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The Supremes tackle birth control
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By Garuda.Chanti 2014-03-27 16:17:51
Valefor.Applebottoms said: »So, this was taken directly from their website:
Quote: At Hobby Lobby, we value our customers and employees and are committed to:
- Honoring the Lord in all we do by operating the company in a manner consistent with biblical principles.
- Offering our customers exceptional selection and value in the crafts and home decor market.
- Serving our employees and their families by establishing a work environment and company policies that build character, strengthen individuals and nurture families.
- Providing a return on the owner's investment, sharing the Lord's blessings with our employees, and investing in our community. One wonders if they practice Jubilee. If so I hope their creditors do too.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-03-27 16:18:31
Jubilee and the admonitions against usury always get conveniently forgotten by Christian businesses.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-03-27 16:19:48
See, it's interesting that some of our posters don't understand that this delusion that just because it doesn't effect them, can effect other men. Some men will buckle on their premature losses too, and do wonderful things like splatter their brains across a wall with a rifle at the kitchen table.
EDIT: The mother finished college, thankfully, and is remarried. Silver linings. They were also out of the house at the tim
Something similar was witnessed by my sister, when she was in high school at a house party. Boy blew his brains outside the house because Girl was pregnant and her family had it terminated and force her to never see the boy again. The real kicker was boy was Mormon and his funeral was essentially boycotted by the majority Mormon community in Mesa, AZ. Unfortunately for my sister she witnessed the event.
People are fragile and society is pretty rough sometimes.
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By Caitsith.Zahrah 2014-03-27 16:28:57
See, it's interesting that some of our posters don't understand that this delusion that just because it doesn't effect them, can effect other men. Some men will buckle on their premature losses too, and do wonderful things like splatter their brains across a wall with a rifle at the kitchen table.
EDIT: The mother finished college, thankfully, and is remarried. Silver linings. They were also out of the house at the tim
Something similar was witnessed by my sister, when she was in high school at a house party. Boy blew his brains outside the house because Girl was pregnant and her family had it terminated and force her to never see the boy again. The real kicker was boy was Mormon and his funeral was essentially boycotted by the majority Mormon community in Mesa, AZ. Unfortunately for my sister she witnessed the event.
People are fragile and society is pretty rough sometimes.
That is terrible. Having to actually see someone commit suicide.
There are psychological breaking points for both men and women. Denying that men aren't mutually inclusive in the ramifications of birth, abortion, and contraception is bewildering! These things are easily avoidable, given that methods of birth control (other than condoms) are made more available.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-03-27 16:41:19
given that methods of birth control (other than condoms) are made more available. Why "other than condoms"? It should be "in addition to condoms."
Not that I can remember the last time I had to pay for condoms, owing to the gay community having its head on straight (pun!) about this kind of thing, but stacking contraception by using both a hormonal treatment (with all its additional health benefits for a woman) and a barrier (with all its disease-prevention benefits for both sexes) seems the best option.
If anything, this is the one part of the whole sexism and health insurance debate that I actually agree with: if you want to provide birth control to women under insurance, provide condoms to men by a similar method. Those people who actually have to pay for rubbers should be aware of how costly the rotten things can get, especially when you break one just trying to pull it on.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-03-27 16:44:37
That still happens, you be surprised how many light bulbs need to be surgically removed for both men and women in a given year.
http://researchonmedical.com/2013/02/20-objects-found-stuck-in-a-rectum-in-an-er/
#20 is mind blowing.
posted to lighten the mood of the thread up.
By ScaevolaBahamut 2014-03-27 16:47:26
Jubilee and the admonitions against usury always get conveniently forgotten by Christian businesses.
Man, I'm like, to the left of Castro and even I get that the medieval ban on usury was designed to keep the poor poor.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-03-27 16:51:06
Jubilee and the admonitions against usury always get conveniently forgotten by Christian businesses.
Man, I'm like, to the left of Castro and even I get that the medieval ban on usury was designed to keep the poor poor.
Or was a diabolical plot by time traveling Nazi's in order to substantiate their disdain for wealthy European Jews. Cause after all, they weren't allowed into proper Christian medieval careers and the only other options were medicine, law, and banking.
Bam Godwin'd!!!
