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By Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh 2013-04-14 09:37:12
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Bahamut.Genevie said: »
HOW does he sound like a bully.Your criticism isn't in the least bit constructive. 'I'm not picking on you, but'..............
How does he not? It's pretty glaringly obvious that he uses his size to intimidate others. Whether it's a bully or not, he's still doing exactly what he claims to hate.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-14 09:37:23
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I don't feel like talking about it here. But it changed the person I am, I have a lot of issues because of it and therefore it affects me today.
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By Bahamut.Genevie 2013-04-14 09:37:47
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It's not always a 'choice' to stay affected.Some people are better at dealing with things than others.Some can move on and some can't.It's what makes us individuals and it depends on the extent of the bullying.
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By Phoenix.Degs 2013-04-14 09:38:06
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Its good that you can move on from stuff like that... some people cannot. For some that incident had affected their self esteem, and subsequently their life as they grew up.
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By Odin.Minefield 2013-04-14 09:38:07
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Mental scars run a lot deeper than physical, most of the time. And I don't think *** is a good representation of said-people.

Not all humans are created equal.
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By Bahamut.Genevie 2013-04-14 09:40:16
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Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh said: »
Bahamut.Genevie said: »
HOW does he sound like a bully.Your criticism isn't in the least bit constructive. 'I'm not picking on you, but'..............
How does he not? It's pretty glaringly obvious that he uses his size to intimidate others. Whether it's a bully or not, he's still doing exactly what he claims to hate.
I'm curious.Did you actually read what he wrote and comprehend it?He mentions nothing about intimidating anyone hes imply said he 'helps'those who have been or are being bullied.If hes a huge guy, he's a huge guy.He cant shrink down in size.If someone feels intimidated it's not his fault lol.
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By Phoenix.Degs 2013-04-14 09:40:33
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Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh said: »
Bahamut.Genevie said: »
HOW does he sound like a bully.Your criticism isn't in the least bit constructive. 'I'm not picking on you, but'..............
How does he not? It's pretty glaringly obvious that he uses his size to intimidate others. Whether it's a bully or not, he's still doing exactly what he claims to hate.
Intimidation to protect another person from harm is not being a bully, its courage
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By Phoenix.Degs 2013-04-14 09:42:17
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Bahamut.Genevie said: »
Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh said: »
Bahamut.Genevie said: »
HOW does he sound like a bully.Your criticism isn't in the least bit constructive. 'I'm not picking on you, but'..............
How does he not? It's pretty glaringly obvious that he uses his size to intimidate others. Whether it's a bully or not, he's still doing exactly what he claims to hate.
I'm curious.Did you actually read what he wrote and comprehend it?He mentions nothing about intimidating anyone hes imply said he 'helps'those who have been or are being bullied.If hes a huge guy, he's a huge guy.He cant shrink down in size.If someone feels intimidated it's not his fault lol.
It doesnt matter the size of a person... You can be huge and not be able to fight, or you can be small and be a scrapper... it doesnt matter. what does matter is having the courage to stick up for yourself and another when they are in need.
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By Bahamut.Genevie 2013-04-14 09:43:13
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Exactly Degs! Hit the nail on the head there mate.
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By Phoenix.Degs 2013-04-14 09:43:49
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Bahamut.Genevie said: »
Exactly Degs! Hit the nail on the head there mate.
Thanks!
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By Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh 2013-04-14 09:43:52
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I don't feel like talking about it here. But it changed the person I am, I have a lot of issues because of it and therefore it affects me today.
Well I'm sorry to hear that, but you obviously are doing just fine. You have internet and a computer to post on. You have enough money to afford playing a video game. You are obviously pretty decently educated because you can type properly.

You get what I'm saying? There's a lot worse things that could have happened. At least that's how I look at it.

Bahamut.Genevie said: »
It's not always a 'choice' to stay affected.Some people are better at dealing with things than others.Some can move on and some can't.It's what makes us individuals and it depends on the extent of the bullying.
I think some people haven't seen what a "bad life" is and that is why things like this affect them for the rest of their life.

