States Acting Against Fed. Government!

This law was written and enforced in 3 months, it was to lower sematic cell counts so the dairy's could ship powdered milk oversea's. It put a huge amount of small dairy's out of business, because it forced them to spend massive amounts of money to upgrade facilities or sell out. With everyone selling out at the same time, prices on cattle dropped which in turn forced farmers to claim bankrupcy. Unless you had literally a million or two dollars laying around for a rainy day you was ***. Oh and the best part six months later they did away with the law because the mega-farms could not do it and was losing mass amounts of money.

Are you being not a ***? Yes, my cows had 100 acres of pasture land to graze.

From the dude that claims to be against Fascism you sure are making an argument for it, when it suits you. Unless I see you demanding the IRS strip liberal organizations of their tax exempt status that they have been abusing by your standard for decades, then you are a hypocrite or at least very dishonest.

100 acres and you don't farm it? You don't even not farm it?

Difference between dairy farming and dirt farming. Dirt farmers get days and winters off.

Not farmers get paid to sit on their butts just like every other "welfare bum".

P. S. I learned to drive on a John Deere and have milked cows.

I prefer Case tractor's, I named my son Kace. I still farm the 100 acres "crop farming" we call it around here. But 100 acres of crop farming is barley worth the effort.

Read what you wrote again. It may have said it was about cell counts but it was really about shaking smaller dairies out and maximizing profits for the large ones.

Tell me, who bought your livestock at fire sale prices when you dispersed your herd?

Jet the ULC scam is LEGAL. People do it a LOT.

Barley... nice typo. Where I live is dryland wheat and barley country. Barley will grow on 14' / year.

Never drove a Case only Deeres and Fords. Good job on the kid's name BTW.

I see you get my point, yea it was about shaking smaller dairy's out. Nobody saw it at the time because cell counts had been a hot button issue for mega and small farms for years. The herd's from probly all the smaller farmers just went to auction for slaughter because (at the time, i dunno if it's the same now) their was an over abundance of dairy cattle in the US. When looked at in retrospect it was most likely a two bird one stone thing. Not like it matter now VERY FEW people know it happened and even less care.

Corn, soybeans, and wheat. When I had dairy cows id plant
Sudex (which is pretty much corn without the ears, and can be cut multiple times depending on rain) with oats. The oats would get 6 foot tall, and it made great green chop.

Yes, it has been used before, the 21st amendment. Whatever you mean by used against the Federal Government, I have no idea.

They also have to propose a specific amendment for at least 38 states to vote yes on, not the generic "reduce powers of the executive branch federal government". That is if they even get the required 35 34 states to bring the issue up (bill) and pass it. After that I'm sure it will go through a seperate legal process of being appealed.

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So I was going to comment on this, seeing as I live in a state where farming has been hugely profitable but simultaneously has been hedging out all the recent college graduates (my university was founded on its agricultural program and refuses to abandon it) because of the massive costs involved for land and equipment, but you eventually followed up with:


Something that is really starting to bug me on this forum is the remarkable level of cognitive dissonance. You claim that farms are being taxed to death by all those filthy Democrats in Washington yet you're fully aware that you were dicked over by mega-farm lobbyists who no doubt courted the conservative ticket seeing as Republicans are far more likely to support the kind of monopolistic, anti-competitive, mega-size businesses that completely *** you over (although Democrats are certainly not above pocketing a large bribe for the same reasons, e.g., Clinton and Tyson Foods).

How is that even possible? You must know you're grabbing the wrong end of the stick but you insist that it is somehow the fault of all those socialist, small business, liberal scumbags who have historically fought to save the "family" farm.

Moreover, I can't seem to figure out where the argument fits into the states' rights debate that was apparently dead-on-arrival. Whether you agree with the real or claimed reasons behind the legislation, it falls very squarely under the interstate commerce mandate of Congress. I see some kind of spin in there about small government, but interstate commerce is one of the enumerated powers, so it is in no way a reflection of Congress overstepping its bounds.

not at all, I'd say the IRS should investigate any surge in any particular group, I don't care what the groups cause is.

I'll look into this later, and get back to you.

Well stated.

I'm left leaning, but in no way in agreement with Corporatism aka fascism.

Like this ***with the courts overturning the FCC ruling on net neutrality, the FCC was doing something decent for once.

It would help if the isp's have a monopoly for their service type in most of their respective areas, if you live here you have these options for consumer grade:

Cable: Comcast
DSL: Verizon
Satelite: Hughes Net

the only decent option is cable, and I know they just extorted a bunch of money from Netflix.

Oh I'm not doubting it, but to be honest I'd rather pay my societal dues.

Government is using mind control to make me buy stamps.

To attempt to make this clear... Obama's biggest mistake was promising to let people keep their policies if they had one and then going back on that. He eventually did reverse that again (in actuality he just said that he would not pursue any insurance carrier that continued to provide the substandard policies) but by this time many of them had been cancelled and carriers did not or claimed they could not reinstate them.

When the policies were cancelled the insurance carriers sent out a cancellation notice and also sent out notice that if the policy holder did not make changes themselves such as opting out, choosing another policy, etc. that they would be automatically reenrolled in a general policy that would meet the requirements of the ACA. People that had their policy cancelled are not considered in the ACA enrollment unless they go through one of the ACA exchanges. If you beleive that they are then you would be incorrect in thinking so. Those people would have just obtained another policy through thier current carrier or moved on to another on their own. You are not forced to enroll through the exchanges.

@ Jet That was Jassik. I did however support his situation as I've seen other examples of misinformation and unethical acts commited by insurance carriers.

Obama's biggest mistake was being born. His life has been an affront to Americans everywhere.

I was going to say his biggest mistake was dancing on Ellen.

Jests aside I was just speaking about his actions regarding the ACA.

It was the backup act after the Ellen crew informed him he couldn't do a drone strike on daytime television.

Ellen lost 3 members of her stage crew that day.

Ellen is she still a lesbian ?

democrats oppose the EIC?

depends on what the voters want that year

Don't let it die!

It's dead, let it go peacefully.

Never!

And that's the reason I have a DNR order!

And the reason why I made sure an axe was located in his back...

..wait, what are we talking about again?

Like I'd pay attention to that!