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By fonewear 2014-03-27 16:51:42
I've reached my limit of seeing objects in holes for the day but thanks.
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By Lakshmi.Zerowone 2014-03-27 16:55:39
I've reached my limit of seeing objects in holes for the day but thanks.
These aren't the prolapse photos you normally enjoy though. Just X-rays.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-03-27 17:04:36
I've reached my limit of seeing objects in holes for the day but thanks.
These aren't the prolapse photos you normally enjoy though. Just X-rays. My coworker's girlfriend is an PA at a local hospital in SA. She sent an X Ray of a guy with a cucumber stuck...well, you get the picture.
Thing was, a large part of the vine was still attached, along with a flower. The first 3 PAs had to be taken out of the room when they saw a yellow flower poking out. They couldn't stop laughing.
She sent my coworker the X Ray and the story, we couldn't stop laughing that day.
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By fonewear 2014-03-27 17:10:22
And that is why I wouldn't want to work in the medical field. lol
If I want to see deviant sexual things I'm sure I can find them.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-03-27 17:11:22
Vegetables are remarkably common in that sort of story. I was listening to a podcast of weird news stories a couple weeks ago and it mentioned a Chinese man trying to cure his constipation by shoving a squash of some kind up the backdoor. It was 8cm in diameter. If your anus is that loose, at that point I don't think constipation is going to be fixed by shoving more up there.
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Also,
"Another lawyer (what is wrong with lawyers?) from Georgia was reportedly showering with his cell phone, when he slipped and fell, getting the phone lodged firmly up his backside. It was removed surgically."
***. I can't believe someone could even type that nonsense up except to laugh at it.
Edit again:
Except for the two sex toys that clearly got pushed too hard (which I can't even understand but I guess I haven't ruined my rectum like these people), why the hell even use most of those objects? At least the Matchbox car was a Jackass stunt, but if I want to get off, I'm not ramming a piece of glass in me, not even those expensive Pyrex toys that are guaranteed safe.
By fonewear 2014-03-27 17:11:57
I'll never eat squash again !
By Jetackuu 2014-03-27 18:28:29
All I'm going to say (and I know that I've said this umpteen times now) is that there are non-contraceptive purposes for birth control.
Regulation of irregular/heavy menstruation. (Anemia falls in there!)
Endometriosis.
Ovarian cancer/cysts and uterine cancer.
/shakes head disapprovingly
thread should have ended there :x
I think alot of Female players who read this thread know this, and I'm sorry guys, but unless you ever tried to pee out a kidney stone down your weewee you have no idea how much it can hurt the first few times or hell your entire life, I remember my first 2 times where 6months apart and i couldn't crawl out of my own bed for the life of me so i had to skip school till it was over, even when you take birth control girls/woman who have heavy problems without tend to still have months where it hurts alot...(but god i remember it was a heavenly feeling when i started taking them, helped alot).
and hell why not make it free >_> my healthcare system pays mine back fully too and i'm sure there are other country's that have that system... . (sorry for typo's crappy internet and small phone.)
I've had 2 kidney stones...
By Jetackuu 2014-03-27 18:33:01
Abortion isn't murder, no matter how many times you say it Nausi.
Nobody is infringing upon the rights of those who run the corporation, seriously: nobody.
Stop trying to save your bad argument by trying to change the definition of "pro-life."
That's the thing about living in society, if you don't want to live in society, then by all means find an island somewhere and have at it. Jet, if you're going to be pro-choice, at least grow the balls to claim responsibility for what you want.
I have plenty of balls, but you have no place trying to tell anyone what the responsibility is of that.
Abortion still isn't murder.
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By Valefor.Applebottoms 2014-03-27 18:42:48
Those people who actually have to pay for rubbers should be aware of how costly the rotten things can get, especially when you break one just trying to pull it on. That's the reason why the boyfriend and I alternate paying for them.. they can be a bit finicky and the cost can add up. But the cost for those outweighs the cost of having a child, so it's worth it.
Hell, every month when I get my period both my boyfriend and I go "YAY! NO BABIES!" Then I immediately go back into pain for the first two days while he helps me cope with it.
Still worth it.
