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 Cerberus.Pleebo
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-05-08 16:23:39
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Groups can't outright ignore fight mechanics for many of these NMs. In fact, use of the mechanics leads to easier and more efficient wins. Just because the goal is still to deal lots of damage in the shortest window possible doesn't make it a total zerg.
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By Lakshmi.Feint 2013-05-08 16:35:19
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which fights are you referring to.
 
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-05-08 16:59:24
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'Fight mechanics' may be too generous of a word, actually. Probably better described as fight gimmicks. But the craklaw, chapuli, crab, and adamantoise are some examples.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-08 17:15:26
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Lakshmi.Feint said: »
I actually don't see the jobs you listed under low man content when it comes to NNI, Salvage or meebles often. Abyssea yeah.

Maybe I spoke a little too soon but it does seem at times that certain jobs just aren't popular in endgame content.

I think SE did a decent job in trying to include multiple jobs in VW, but the content itself was kind of meh (WS spam and getting procs wasn't exactly difficult). With delve, it just seems like a zergfest again ><.

People are picky about what they bring to meebles
I don't even

WHY

(this also goes for salvage but that's beside the point)
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By Lakshmi.Feint 2013-05-08 18:20:26
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I'm aware that other jobs do work. It is just that select jobs are just preferred.

I don't know how many times I've been asked to come Sam.
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By Lakshmi.Saevel 2013-05-08 19:02:56
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Horse ***!

It's

Support Crew
WHM
BRD
COR

Buffed DDs
WAR
DRK
SAM
MNK (Forgot to put them in there originally)

Holding Team
PLD

Misc Guys
THF (TH ***)
SCH/BLM (Stun ***)

Those are the A list jobs that get brought to everything. The B list alternatives / special teams are.

If no other DD can be found
DRG
RNG

If special fight mechanics require them, chosen on a per-fight basis.
SMN
BLM
RDM (Dia III)

The "not no but hell no" guys are
NIN (Forgot to add earlier)
BST
DNC
PUP
RUN
GEO
BLU (if your really bad *** and the leader knows your bad *** you ~might~ be put in the tank party, maybe, if they have a free spot and nothing else to put there).
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-08 19:03:45
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You're an idiot
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-08 19:08:29
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No but seriously it's like you didn't read my post at all
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By Asura.Calatilla 2013-05-08 19:09:12
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No love for MNK or NIN?
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By Ragnarok.Hotkarl 2013-05-08 19:20:52
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Geo is awesome in delve. I would never say "hell no"
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-08 19:23:04
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Saevel just doesn't actually play with good groups which explains why his posts are generally worse than even pchan + pchan2's
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By Lye 2013-05-08 19:26:33
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Lakshmi.Saevel said: »

Horse ***!

It's

Support Crew
WHM
BRD
COR

Buffed DDs
WAR
DRK
SAM

Holding Team
PLD

Misc Guys
THF (TH ***)
SCH/BLM (Stun ***)

Those are the A list jobs that get brought to everything. The B list alternatives / special teams are.

If no other DD can be found
DRG
RNG

If special fight mechanics require them, chosen on a per-fight basis.
SMN
BLM
RDM (Dia III)

The "not no but hell no" guys are
BST
DNC
PUP
RUN
GEO
BLU (if your really bad *** and the leader knows your bad *** you ~might~ be put in the tank party, maybe, if they have a free spot and nothing else to put there).

2 Jobs are missing. Are they so bad we don't even say their names?
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2013-05-08 19:29:42
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MNK is going to curbstomp SAM/WAR/DRK for most things, and Ryu is surprisingly still a top contender
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By Ragnarok.Presidentobama 2013-05-08 19:32:05
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Ragnarok.Hotkarl said: »
Geo is awesome in delve. I would never say "hell no"

This is a joke, right?
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By Tickmeoff 2013-05-08 19:33:24
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
(PUP) has seen a significant increase in power in the most recent update and is probably functional in higher content


Is the Alternator really that amazing?
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By Lakshmi.Feint 2013-05-08 19:37:13
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Leviathan.Kaparu said: »
MNK is going to curbstomp SAM/WAR/DRK for most things, and Ryu is surprisingly still a top contender

Has that ever happened?

I remember when boost boost boost was the ***.
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By Phoenix.Urteil 2013-05-08 19:39:41
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I'd take a geomancer* 100% of the time if I could, MNK is great defensively, strong damage output and at many times a safer choice.


A good ranger party is the ***, backed up by a Corsair and a Bard who just pummel NM's from long distance.
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By Ragnarok.Hotkarl 2013-05-08 19:40:16
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Ragnarok.Presidentobama said: »
Ragnarok.Hotkarl said: »
Geo is awesome in delve. I would never say "hell no"

This is a joke, right?
Amazing job, sorry you haven't realized that yet.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-08 19:40:23
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Ragnarok.Presidentobama said: »
Ragnarok.Hotkarl said: »
Geo is awesome in delve. I would never say "hell no"

This is a joke, right?

No
All (or most anyway) who are successfully farming NMs in Delve are using GEO
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By Ragnarok.Presidentobama 2013-05-08 19:44:23
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My Shell has never asked. I do have a maxed geo, I should try it out. But as we run so often I cant see how their stationary pet would be useful.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-08 19:45:58
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Maybe you should stop running NMs around

(notice I specifically said farming NMs)
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By GodBae 2013-05-08 19:49:29
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game isn't fair, i just want some items like everyone else
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-08 19:57:55
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GodBae said: »
game isn't fair, i just want some items like everyone else

it's ok maybe a real linkshell will invite you to leech off their bead farming
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By Lye 2013-05-08 20:07:13
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Fenrir.Sylow said: »
GodBae said: »
game isn't fair, i just want some items like everyone else

it's ok maybe a real linkshell will invite you to leech off their bead farming

Not one of those "fake" linkshells.
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By Solrain 2013-05-08 20:08:10
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Asura.Kaitaru said: »
Someone needs to photoshop the date in Ed's pocketwatch from FMA.

Quick and messy but here ya go.
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-08 20:09:15
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Lye said: »
Fenrir.Sylow said: »
GodBae said: »
game isn't fair, i just want some items like everyone else

it's ok maybe a real linkshell will invite you to leech off their bead farming

Not one of those "fake" linkshells.

give gimps a chance

iwagami said so
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2013-05-08 20:12:56
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Leviathan.Kaparu said: »
MNK is going to curbstomp SAM/WAR/DRK for most things, and Ryu is surprisingly still a top contender

Followup for the sake of not misleading anyone: while I'm having no trouble maintaining a hefty lead over Rigor-users in my linkshell, I see little to no reason to play any DD job that isn't MNK(unless you literally cannot melee something safely on any job, in which case RNG)

Finally got around to bringing up MNK up to speed, and I have no intention of going back to Ryunohige so long as DRG's damage is only moderately ahead and the likelihood of dying is immensely higher
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By Leviathan.Kaparu 2013-05-08 20:18:22
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That's just our perspective, though. And to be fair, people who need this type of strategical nuance explained to them were likely just locked out of any real Delve progress with this update, so eh
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By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-05-08 20:23:03
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MNK is great but you'll probably want at least one alternate form of DD for the Delve NMs that warrant SC/MB
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