No Tips After Dinner For Gays!

That just means they are religious, doesn't mean anything about political party.

The last one that was stolen/recovered was on my college campus. The guy walked onto campus (not even a student) at 11am in broad daylight with a pair of bolt cutters and it took him about 5 minutes to work my lock before finally breaking it and getting away with my bike.

Don't know where the fk all the people on my campus were at, including school security, but it was caught on film; which helped catch the *** and get my bike back

The real hell of it is that my neighbors with whom I shared the fence had a party until the wee hours. As did my upstairs neighbors. Whoever did it had to be bold as brass... all to steal a mountain bike that was worth about $200 new.

Come to think of it, I'd expect the sort of cheapskate who stiffs someone for being butch to be the same kind of cognitive dissonance sufferer who goes to a lot of risk to steal something that'll sell for about $30 on the street. BRB, need to murder a mother of two in New Jersey.

I'm not bringing religion into this, nor did I say anything about political parties. It's a lot simpler: there is a name for the ideas expressed in the note that those people left for their waitress. It isn't "religious" and it isn't "Republican." It's "socially conservative" and I'm not sure why this is even being questioned lol

You know, in fairness, I've never actually run across a socially conservative person who wasn't an avowed member of a mainstream religion or Scientology. So Jirachi's telling little statement is extra telling, really.

Quoting all the political chatter i thought thats where you meant conservatisms definition to be a under the political party, yes i see where you mean using a different definition now.
Moral here: Dont quote stuff assuming words with more than 1 definition and assume it to be same one everyone else used.

The point is that (despite the rate of coincidence) these ideas are not universally constant among members of any religion or party. As such, we shouldn't be equating social conservatism with those affiliations. The only thing it equates to is itself, which is what we should call it.

Edit:
Um, I meant exactly what I posted; you seem to be the one making assumptions. Especially because none of the quotes I used mentioned parties either. :/

You're the customer. You're paying them either way.

He's making the point that employers are hoisting the obligation of pay onto the patrons, and he doesn't like that. I don't either. I still tip, and I still tip well, but I think it's another *** excuse for employers to shed responsibility.

There are 2 definitions to conservative, one meaning the republican party and one meaning about keeping our "Civil Liberties", At first conservative is used as the political party but as it goes down you quoted them as being Socially, then:

1. Radical Conservatives
People who want everyone on Earth to either conform to their ideals or die (and supposedly rot in Hell afterward). They are willing to use any means necessary to accomplish this task.
A group of radical conservatives burned down an abortion clinic and banned the sale of condoms countywide today.


Then this is where you said it was socially conservative:
1. social conservative
one who believes in principle in general government regulation of people's personal freedom, often as a result of their religious beliefs
Social conservatives tend to be against abortion, gay marriage, embryonic stem cell research, physician assisted suicide, gun control and affirmative action and for prayer in public schools, capital punishment and supporting Israel.

That is where i misunderstood your definition of conservative and where i assumed you meant the political party, because the "toeing conservative line" quote.
Therefore you were not straightforward mentioning the parties, but branches of the their beliefs.
So i admit i jumped to assumptions and figured conservative was targeting Republicans, while in your quotes you weren't.


And as for me being a social conservative, according to that definition, I'd say 50/50 on it, i can agree and disagree with 4 of the topics so, meh~

TLDR: I assumed things and they were wrong but i admitted to my wrongness and proved where my understandings went mislead.

Conservative isn't another word for Republican. That's a very binary way of thinking. One is a political philosophy and the other is a party.

First world religious nutjobs: Stiffing people on tips. How far they've fallen from the glory days of torching and lynching. What's next? Grooming a gay persons dog wrong for Jesus? Writing their disatisfaction with homosexuality on someone's coffee froth?

Proper term for many of these clowns are Christian Dominionists. The only thing they want to conserve is their narrow strip of Jesus handpicked from whatever suits them.

No Mr. Pink tipping quote ? I am disappointed.

Well right now its fighting tooth and nail to maintain workplace inequality.

Yes, since the philosophy's match the typical parties views the words have been linked together in every way/shape/form, except Philosophy and Party, they both are linked to Republicans they are both linked to Candidates they are both linked too pictures, buttons.
Just like liberal and Democrat.

They had conservative views.
And there are a Liberal amount of people off the main topic, including myself.

