States Acting Against Fed. Government!

This explains why I get the "I'm entitled feeling from you". The way I look at paying for Public schooling is, I went to school for 13 years so I am paying it back. If you look at it like your paying for everyone to go to school, your in the wrong mindset.

Relating education to the ACA is like relating auto ins. to it.

Let's not talk about a civil war because if we talk about it, it might happen.

or they could stop making it damn near illegal to discipline kids i say bring back the paddle!

Hey I like to be spanked... wait what are we talking about now ?

So no education is better than poor education?
How exactly is the quality of education the issue with the argument?
Isn't the quality of education primarily dictated by state decisions? Hell, aren't schools in Texas independent from municipalities?
What has caused a decline in the past 5 years?

people who think timeouts are discipline

I can see it now. (White principal paddles black kid, Black principle paddles white kid.) Would probly be better if parents taught there kids some respect, and teachers teach the subject they are schooled in.

yeah but parents don't even pay attention to their kids anymore "here's an ipad see you when you're 18"

or people could come up with more effective solutions for child discipline that aren't physical abuse, but hey.

So if I now say that I went to public school, and attended a public state school free of charge due to meeting volunteer and GPA requirements, that might make your statement a bit strange?

Look at what you just wrote:
Apply that to your earlier statement regarding healthcare.

i would gladly put belt or paddle to *** if being paid

And you call other people uninformed.............. and where did he mention texas?

See now if I want to get spanked it is expensive.

It may sounds like im kidding but in all seriousness Sponge Bob Square Pants is the problem. Im singling that out specifically but I mean in more general terms that free time is more predominately spent with mindless bull crap like that other than more productive things.

How can anyone allow children to watch mindless crap like that and expect anything more from them.

and the level of education as a whole in the U.S. public school system is beyond pathetic.

He lives in Texas.

Think your tricky huh? please tell me how paying for other peoples heathcare AND MY OWN is anything like paying back a public school debt.. I await your twisted reply.

First episode: May 1, 1999; so the timescale is a bit off.

Probably because they are busy watching other mindless crap. Rather than debating on forums, of course.

Please don't infer that I am saying that you should be mindless nubs in the ground.

Of course it is better to have poor education than no education. But you know what's even better than poor education? Good education. What's keeping us from having good education? This administration in their lack of responsibility in providing said education to the public.

Because the quality of education is important to society. You are inferring that all education is the same, and why should you pay for education if people are just going to die/drop out/not even try when 2 of those 3 issues are quality issues. Well, the third can be considered a quality issue if the cause of death is forced, not accidental.

Texas has to abide by federal standards. And no, they are not independent, at least not totally. There are revenue difference between schools, but the state usually picks up the slack if needed. There are also state standards that need to be followed also.

Lack of responsibility (both on the school and parents, but we can't control the parent's responsibility, only the school) and lack of proper funding. When you have money going to teacher's unions instead of teacher's salaries, that is a gross misappropriation of funds. When you have money going to football stadiums (yes, I will admit that Texas is the worst offender in this) instead of supplies and tools to teach students, that is a gross misappropriation of funds. It is bad on both sides of the aisle, the way money is being transferred to things that does not help with the education of our youth.

Plus, it doesn't help if they increase the size of the classroom instead of hiring more teachers to work more on the children and less on the curriculum.

Milamber and Kara, do you two still play?

I'm pretty sure we can all agree the public school system is ***, and highly OFF-TOPIC.. lol

No =/

We played ff14 for a bit, but quite xi awhile back. It is tempting to go back but not going to happen. I'm due in 18 days and I'm pretty sure we'll be busy :)

Relevant at hand:

The Federal Government had no Constitutionally mandated function of creating regulation for schools, however it was deemed as a need for not only society but to support a healthy nation to intervene in education.

We could go on for days arguing about how schools waste funds, from unions, to still using books instead of promoting open information, to silly lawsuits, and zero tolerance policies ruining good people (children), to getting into the side debate about school violence/bullying/shootings, etc etc etc.

But the point is, not many question the Government's role in the education system (and anyone can logically agree that it's a national issue, and as a nation we should have a minimum standard, to compete on the global scale), yet people can't see the logical correlation to the need for other functions: like healthcare and how it's a severe drain on society to leave it unchecked.

If you go to a hospital, you are paying for someone else's healthcare.
If you visit a doctor, you are paying for someone else's healthcare.
If you have insurance, you are paying for someone else's healthcare.

You are already paying for other people's healthcare costs in some form or another. Ensuring that a greater portion of the population is able to manage their own healthcare costs lessens these expenses.

grats, but play. play.

You'll need something to do while the baby is asleep, and trust me, they sleep a shitload for a good while.

People don't realize that the costs are so high because they are paying for others...

I'll drink to that.

Great idea.

Now lets figure out how to do that instead of forcing people to support an industry that isn't directly involved in healthcare outside of how much they are willing to pay for something.

You know, make healthcare affordable instead of forcing people to buy a product they don't need.

And it all comes together.