Cyber-Bullying: Has It Gone Too Far?
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Cyber-Bullying: Has it gone too far?
Besides people how many walls have you punched in your life wishing it was the bully? Lets be honest...
Leviathan.Syagin said: » What does interest have to do w/ knowing how to defend? that's why you cgonna always get your *** beat thinking like that.. declaw a lion and put him in the wild and take a look at the out come. whats the differance w/ a person learning how to defend?? come on lets not be silly... I believe that it's this line of thinking that makes bullying much more of a severe thing. When you tell someone to just get over it or defend themselves, you're not only belittling the victim as much as the bully, but you're effectively telling the bully that it's okay to bully their victim by proxy. Let's not stop the people causing the bullying, let's just tell the victims to stop being so weak. That'll work, right? Unfortunately, we've all seen time and time again that it doesn't. Also, I think we as people should realize that something easy for one of us to accomplish isn't as easy for someone else. Just because -you- can deal with something easily doesn't mean the next person can do it as easily, ya know? That doesn't mean they're weak, or you're strong. It just means you're different.
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Lol everyone spilling their hearts out in this thread is hilarious. If someone online is bullying you ignore them does someones online opinion really effect you?... Lets be real. Real life bully sock em up. Bigger then you? Get a weapon, simple.
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And THAT is how school shootings happen.
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Leviathan.Syagin said: » I follow you and I get it but truthfully people bother those that are vulnerable that's the god honest truth. They don't both those that they know will look them in the eye and not back down. But that's not the point. Some people function by belittling others plain and simple, it isn't always about targetability. People bully minorities or aesthetics because of a variety of factors. Quetzalcoatl.Deeezy said: » Lol everyone spilling their hearts out in this thread is hilarious. If someone online is bullying you ignore them does someones online opinion really effect you?... Lets be real. Real life bully sock em up. Bigger then you? Get a weapon, simple. No, violence is never the answer. It is better to make Youtube videos of yourself. YouTube Video Placeholder Lakshmi.Watusa said: » No, violence is never the answer. It is better to make Youtube videos of yourself. YouTube Video Placeholder LEAVE BRITNEY ALONE!!! But unless you think that it's likely that society will be able to get rid of bullying completely, not encouraging and helping people to handle themselves better is a wasted opportunity and leaves people more vulnerable to this kind of thing throughout their lives. No, not everyone is capable of handling everything on their own - everyone needs help now and then - but everyone can be better at it.
Preventing bullying can happen from many different angles, and we'd all benefit most from preventing it from all angles. Take any of the tragic examples we've seen recently - absolutely, if the behavior never occurred, we'd have a much happier outcome. Additionally, though, many other people had the chance to act differently in a difference making (life saving) way, to include the victims. I really don't want to sound like I'm placing any blame on any of the victims - I just mean to say that anyone and everyone can do better.
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Fenrir.Terminus said: » But unless you think that it's likely that society will be able to get rid of bullying completely, not encouraging and helping people to handle themselves better is a wasted opportunity and leaves people more vulnerable to this kind of thing throughout their lives. No, not everyone is capable of handling everything on their own - everyone needs help now and then - but everyone can be better at it. Preventing bullying can happen from many different angles, and we'd all benefit most from preventing it from all angles. Take any of the tragic examples we've seen recently - absolutely, if the behavior never occurred, we'd have a much happier outcome. Additionally, though, many other people had the chance to act differently in a difference making (life saving) way, to include the victims. I really don't want to sound like I'm placing any blame on any of the victims - I just mean to say that anyone and everyone can do better. Wow, Nah. How could anyone ever get the impression that you're an ***?
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Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh said: » NO SOME PEOPLE CAN'T DO BETTER! SOME PEOPLE CAN'T GET OVER IT! SOME PEOPLE ARE SAD!  Let's take this slightly extreme, but very realistic example. A
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: » Wow, Nah. How could anyone ever get the impression that you're an ***?
