[Dev] Delve Updates, Holding Times & Bosses

Well, for zergs, like old school Kirin at 75. If the fight needs to be done asap or everyone dies sort of thing. If the fight goes for 5 minutes, I don't really consider it a zerg anymore, just a typical fight except with 2hr'd songs and DDs as tanks.

And after the rotation you get put back in the starting party, so if rolls wear, you're there to pop them back up.

why do ppl get butthurt that they change the NMs outside? You ppl complain that SE want help new player,noobs,newbies, w/e u want call them but u cant defeat the NMs in time? Hmm....

I ran with PuG and lost and won, like VW.....u never know what u get.

We did delve-ls run yesterday and I voted to rotate at least ppl who dont have a job for delve in @low % of HP.

Imo u cannot help ppl to get better when u do not help them to get access to better stuff......simple

Also means more clients for IGE and other RMT sites. Where else are nubs going to rack up the millions they're going to need in a timely fashion?

mabe they will lt groups trade all 5 beads to remove the nms atm you can only remove 3

Prett
Not complaining that there's difficulty downing the NMs, at all. I'm actually glad that these are gear-checks, so that more of the player-base can finally do stuff like Salvage.v2.
The issue that many players and I are having, is the fact that we sign-in and there are only 4-5 Delve ready members logged on.
This forces us to shout for randoms and play the lottery.

Obvious solution is join a bigger LS, I know.

LOL SE actually thinks Elite players will go out of their way to "help" non geared or newer players do these Delve runs? what a joke and this is how it will be in a few months from now: Elite players with all the delve weapons completed will be trolling pj bashing pple and shouting that they will run gimps for X amount of gil. Controlling RMT? you just made it 10x worse guys and as for "balance" as far as jobs are concerned? If you have heavy DD (geared excellently), BRD, COR or WHM then you May be able to get groups, if the elite deem you worthy, as for the other jobs, you don't get a choice to play if you want anything done. SIMPLE way to take most of the enjoyment out of the game for any but hardcore players who have 24/7 to invest in it. I have loved this game for 5yrs, but the last 12months it has gone downhill rapidly and I just can support the choices being made by the devs lately sorry

Pretty much. Time for me to find a new LS, I guess.

Though really, even if you have to fill slots by shouting, having the base group of people who already know how to communicate and work together is probably all you really need.

Actually from past experience with some rather decent linkshells on multiple servers, no matter how good, no matter how actually better than their DDs you are, you might not be accepted as one. It's a very touchy subject, much like PLD, people have huge difficulties to see when they are outplayed.

So it's even worse in the end.

I'm just annoyed that they release content based on LS events which means following a strict schedule which my work doesn't allow for. Back to 2010 and not enjoying new content for me, Salvage II and Emptynamis are fine though.

I don't play nice in big LSs, so I'm boned if that's the case. Oh well.

See, there is a trick to that, get into a LS with a majority of the people being *** as big as you are. Works great for me.

i hate elites who never let me join fights. how can i get clears more easy

That's why it doesn't work lol, I call people on their ***.

one time i asked to join a party and they didn't even respond to me

Doesn't work.

Most people in endgame are *** but they suck. What happens when an *** that doesn't suck call one that does?

"No u."

Never again.

If only SE Hadn't made not one but TWO jobs based around casting a few party buffs that are superb and then sitting on their ***.. Let's see, will people play them or min-max them into struggling with an awkward and clunky UI/party system for crazy zerging content meant to be taken down a certain way, or not.. People always the path of least resistance on MMOs, devs, come on. Gear up and carefully consider strategies and jobs, or snag every RME in sight and brdcorzerg it. Hmmmm.

You forgot about Dre Geomancer!

SAM WAR DRK onry

Welcome to FFXI. If you don't play the jobs we want, you won't see endgame content

OK SO:

Read this turbo rant.

All I have to say is this.

GET ON WITH IT AND LEARN TO WIN INSTEAD OF MOAN. :)

Edit: Elite players wont help no body without gil. You got to join a link-shell and be at the whim of your potential leader.

I think its time for me to give up this game soon. :)

O wow, ravenous? that was a good flick.

"Nowadays everybody wanna talk like they got something to say
But nothing comes out when they move their lips
Just a bunch of gibberish"

Most people on this subject matter.

This is where SE *** up and other MMOs do a better job.

How many of the 22 jobs are regularly used in end-game content?

Alliance content

WHM
RDM (JPs and high-tier shells)
BRD
SMN
BLM
MNK
SAM
WAR
DRK
DRG (with Mythic so probably doesn't count)
COR
GEO * (new front)
PLD
SCH
RNG

Used mostly in low-man content ***
BST
DNC
PUP **
NIN
BLU

Currently little to no use
RUN

Treasure Hunter
THF

* job is actually quite powerful for alliance content
** job has seen a significant increase in power in the most recent update and is probably functional in higher content

***low man content is mostly irrelevant right now but that will probably change

RUN is a nice solo job :< with the appropriate sub/gear.

Ugh, why are you guys using all of this *bleck* Strategy? YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO ZERG EVERYTHING TO DEATH! COME ON GUYS!

I get that once in awhile. Karma bites them in the *** when the situation reverses itself.

With the relative ease of leveling and gearing now, there's little reason to not have an endgame relevant job.

nobody let me leech my job without pay gils though. how can i level easy

I actually don't see the jobs you listed under low man content when it comes to NNI, Salvage or meebles often. Abyssea yeah.

Maybe I spoke a little too soon but it does seem at times that certain jobs just aren't popular in endgame content.

I think SE did a decent job in trying to include multiple jobs in VW, but the content itself was kind of meh (WS spam and getting procs wasn't exactly difficult). With delve, it just seems like a zergfest again ><.