I think either way we can all agree here, they should have paid her, if she did a good job at service, if not then they should have used another excuse than to write that note to her.

Political alignment has nothing to do with tipping by the way. Both sides can be cheap ***.

Maybe it was just a set up by someone she knows just to get on the front page of the news.

With the average United States Hospitality Industry minimum wage laws regarding work per hour compensation, the average waitress (assumed to be roughly 67-75% of the wait staff community) receives a pay of roughly 2.85 an hour. Often times, in the establishments that pay the bare minimum, they have less than adequate standards in everything from service, to food, to cleanliness. These standards continue to drop as it becomes a problem from the top down, where "Management" will look at various ways to pinch pennies, rather than bring in the bucks.

In Canada, while our Minimum Wage laws are very different, (Alberta in particular has a universal minimum wage across all industries of 8.25 per hour, at last check), many places, particularly in Quebec, run double tipping procedures like tigerwoods has mentioned. There is a "Gratuity" charge on your bill, as well as the expectation to "tip" the server, simply for the fact they are serving you, when they are already being paid to work, and receive roughly 85% of the gratuity from the surcharge attached to the bill, while the other 15% is sent to the back of house staff. In other words, they are trying to be paid THREE times for the job they were barely able to do a single time.

In many other cultures, it is highly offensive to the employee, and the employer, to offer a monetary tip on top of payment for services rendered. To them, it says "Here is some additional money, because I don't believe you are being well looked after by your employer." While the customs are very different in the US, it basically says the same.

Personally, I do not tend to go out much for a few reasons. First reason, almost everywhere I go out to, has terrible service, terrible food, completely unkempt and dirty, or any combination of all 3. I can forgive poor service if the food is good, or poor food if the service is good, and tip relatively well on my own terms.

Before anyone gets on my ***, I've spent over 9 years in the hospitality industry doing different tasks, and hired for different positions. As with tigerwoods, I also believe that leaving a gratuity is meant to be a reward for those who have, and continue to go above and beyond to make my experience an exceptional one.

As for the comment about those "who can not afford to tip, should just stay home", everyone has the right to enjoy themselves with a treat every now and then, so while they may not be able to tip every time they go out, having an exceptional experience without that burden, can actually increase profitability, as they spread the word to others, about the experience they had, and those parties are definitely more likely to tip, and tip well, than not.

Keep in mind, it is better etiquette to tip well, or not to tip at all, than to tip very poorly.

My family goes out to dinner, as well as some of my sister's friends who join us, (usually there's 5-8 of us), so our bill can rise fairly quickly, even before alcoholic beverages. There have been times we had horrible food and service, food we never ordered, never received our food for close to an hour, etc., and the server demanded a tip, and received one: "Do a better job, or find another one".

Also that isn't the first or last time people won't tip this woman. She should get used to it being a waitress or get another job.

The thing that gets me is waiters/waitresses kissing your *** trying to get a tip. I rather them just do their job and not talk then be overly nice.


Then again maybe I'm too cynical to think people are nice without working for tips.

You don't reward someone for doing they job they were hired to do, you reward them for doing their job well. Excelling in aspects that make it worth coming back to.

Seeing it as a part of going out to a restaurant, you may as well tip the people working at fast food places, because they are also restaurants, just a different type.

There are quite a few reasons not to tip, and not just one.

It's quite similar to playing in a soccer tournament, where everyone wins a participation trophy, and weakens their resolve to do their best. People then start dropping personal standards, and service becomes lax, poor, and ostensibly bad.

I agree I see a lot of lazy waitresses that just assume you are going to tip. And I sometimes just write a zero where it says tip to piss them off.

On the flip side I tip well for good service way above the 15% I normally tip 30 or even 40%.

I'm a misanthrope with barely any tolerance for phattic communication, but I'd far rather suffer the diabetes-causing saccharine flood of a server who needs to be tipped well over the surly disinterest I get on rare occasions. I rarely find someone who can straddle perfectly the line between over-enthusiastic and completely-checked-out (even though you'd think it's a fairly wide margin to be in), so I'd rather have the enthusiastic one and let her know to take it down a notch.

I've never had a male server go nuts like that with me. Then again, as I am either eating alone or with my exclusively male friends, I'm sure there's a bit of jockeying to get a woman sent to my table. Damned heterosexual bias.