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Lakshmi.Greggles said: » Leviathan.Syagin said: » What does interest have to do w/ knowing how to defend? that's why you cgonna always get your *** beat thinking like that.. declaw a lion and put him in the wild and take a look at the out come. whats the differance w/ a person learning how to defend?? come on lets not be silly... I believe that it's this line of thinking that makes bullying much more of a severe thing. When you tell someone to just get over it or defend themselves, you're not only belittling the victim as much as the bully, but you're effectively telling the bully that it's okay to bully their victim by proxy. Let's not stop the people causing the bullying, let's just tell the victims to stop being so weak. That'll work, right? Unfortunately, we've all seen time and time again that it doesn't. Also, I think we as people should realize that something easy for one of us to accomplish isn't as easy for someone else. Just because -you- can deal with something easily doesn't mean the next person can do it as easily, ya know? That doesn't mean they're weak, or you're strong. It just means you're different. ^This x100000000000000000000000000000 God bless my father for forcing me to go to the class bully's house with a rock in my hand, ring the door bell and deck him in front of his family knocking him out cold.
Sure it was violent. But two things were accomplished that day 1. The bully was traumatized and ended up being a normal kid. 2. My dad broke my psychological fear of kids bigger than me and showed me they can be anyone's *** if you have a big enough rock. Don't be bullied and dont teach your kids to accept it. Give them a rock and make sure they knock this ***out of that bully. Otherwise they will grow up being someone's *** and never break free of the psychological hold they have. EDIT: Ignoring it perpetuates it. does it take rocket science to figure that out? Teachers are underpaid, overworked, and don't really give a damn about the kids by the time bullying becomes an issue. they want everyone to play by the rules as long as its convenient and practical. Its not that they think ignoring it will make it go away, its that suffering in silence is less of a hassle for them and makes it NOT their problem.
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: » Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh said: » NO SOME PEOPLE CAN'T DO BETTER! SOME PEOPLE CAN'T GET OVER IT! SOME PEOPLE ARE SAD! Let's take this slightly extreme, but very realistic example. A cross-dressing boy is bullied at school and at home. Explain to me: how in such a case someone can "get over that type of bullying" w/o any traumatic experience? I don't think that cross-dressing will ever be accepted by most main-stream society, but there are social groups and circles where it is the norm and where it is commonly accepted and supported. I know there is a pretty lively gay community here in my town at least. I wouldn't call that a realistic example. But if you insist it is, then you've got me. I don't know how you would cope with that. I pretty much see people being *** as a part of growing up. Not everyone will always be nice to you, not everyone will like you. That's life, deal with it. People call you names? Tell them to *** off and move on.
I do know that it's not always that easy, but just acting like the victim for the rest of your life isn't doing any good for you either. That being said i really never witnessed people taking it to a physical level of bullying in my schooltime. People would start fights from time to time, and if it was more serious ***, the school would take action on it. A group of people or a bully beating someone up? They'd get their *** kicked so hard and so fast <.< Then again stuff like racism/homophobia were generally not tolerated in the schools i went to If more people would teach their children how to be decent people and not to treat others like ***, this world would be a happier place i guess. Since that's not going to happen any time soon, i think some people seriously need to grow a tougher skin And this vibe of 'an eye for an eye' in this thread is really creeping me out btw >.>
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Looks like this thread descended into trolling. Might as well close.
Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh said: » Is this a real question? I mean no ***you're going to be bullied, you should expect it. I don't think that cross-dressing will ever be accepted by most main-stream society, but there are social groups and circles where it is the norm and where it is commonly accepted and supported. I know there is a pretty lively gay community here in my town at least. I wouldn't call that a realistic example. But if you insist it is, then you've got me. I don't know how you would cope with that. Yes it's a real question, and it actually happens more often than not. I see it happening a lot more often in youth now. Umm I think it's not quite fair to say "you should expect it." Because for anyone, not just this example, they are being who they are. One shouldn't expect abuse for being who they are. If you watch the movie, which I highly suggest, it covers several layers of abuse/bullying including racism/homophobia/trans-discrimination/poverty. Odin.Headstrong said: » I pretty much see people being *** as a part of growing up. Not everyone will always be nice to you, not everyone will like you. That's life, deal with it. People call you names? Tell them to *** off and move on. I do know that it's not always that easy, but just acting like the victim for the rest of your life isn't doing any good for you either. That being said i really never witnessed people taking it to a physical level of bullying in my schooltime. People would start fights from time to time, and if it was more serious ***, the school would take action on it. A group of people or a bully beating someone up? They'd get their *** kicked so hard and so fast <.< Then again stuff like racism/homophobia were generally not tolerated in the schools i went to If more people would teach their children how to be decent people and not to treat others like ***, this world would be a happier place i guess. Since that's not going to happen any time soon, i think some people seriously need to grow a tougher skin And this vibe of 'an eye for an eye' in this thread is really creeping me out btw >.> "The world aint all sunshines and rainbows." 1. People who standby and allow bullies to bully are as guilty, or worse in my opinion, as the actual bully. Why? There could be something fundamentally wrong with the bully. He/she might have "issues" mentally and be prone to violence. they might come from a home where all they've known is domination and bullying. But what about the rest of society that doesn't share said bully's background and "issues"? Watching and doing nothing is just as bad. If you're in a position to stop a bully's behavior, then you are obliged to. Even if you're NOT the one being bullied. Now if you're uncomfortable with taking action and actually doing some good for the world, then get the fek out of the way and stfu - because your "eye for an eye" speech does nothing but give a bully more space to maneuver because he/she sure as hell probably doesn't give others the same consideration. EDIT: You think a bully is going to suddenly one day wake up and think "wut have I been doing?" without some ramifications and intervention? You wanna do the bully a favor? bring their *** back down to earth. teach them to feel compassion by making them experience the torment they put others through. Humble a *** and make em feel pain so they never want that same pain inflicted on others. Or keep them ignorant of it and see just how far they go.
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Bahamut.Baconwrap said: » Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh said: » Is this a real question? I mean no ***you're going to be bullied, you should expect it. I don't think that cross-dressing will ever be accepted by most main-stream society, but there are social groups and circles where it is the norm and where it is commonly accepted and supported. I know there is a pretty lively gay community here in my town at least. I wouldn't call that a realistic example. But if you insist it is, then you've got me. I don't know how you would cope with that. Yes it's a real question, and it actually happens more often than not. I see it happening a lot more often in youth now. Umm I think it's not quite fair to say "you should expect it." Because for anyone, not just this example, they are being who they are. One shouldn't expect abuse for being who they are. If you watch the movie, which I highly suggest, it covers several layers of abuse/bullying including racism/homophobia/trans-discrimination/poverty. At least not down here. I'm still backreading, but this has crossed my mind a few times when I've read these articles...Is it because technology encourages a stagnant life-style that people are unable to deal with aggression (on one end) or the lack of self-esteem via not channeling a hobby into self-affirmation (on the other)? Regardless, everyone has a shitty time at some point in their adolescence.
Breath in... Art, ballet, drill team, track, and student clubs. Breath Out... Throwing a discreet elbow into another gal's ribs in soccer, spiking the volleyball into a gal's face, and (I would not be surprised if this is banned now.) Flags Out Fridays! It's time for some Ring of Fire after mat drills! I can just imagine the people talking about "suck it up and be a manly man man" living in a hunter-gatherer society 10,000 years ago getting ready to settle down and create the first civilization. I think the conversation would go something like this one-act play:
A: Kill people bad for society. Make rule and punishment for stop killing. B: Man always kill. Why try to stop? Just get better at rock bashing and spear throwing. No one kill you.