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2014-03-27 19:03:33
Another reason for birth control:
YouTube Video Placeholder
Feminist: I independent and powerful, I can do anything a man can do and better. Now force him to give me his money cause I'm so independent.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-03-27 19:07:24
How does insurance work ya'll?
By fonewear 2014-03-27 19:38:54
How does the internet work without tubes ?
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By Vudoku 2014-03-27 19:41:21
Glad I'm told what to think by liberals. It is nice not having to have an opinion. They are always told what to think, it is second nature to them.
They are amazed (and jealous) at the ability to think for oneself, but they were told not to like it, so they don't.
Sorry this so far back in the discussion, but I simply cannot ignore typical conservative deflection. Come on man try some original thought.
By fonewear 2014-03-27 19:51:46
Actually I want to know what is love... baby don't hurt me... no more.
Birth controls pills don't hurt me no more.
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By Bahamut.Zellc 2014-03-27 20:20:58
Another reason for birth control:
YouTube Video Placeholder
Feminist: I independent and powerful, I can do anything a man can do and better. Now force him to give me his money cause I'm so independent.
While they appear to be extremely volatile(it was hard for me to watch), it doesnt appear as though that was her point. It actually sounded like the opposite.
By fonewear 2014-03-27 20:23:54
Even if she were to make good points you can do it without being aggressive and rude.
I couldn't take someone serious that has that sort of attitude.
By Jetackuu 2014-03-27 20:37:03
I can't ascertain the full context of the situation as it's not easy to piece the whole thing together, looks rather one sided and from that point of view only it make her look like the aggressor, but it's unclear if it was that, or being overly defensive of her position, I'm not going to take a guess as to which, although a few side linked videos did send me on a nice stream down memory lane in some videos...
From what points I could muster, sounded like some decent points. As far as the other dude (not sure if it was that video or another one, same event) arguing with the old lady about rape, that was just awful to watch.
By Fumiku 2014-03-28 03:22:00
Another reason for birth control:
YouTube Video Placeholder
Feminist: I independent and powerful, I can do anything a man can do and better. Now force him to give me his money cause I'm so independent.
While they appear to be extremely volatile(it was hard for me to watch), it doesnt appear as though that was her point. It actually sounded like the opposite.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-03-28 06:52:14
Glad I'm told what to think by liberals. It is nice not having to have an opinion. They are always told what to think, it is second nature to them.
They are amazed (and jealous) at the ability to think for oneself, but they were told not to like it, so they don't.
Sorry this so far back in the discussion, but I simply cannot ignore typical conservative deflection. Come on man try some original thought. You must be new here.
If you have been here for a while, you would have seen that the typical liberal poster here are just parrots of the DNC.
Their words is just words, no thought behind it. When asked why they think of those things, they just deflect the question by personally attacking the questioner.
Don't believe me? Here you go
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-03-28 07:11:44
Semi-on topic
Oh yes, and this source is heavily liberal, so you can ignore the little jabs and "opinion pieces" and "poor me" commentary to actually get the real news of the story.
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By Odin.Jassik 2014-03-28 07:57:26
laws requiring hospital admission privileges are a backdoor route to outlawing abortions as the state can choose to halt funding to public hospitals or grant special appropriations depending on who they give admittance privileges to.
Court majority harshly critical of Obamacare contraception mandate - CNN
Quote: The court is reviewing provisions of the Affordable Care Act requiring for-profit employers of a certain size to offer insurance benefits for birth control and other reproductive health services without a co-pay.
At issue is whether certain companies can refuse to do so on the sincere claim it would violate their owners' long-established personal beliefs. The problem as I see it. like many religious beliefs this one is something demonstrably false. They believe the IUD and morning after pills are abortifacants. They are not. But it IS a sincere religious belief.
For balance....
Barbara Boxer: Why no Viagra complaints? - Politico
Quote: “I have never heard Hobby Lobby or any other corporation, I could be wrong, or any other boss complain that Viagra is covered in many insurance plans, practically all of them, or other kinds of things, you know, for men, which I won’t go into Like penis pumps?
Samantha Bee Finds Out Medicare Funds Penis Pumps - Huffington Post.
Quote: As NARAL president Ilyse Hogue explained to Bee during the segment, Medicare has spent $172 million on penis pumps over the last five years, and no one seems to have a problem with that.
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