I'm sure their are more extreme cases, but I highly doubt that they are the majority.

Odin.Minefield said: »
Mental scars run a lot deeper than physical, most of the time. And I don't think *** is a good representation of said-people.

Not all humans are created equal.
I'll go ahead and stop you right there, because I have a couple of family members that are homosexual and quite a few friends and none of them refer to themselves as "***".

So please put your little feelings away and stop pretending that I just insulted a group as a whole instead of using a word that is commonly used as an insult.

You know what I meant, don't turn it into a hate crime.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-14 09:45:32
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If I break a leg, sure there's someone somewhere who broke both, but does that mean I should be happy I have a broken leg?
I really hate this kind of superficial thinking.

There might be someone who's had it worse, but that doesn't make me fine.
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By Bahamut.Genevie 2013-04-14 09:46:45
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I'm not going to respond to any more of your posts Nahhhhhhhhh.I think you have many issues you never got over, and this is your forum for venting it.You have been quite argumentitive and seem to be dismissing anyone's reasons for continuing to suffer, because you think they should have got over it.
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By Phoenix.Degs 2013-04-14 09:47:56
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Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
I don't feel like talking about it here. But it changed the person I am, I have a lot of issues because of it and therefore it affects me today.
Well I'm sorry to hear that, but you obviously are doing just fine. You have internet and a computer to post on. You have enough money to afford playing a video game. You are obviously pretty decently educated because you can type properly.

You get what I'm saying? There's a lot worse things that could have happened. At least that's how I look at it.

Bahamut.Genevie said: »
It's not always a 'choice' to stay affected.Some people are better at dealing with things than others.Some can move on and some can't.It's what makes us individuals and it depends on the extent of the bullying.
I think some people haven't seen what a "bad life" is and that is why things like this affect them for the rest of their life.

I'm sure their are more extreme cases, but I highly doubt that they are the majority.

Odin.Minefield said: »
Mental scars run a lot deeper than physical, most of the time. And I don't think *** is a good representation of said-people.

Not all humans are created equal.
I'll go ahead and stop you right there, because I have a couple of family members that are homosexual and quite a few friends and none of them refer to themselves as "***".

So please put your little feelings away and stop pretending that I just insulted a group as a whole instead of using a word that is commonly used as an insult.

You know what I meant, don't turn it into a hate crime.
Number one.. being able to type on a computer and having a job or money does not mean you are not mentally affected by something in your past..... secondly you cannot simply generalize a "bad life".. each person is going to be affected in a different way. third... no one said you are doing a hate crime... but there are better words you could have used
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By Odin.Minefield 2013-04-14 09:48:44
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I was speaking in-general, for the term "***" used to represent some people, calm down there buddy. I could care less if you have friends that are homosexual or not, next time just refer to those bullies as bullies.
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By Phoenix.Degs 2013-04-14 09:49:01
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I'm not going to respond to any more of your posts Nahhhhhhhhh.I think you have many issues you never got over, and this is your forum for venting it.You have been quite argumentitive and seem to be dismissing anyone's reasons for continuing to suffer, because you think they should have got over it.
I really have to agree with you here...
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2013-04-14 09:49:40
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Being a fairly tall and large person myself, quite a bit of people are intimidated at first glance - I don't carry myself in any intimidating fashion, i'm just big. I get this vibe from Tealsic as well, since that's who you're referring to.
I was eventually my high school's bouncer - if there was a fight across the street, people told me about it. If i showed up, nothing happened. Bullying in the hallways seemed to stop when i was around or travelling through them. Again, i never once carried myself in an intimidating fashion, but it was the only advantage i had at school, and kept much of the bullying i saw to a minimum.
Some guy came to my school's area, threatening some guy i absolutely hated, with a very sharp, very real sword. So i him sit down and talk to me. While at first it pleased me to see this guy who bullied me back in junior high finally get what it's like, I honestly had to talk this guy out of it, and if he didn't, i let him know he'd be going through me.
We don't use our size to intidimate, but it's certainly a helpful tool when we are there to stand up for someone else. Bullies think twice about messing with someone when they know that they won't come away without bruises or worse, whether we intentionally imply it, or keep a close eye on things. What we do, is we let them know we won't tolerate it.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Tealsic 2013-04-14 09:52:33
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I had to go to the gym, and work my arse off to stop the bullying. Now I spend most my time trying to help others from the bullying. Not many people will continue to run their mouth at the little guys when someone much much bigger stands in the way. I hate this cyber bully sh**. Life isn't FFXI, and your computer isn't an Ochain.
This post made me cringe. You sound like you're a bigger douche than you seem to realize.