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Leviathan.Kincard said: » I can just imagine the people talking about "suck it up and be a manly man man" living in a hunter-gatherer society 10,000 years ago getting ready to settle down and create the first civilization. I think the conversation would go something like this one-act play: A: Kill people bad for society. Make rule and punishment for stop killing. B: Man always kill. Why try to stop? Just get better at rock bashing and spear throwing. No one kill you. At least they had balls. Leviathan.Kincard said: » I can just imagine the people talking about "suck it up and be a manly man man" living in a hunter-gatherer society 10,000 years ago getting ready to settle down and create the first civilization. I think the conversation would go something like this one-act play: A: Kill people bad for society. Make rule and punishment for stop killing. B: Man always kill. Why try to stop? Just get better at rock bashing and spear throwing. No one kill you. Blazed1979 said: » Odin.Headstrong said: » I pretty much see people being *** as a part of growing up. Not everyone will always be nice to you, not everyone will like you. That's life, deal with it. People call you names? Tell them to *** off and move on. I do know that it's not always that easy, but just acting like the victim for the rest of your life isn't doing any good for you either. That being said i really never witnessed people taking it to a physical level of bullying in my schooltime. People would start fights from time to time, and if it was more serious ***, the school would take action on it. A group of people or a bully beating someone up? They'd get their *** kicked so hard and so fast <.< Then again stuff like racism/homophobia were generally not tolerated in the schools i went to If more people would teach their children how to be decent people and not to treat others like ***, this world would be a happier place i guess. Since that's not going to happen any time soon, i think some people seriously need to grow a tougher skin And this vibe of 'an eye for an eye' in this thread is really creeping me out btw >.> "The world aint all sunshines and rainbows." 1. People who standby and allow bullies to bully are as guilty, or worse in my opinion, as the actual bully. Why? There could be something fundamentally wrong with the bully. He/she might have "issues" mentally and be prone to violence. they might come from a home where all they've known is domination and bullying. But what about the rest of society that doesn't share said bully's background and "issues"? Watching and doing nothing is just as bad. If you're in a position to stop a bully's behavior, then you are obliged to. Even if you're NOT the one being bullied. Now if you're uncomfortable with taking action and actually doing some good for the world, then get the fek out of the way and stfu - because your "eye for an eye" speech does nothing but give a bully more space to maneuver because he/she sure as hell probably doesn't give others the same consideration. EDIT: You think a bully is going to suddenly one day wake up and think "wut have I been doing?" without some ramifications and intervention? You wanna do the bully a favor? bring their *** back down to earth. teach them to feel compassion by making them experience the torment they put others through. Humble a *** and make em feel pain so they never want that same pain inflicted on others. Or keep them ignorant of it and see just how far they go. Your 'eye for an eye' ***does nothing in the end. It just makes the whole cycle complete. And a lot of people actually look back on the shitty things they've done when they were younger and feel ashamed. I don't think a beating makes anyone realize oh hey maybe i should become a better person lol
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Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh said: » I'm really sorry that I can't quite sympathize with it, I've just never seen it at a young age. I have seen it a few times now at an older age, but I have never seen it in school of all places. At least not down here. On a side note. N. Dallas High School doesn’t want you to know if trans student won homecoming vote I'm sure if it's happening in Dallas, and DFW isn't the most LGBT welcoming area in the nation. It's more common than you think. Bahamut.Baconwrap said: » Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh said: » I'm really sorry that I can't quite sympathize with it, I've just never seen it at a young age. I have seen it a few times now at an older age, but I have never seen it in school of all places. At least not down here. On a side note. N. Dallas High School doesn’t want you to know if trans student won homecoming vote I'm sure if it's happening in Dallas, and DFW isn't the most LGBT welcoming area in the nation. It's more common than you think. LGBT kids got teased a bit in school, but none of them ever got beat up or stabbed or something. They had their friend groups just like everyone else had theirs. People didn't get bullied in my school for that. Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh said: » I'm sure it's happened before, but I wouldn't say one incident means it's common. I personally don't know of any transgender people that were in any of my schools. LGBT kids got teased a bit in school, but none of them ever got beat up or stabbed or something. They had their friend groups just like everyone else had theirs. People didn't get bullied in my school for that. Doesn't matter if it's a chubby girl who get's called a porker and goes on to develop anorexia. Or a gay guy who hangs himself because he gets outed on Facebook. |
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