The Supremes Tackle Birth Control

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they can have religious beliefs if they are non profit or employ less than 50 people.

once they break the 50 employee threshold or make money the dark lord anoints them as evil and then they have to do bad things.

Wait a second... Have we really gotten to page 5 without someone pointing out that the "birth control" refereed to in this case isn't the kind you take everyday, or the kind you get a shot that covers you for months at a time? This case is about emergency contraception methods. The "I need to un-fire the gun" kind.

But that doesn't support the ol' war on woman narrative so clearly its omitted. I wonder if Chanti even knows the ways she's being manipulated.

well, no. it's more about the question of whether or not a corporation has the same rights as an individual or a religious organization or a non profit.

and what hobby store everyone will go to when they loose their jobs and take nancy pelosi's advice and get a hobby....

hobby lobby

unless it's sunday, we still haven't figured out a way to make them open on sunday yet.

Or a corporation of less than 50 people....

yeah 50 is key. you can't join the evil conspiracy with only a paltry 49 people under your heel.

Right 49 people, doesn't show up on radar, but if you have one more than that, we clearly can't recognize your "corporate person hood", allow you to live your life according to your beliefs, and allow you to not pay for your employee's "emergency contraception". That too much power for a free individual to have. Much better to let those in the government make those decisions for you. It's not like they ever make bad decisions or anything.

They only track yuor deposits/withdrawals if they exceed $10,000... $9,999 is invisible to the man!

Did I miss the case where someone argued that violated their religious freedom?

My religion requires me to go to the Huff Post so I can understand my talking points.


Also there are 10,000,000 ways to get a "man" yet still be an independent woman.

You just seem to be making a big fuss over an arbitrary line in the sand... they're all over the place... 50... 10,000...

Besides that... any form of birth control would violate a catholics, among others, religious beliefs as they believe it is a sin to engage in sexual intercourse without the possibility of having a child... whether people that follow the faith actually abide by this (doubtful as we'd probably have more 19 and counting shows) is another thing altogether...

Balancing the reality of the world with the beliefs of people is a tight rope walk that we can easily fall off of. Picking or choosing which religious beliefs you wish to follow or which ones you want to force on the general public is disengenuous at best unless you're willing to fully commit yourself to the actual belief system...

You can read?

No but I recognize symbols...

Thanks for that argument against personal religious freedom. Only approved religions are recognized in Flavin's twisted world. Thank you come again....

How's that 1st amendment begin again?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;"

Good for you!

I only believe in the first amendment so I can criticize it !


Freedom of religion more like freedom from religion.

How do you even come away with something like that?

Freedom of speech is an antiquated thing that should be abolished.

No one is prohibiting your right to freedom of speech here...

Well as long as you a liberal everything will work out.

Just your right to freely practice your belief system that in no way harms someone else, *unless* you 100% follow established doctrine (which is open to lots of interpretation) as it is interpreted by Flavin....



How do you not?

I didn't care about birth control till someone told me I should.

It does harm someone else though doesn't it? You're actively working to take away specific coverage that people would have were it not for your efforts to get rid of it...

I guess I just don't understand how you can cherry pick your beliefs and then apply them as you see fit... you go against doctorine then say it is a violation of your freedoms if someone else does something that conflicts with the part of the doctorine you picked out specifically... How are people supposed to know which is sacred religious belief and which is something that can be ignored?

Edit: and than kyou for agreeing with me that no one violated his freedom of speech.

the corporate handbook!

Exactly you only "believe" what the corporation tells you to believe.

I, in no way said that only approved religions are recognized so yes I still don't understand how you got to that point...

my reference towards picking and choosing which beliefs you want to follow references peoples utter lack of commitment to their faith until they find something they agree with...

For example... oh... Im not supposed to have sex with my wife unless we're trying to have a child which I ignore and use contraception but I firmly stand behind the policy that someone should not be able to use this form of contraception after the act has already happened...

I'm not saying all religions believe this or should just that people cherry pick what they want to suit their way of life. It's disengenuous to force something upon other people using a faith that even you can't fully comply with while trying to force someone that doesn't believe to abide by your rules...

Corporations aren't an establishment of religion. Though for some of you it seems like you want to live in the world of:

I love movies I've never heard of.

my company gives a paid holiday for good Friday, nobody complains. religion is only a viable reason for things that benefit you or disadvantage others. they can freely practice their religion without trampling other people's rights.

yeah but they aren't telling their employees they can't use the day after pill, they just don't want to pay for it, based on their moral objection to it.

but of course the plan with the pill doesn't actually cost them any more than a plan without it....

Lets not forget certain groups within Judaism, Catholicism and Islam do not believe in vaccinations. If SCOTUS rules in favor of the corporate interest on this matter, corporations ran by members of these sects of the big 3 could request to deny coverage of vaccinations for employees children, or hell some of them may not even hire women or "Gentiles".

What side of the coin will our forum champions of the 1st amendment rights for corporations be then?

Slippery Slopes y'all Slippery Slopes!