking a RUN & GEO combo would make these Avatars Magic damage extremely laughable. Not everyone can find a PLD with aegis on a whim.

And yes, I did just give you a Lakshmi Shoutout, Z1!

I have seen several rune fencers successfully tank crap that some players insist that PLD only can do, so yeah, I am with Buukki here even though we're on different servers.

Even PLD needs a Scherzo every now and again, and the /nin sub helps a lot with other things.

I and my LS intend to try these with both RUN and PLD and see which does best.

While RUN isn't PLD from a physical damage perspective, it's not BAD either. A RUN without ergon GS can still get PDT-55% (and with Epeolatry, PDT-75%), in a set like:
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Add Foil, Phalanx, /BLU Cocoon... it's pretty sturdy versus physical moves. I doubt a well geared RUN would be "wrecked" simply because a mob has some strong physical moves.

I don't doubt that a lot of people will bring Aegis PLD and go to town, and probably be successful in doing so. But really, if anything was tailored to RUN's strengths it sure seems like high tier avatars are exactly that. And you can even extend rune elemental resistance to other DDs with Valiance, which is a pretty handy benefit if you're using other melees.

With a RUN and everyone else going /RUN, you'll have full time elemental damage reduction for the whole party. I'm sure there will be plenty of new things in this fight too, since every single other fight has added some new aspect compared to their original versions (notice the !! above Garuda in the picture). I can't remember if regular Primes had physical damage reduction or not, but I wouldn't be too surprised if they do here.

It prolly won't happen, but if they make a fight that isn't <1min SP zergable, that require dd/nin and where the most dangerous attack are elemental run/nin will be awesome for it :D