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By Altimaomega 2014-02-26 13:47:39
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http://conventionofstates.com/

http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/media-ignoring-nullification/

Kinda odd that the states are unprecedentedly standing up against such a wonderful president that only wants to help with his executive powers and pen.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-02-26 13:50:29
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Last time we had this sort of union, we had a Civil War.

Anyone up for Civil War part II: This Time with Nukes!

I heard it's good at the start, but it sucks at the end.
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By fonewear 2014-02-26 13:54:27
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Last time we had this sort of union, we had a Civil War.

Anyone up for Civil War part II: This Time with Nukes!

I heard it's good at the start, but it sucks at the end.

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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-02-26 13:55:30
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/sigh

I don't believe we had a civil war in the 60's* or the 70's*.

States have been upset with the Federal government several times before the civil war and after.


Edit: just to be clear *1960's, 1970's
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-02-26 13:57:15
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The people that claim to champion for the Constitution would do well to actually read the thing. They would sound less like this guy: Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-02-26 13:57:21
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Bahamut.Kara said: »
/sigh

I don't believe we had a civil war in the 60's or the 70's.

States have been upset with the Federal government several times before the civil war and after.
That's because only hippies were upset. And who care what they think?

Now that you piss off the working class, shits going down!
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By fonewear 2014-02-26 13:58:10
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Hippies can read ?
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-02-26 13:59:13
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Kara said: »
/sigh

I don't believe we had a civil war in the 60's or the 70's.

States have been upset with the Federal government several times before the civil war and after.
That's because only hippies were upset. And who care what they think?

Now that you piss off the working class, shits going down!

Civil Rights Movement
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-02-26 13:59:17
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That's an unproven claim, but I think they can. Only simple sentences though.

Throw anything with more than 5 letters and watch the hilarity ensue.
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By Fenrir.Atheryn 2014-02-26 13:59:19
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Anyone up for Civil War part II: This Time with Nukes!

Speaking of which, Jericho was a good show; shame it got canned, un-canned, and then re-canned with attitude.
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By Carbuncle.Skulloneix 2014-02-26 14:00:04
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Last time we had this sort of union, we had a Civil War.

Anyone up for Civil War part II: This Time with Nukes!

I heard it's good at the start, but it sucks at the end.
Not for the nukes or war, but the great country that we are is just too big to please everyone! I would not be opposed to two separate countries that are friendly towards each other, but why do that when we have 50 individual states that are capable of governing themselves already??
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-02-26 14:00:24
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Bahamut.Kara said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Kara said: »
/sigh

I don't believe we had a civil war in the 60's or the 70's.

States have been upset with the Federal government several times before the civil war and after.
That's because only hippies were upset. And who care what they think?

Now that you piss off the working class, shits going down!

Civil Rights Movement
Still didn't prove anything. The civil rights movement was hippies and a few working class v. the working class. Not really government v. people.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-02-26 14:01:41
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
The people that claim to champion for the Constitution would do well to actually read the thing. They would sound less like this guy: Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be
Yeah, lets all assume people who don't agree with you sound like this random crazy.

Got it!
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-02-26 14:02:23
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Still didn't prove anything. The civil rights movement was hippies and a few working class v. the working class. Not really government v. people.

I guess George Wallace was a hippy. So were the Southern states that discussed not allowing the federal government to intervene in desegregation. Brown vs. Board of Education
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By fonewear 2014-02-26 14:02:43
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Don't trust anyone over 30. Bra burning. Hairy armpits and so on.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2014-02-26 14:06:04
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
The people that claim to champion for the Constitution would do well to actually read the thing. They would sound less like this guy: Area Man Passionate Defender Of What He Imagines Constitution To Be
Yeah, lets all assume people who don't agree with you sound like this random crazy.

Got it!
If Scragg made a nickel off of every time you missed the point, he'd be able to buy himself another fancy car!
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-02-26 14:09:48
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Kara said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Bahamut.Kara said: »
/sigh

I don't believe we had a civil war in the 60's or the 70's.

States have been upset with the Federal government several times before the civil war and after.
That's because only hippies were upset. And who care what they think?

Now that you piss off the working class, shits going down!

Civil Rights Movement
Still didn't prove anything. The civil rights movement was hippies and a few working class v. the working class. Not really government v. people.

Oh FFS. You can't really be that stupid.
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By Shiva.Onorgul 2014-02-26 14:10:25
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Bahamut.Kara said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Still didn't prove anything. The civil rights movement was hippies and a few working class v. the working class. Not really government v. people.