-You talk about going to the gym and how you stand in for people all the time now.
-You imply that people that you are stopping are always smaller than you.
-You imply again that someone that is talking to you on a computer is somehow always physically inferior to you.

Sounds to me like you are the bully or at the very least a bit delusional. I'm not picking on you, but really man you need to look at how you're speaking because you are just like the people you are talking about.[/quote]

I can see where you can make that out of what I said, so please allow me to put them in a different perspective?

-I wen't to the gym to lose weight, and get more fit to stop most of my bullying.

-I didn't really understand the part about me thinking everyone I stand up too is smaller. Did you mean standing up FOR? If that is the case I just believe everyone needs a little help when it is needed.
-I was simply implying that they weren't invincible. Sorry, I didn't think Aegis would fit in well there.
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By Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh 2013-04-14 09:52:53
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
If I break a leg, sure there's someone somewhere who broke both, but does that mean I should be happy I have a broken leg?
I really hate this kind of superficial thinking.

There might be someone who's had it worse, but that doesn't make me fine.
You shouldn't be happy about having a broken leg, you should be happy about having one that isn't broken.

This is your problem. You aren't seeing the good things in your life, only the negatives. I'm sure there's been a lot of good times for you and I really don't think you're all that bad of a person.

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I'm not going to respond to any more of your posts Nahhhhhhhhh.I think you have many issues you never got over, and this is your forum for venting it.You have been quite argumentitive and seem to be dismissing anyone's reasons for continuing to suffer, because you think they should have got over it.
Lol, right so they should dwell on it until they commit suicide?

Phoenix.Degs said: »
Number one.. being able to type on a computer and having a job or money does not mean you are not mentally affected by something in your past..... secondly you cannot simply generalize a "bad life".. each person is going to be affected in a different way. third... no one said you are doing a hate crime... but there are better words you could have used
1) That's not what I meant.
2) You can when it comes to thinking on the bright side.
3) Don't kid yourself, I know where that leads and I am sorry that I use the word loosely. I don't relate it to homosexuals and therefore don't understand why someone would be offended. My apologies.
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I myself like you Bloodrose am a tall individual. Im 6'4 250lbs. But i still got teased in middle school because of my last name... and probably because i shot up like a rocket before anyone else did... Did it bother me that people poked fun at me ... maybe a little, but i turned it around, and joked back at them, and alot of the time, thats how you can make friends... Guys have that kind of banter ... I know that it doesnt work on everyone, but it can.
 
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By Bahamut.Genevie 2013-04-14 09:55:24
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-14 09:55:30
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Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh said: »
This is your problem. You aren't seeing the good things in your life, only the negatives.
I'm glad you found the Nirvana, I haven't.
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I had my shoes stolen from me when I was a Freshman in HS. I was riding my bike through a development and a group of kids were hanging around this park where i was about to pass... I knew a couple of them from school, but wasnt friends with them... well this one kid comes up to me and says to give him my shoes, while another kid, close to 18 said do it or im going to go get my gun from my house... needless to say i did it.

when I got back home, i told my parents what happened and they called the police. we took the kids to court and they got in some deep ***. after that they never bothered me again... if they saw me they said hi and kept on going....
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By Bismarck.Bloodrose 2013-04-14 10:01:52
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Well in our current age and use of language, "***" is used as a slang term to more commonly insult a specific group of people, not refer to themselves.
Individuals HAVE to look at what's happening around them, and to them, in order to take stock of the positive and negatives, and they are weighted differently for each person.
I have had quite a few goood experiences in my life during my scholastic years which made surviving some of the more extreme cases of bullying much easier. That said, when you are a victim of daily, constant, extreme amounts and extreme bullying, including physical assaults, threats, defamation of character, and so on, especially in the information age, where it's literally impossible to run away from, you can't escape. Should you be happy that you stil have one good leg to stand on? Sure. But you're still gonna be pissed off someone broke the other, and depressed as hell, atleast for a while, that you lost some mobility. There are also the problems that come associated with a broken leg, even after it's been healed. Nerve and Tissue Damage - since we're going with a broken leg analogy, i'm going to continue with it. The exterior, and much of the interior has healed, but something's still not 100%. You won't notice it at first, but it's there, and it slowly makes itself more apparent with time.
Ever hear the phrase that "There are some things that time cannot erase"? Well, it's true. Especially in the extremes that people have been going to with bullying.
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By Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh 2013-04-14 10:02:30
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
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This is your problem. You aren't seeing the good things in your life, only the negatives.
I'm glad you found the Nirvana, I haven't.
You're going to have a hard time with the rest of your life. Not because of your bullies, but because of your attitude.

You're not a bad person, get over it. Nothing they said was true. Nothing they did to you was your fault. It was a kid that didn't have something they needed and therefore tried to make themselves feel better by making you feel worse.

Don't you have goals or something?
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I almost feel sometimes, that if two kids are in class, and the teacher knows they have issues with each other... I would almost put them together when group projects were to be done, or if you had to do a lab with a partner. especially if you had to do stuff outside of school too... It might almost get the kids to get along because if they didnt, their grades would be affected
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By Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh 2013-04-14 10:06:03
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Bismarck.Bloodrose said: »
Well in our current age and use of language, "***" is used as a slang term to more commonly insult a specific group of people, not refer to themselves.
Individuals HAVE to look at what's happening around them, and to them, in order to take stock of the positive and negatives, and they are weighted differently for each person.
I have had quite a few goood experiences in my life during my scholastic years which made surviving some of the more extreme cases of bullying much easier. That said, when you are a victim of daily, constant, extreme amounts and extreme bullying, including physical assaults, threats, defamation of character, and so on, especially in the information age, where it's literally impossible to run away from, you can't escape. Should you be happy that you stil have one good leg to stand on? Sure. But you're still gonna be pissed off someone broke the other, and depressed as hell, atleast for a while, that you lost some mobility. There are also the problems that come associated with a broken leg, even after it's been healed. Nerve and Tissue Damage - since we're going with a broken leg analogy, i'm going to continue with it. The exterior, and much of the interior has healed, but something's still not 100%. You won't notice it at first, but it's there, and it slowly makes itself more apparent with time.
Ever hear the phrase that "There are some things that time cannot erase"? Well, it's true. Especially in the extremes that people have been going to with bullying.
You are talking to me like I don't know how it feels.

I do. I just had/have bigger concerns in my life. Like I said, I understand now that most of that unwarranted anger towards someone they didn't know (me) was due to issues that they themselves had.
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By Phoenix.Degs 2013-04-14 10:06:58
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Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh said: »
Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Bismarck.Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh said: »
This is your problem. You aren't seeing the good things in your life, only the negatives.
I'm glad you found the Nirvana, I haven't.
You're going to have a hard time with the rest of your life. Not because of your bullies, but because of your attitude.

You're not a bad person, get over it. Nothing they said was true. Nothing they did to you was your fault. It was a kid that didn't have something they needed and therefore tried to make themselves feel better by making you feel worse.

Don't you have goals or something?
Could almost ask you the same question... They way you are talking to her, is very conceded.... You are putting her down and being very argumentative. You could almost say you are being a bully.
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