I guess George Wallace was a hippy. So were the Southern states that discussed not allowing the federal government to intervene in desegregation. Brown vs. Board of Education
Gods and small fishes, don't engage the idiot. You think he's going to grasp the premise of the Civil Rights Movement when he thinks that slaves just have to pull up anchor and run away to freedom, riches, and loose women?
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-02-26 14:12:41
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Bahamut.Kara said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Still didn't prove anything. The civil rights movement was hippies and a few working class v. the working class. Not really government v. people.

I guess George Wallace was a hippy. So were the Southern states that discussed not allowing the federal government to intervene in desegregation. Brown vs. Board of Education
Um...George Wallace was for segregation, not against it...

If anything, that would put him in the other side of the "hippie and a few working class" of that little fight.

Point missed.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-02-26 14:14:25
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But yeah, take my point and completely turn it so you attempt to say something I didn't say, but only to fail miserably at it.

Good job guys!
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By Bahamut.Milamber 2014-02-26 14:14:47
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Shiva.Onorgul said: »
Bahamut.Kara said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Still didn't prove anything. The civil rights movement was hippies and a few working class v. the working class. Not really government v. people.

I guess George Wallace was a hippy. So were the Southern states that discussed not allowing the federal government to intervene in desegregation. Brown vs. Board of Education
Gods and small fishes, don't engage the idiot. You think he's going to grasp the premise of the Civil Rights Movement when he thinks that slaves just have to pull up anchor and run away to freedom, riches, and loose women?

Our empirical studies have showed that he doesn't seem to grasp the use of textbooks either. BRB, publishing!
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-02-26 14:16:07
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Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Um...George Wallace was for segregation, not against it...

If anything, that would put him in the other side of the "hippie and a few working class" of that little fight.

Point missed.
Yes, KN I can clearly see you have missed the point.

The states did not want the federal government to intervene. It was very much a states vs. federal government issue. It was, quite frankly, a complicated issue that caused a lot of problems and still didn't cause a civil war.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-02-26 14:16:26
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You guys are trying too hard.

But keep supporting each other with a failed premise. One day, it might seem true!
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By Altimaomega 2014-02-26 14:16:51
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Yea the civil rights movement and what we have going on now is totally the same thing... /looks for the sarcasm button.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-02-26 14:18:59
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Bahamut.Kara said: »
Asura.Kingnobody said: »
Um...George Wallace was for segregation, not against it...

If anything, that would put him in the other side of the "hippie and a few working class" of that little fight.

Point missed.
Yes, KN I can clearly see you have missed the point.

The states did not want the federal government to intervene. It was very much a states vs. federal government issue. It was, quite frankly, a complicated issue that caused a lot of problems and still didn't cause a civil war.
A few states didn't want the federal government to intervene. Not a majority, but a small minority.

Good attempt though.

Say, how many states sued the federal government in 2010 again? Wasn't it 26, you know, greater than half of the country? Lets see if you realize that little tidbit.
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2014-02-26 14:22:00
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Altimaomega said: »
http://conventionofstates.com/

http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/media-ignoring-nullification/

Kinda odd that the states are unprecedentedly standing up against such a wonderful president that only wants to help with his executive powers and pen.

Nullification movement has existed since the US Constitution was ratified, has never slowed down, and will never slow down. Nothing that is happening now is "unprecedented." You think State vs Federal is new? Just because you choose to notice something doesn't make it news, it just shows you have been out of touch your entire life.
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By Lakshmi.Flavin 2014-02-26 14:23:56
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I'd suggest any states making a real stand should stop taking in the billions in federal aid they get every year to really stick it to em.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-02-26 14:24:13
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Altimaomega said: »
Yea the civil rights movement and what we have going on now is totally the same thing... /looks for the sarcasm button.
Don't feel too bad.

This group of people think that Obama is a neocon.
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By Bahamut.Kara 2014-02-26 14:24:23
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Altimaomega said: »
Yea the civil rights movement and what we have going on now is totally the same thing... /looks for the sarcasm button.
Your words:
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Kinda odd that the states are unprecedentedly standing up against such a wonderful president that only wants to help with his executive powers and pen.

It's not unprecedented.

Your first site lists this
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The Federal Government is broken.
Washington D.C. will never voluntarily relinquish its power. Left unchecked, the government will continue to bankrupt this nation and destroy the liberty of the people. It is time for citizens and the States to act and we have the solution.

The US has had federal vs. state problems for decades. Really since the beginning of the US.
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2014-02-26 14:26:00
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But it hasn't been this bad since the start of the Civil War though.
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