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By Blazed1979 2013-04-11 12:01:53
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this is actually what I personally use for Reso - but like I said, I only use RAG during MS on WAR and when I'm on DRK its usually for the benefits that Apoc brings.
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-04-11 12:02:38
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itchi508 said: »
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I want a screenshot from the 7k exen your friend do on adl.

I want a screen shot of anyone beside MS war doing consistence 7k dmg outside abys.
Lol you ever done ADL?

consistently is the key word, yes well geared and buffed dd's will hit a 7k once or twice a run, that's not constancy.

i did see a few 5-6k stacked mercy strokes prior to the 1hand update, I'm sure 7k is mathematically possible, but its a once in a lifetime number.

adl is fairly squishy at this point in the game
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By Asura.Echandra 2013-04-11 12:11:33
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This thread should just be changed to why you should 5/5 resolution.
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By Asura.Ccl 2013-04-11 12:14:42
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Odin.Jassik said: »
5-6k stacked mercy strokes

He said exenterator! and pre update!
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-04-11 12:18:42
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what's going on in this thread guys

did someone mention something about apocalypse
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-11 12:28:23
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Do you even read? We're getting monthly updates.
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By Blazed1979 2013-04-11 12:29:42
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Leviathan.Kincard said: »
what's going on in this thread guys

did someone mention something about apocalypse

no one is ever going to mention farsha, twash, nagi, kannagi, almace in the same league as apoc- ever.
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By Ragnarok.Agerknux 2013-04-11 12:31:10
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So guys

Apocalypse vs Ragnarok
 
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By Blazed1979 2013-04-11 12:32:12
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Ragnarok.Agerknux said: »
So guys

Apocalypse vs Ragnarok
Redemption wins
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-11 12:33:27
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Blazed1979 said: »
Ragnarok.Agerknux said: »
So guys

Apocalypse vs Ragnarok
Redemption wins
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By Cerberus.Conagh 2013-04-11 12:35:14
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itchi508 said: »
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I want a screenshot from the 7k exen your friend do on adl.

I want a screen shot of anyone beside MS war doing consistence 7k dmg outside abys.
Lol you ever done ADL?

Double Minuet, (soul voiced) 11 on Chaos + W.e 2nd roll (I prefer fighter's ~) and the DRK and WAR would have close to 2k attack on ws ~

On an attack starved WS with huge STR modifiers I could envision a 7k ws, as I see 4k consistently in normal zones without buffs.

IE athomik doing 4k as DRG in Reive.

a 7k Externator on thief however....

New Reive Polearm
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By Shiva.Taruzhul 2013-04-11 12:44:11
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What a waste of an update. Where are the merits/AF for GEO and RUN already?
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-11 12:46:34
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OMG!! THEY USED TO GIVE US ONE UPDATE EVERY 3 MONTHS NOW THEY DO IT ONCE A MONTH THIS IS HORRIBLE I QUIT TANAKACHAKA GAME IS DYIING LATIFAH RULEZ
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By Asura.Ina 2013-04-11 12:46:39
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Those would come in a major update I'd think, this is just a minor one.
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By Cerberus.Elistriell 2013-04-11 12:49:36
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Shiva.Taruzhul said: »
What a waste of an update. Where are the merits/AF for GEO and RUN already?

They did say in the update preview that there would be a "host" of job updates. AF1-3 and merits could very well be some of them.

Edit: They said bevy, not host. My mistake.
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By Ragnarok.Taereon 2013-04-11 12:56:33
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Scars of Adoulin came out a lot faster than anyone anticipated.
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By Gimp 2013-04-11 13:03:35
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Blazed1979 said: »
Ragnarok.Agerknux said: »
So guys

Apocalypse vs Ragnarok
Redemption wins
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If you're going to use that argument you might as well quit the job and use a different weapon entirely such as Armageddon

Depends on the mood of course as this is generally better for most situations

Pretty good driving/road trip music, doesn't wear on the ears if you decide to repeat it for awhile
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By Odin.Jassik 2013-04-11 13:12:11
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Asura.Ccl said: »
Odin.Jassik said: »
5-6k stacked mercy strokes

He said exenterator! and pre update!

oh I'm aware of what he said, lol.
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By Ophannus 2013-04-11 13:23:22
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Resolution is not THAT great of a WS on paper. Compare Resolution to Stardiver, they're virtually the same, except Resolution has an Attack penalty. It's the jobs's JAs that use Resolution which make it powerful. When you stack Reso with minuets/chaos roll+ Souleater/Mighty Strikes/Restraint, that's what makes it do 5-6k.

Reso has a 3.6 ftp and -15% attack penalty
Stardiver is 3.0 ftp and no attack penalty.

Polearms have better DMG rating than GS too which should be a factor.


reso does 3-6k, stardiver does 1.8-3k. Its due to the buffs the jobs that use reso receive that make it boss, the WS is actually pretty meh.
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By Heimdel 2013-04-11 13:25:32
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Asura.Ina said: »
Asura.Rekin said: »
Sylph.Jrpg said: »
Asura.Ina said: »
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They had talked about making Stage1 of every WS 65% then increase 5% with further levels. So people could merit more then 3 WS for jobs they use.
I remember this as well but it won't really matter. For any job you are serious about playing you will still want 5/5.

Edit: I should elaborate and say any job where the merit WS is relevant to you.

This basically, unless they let us have more merits to use overall (which is what I really want). Would it be game-breaking for us to have four or five 5/5 merited weapon skills?
SE has some sort of hardon for denying players so they'll never increase cap. instead they'll make it so that the non-min/maxers can play with the other skills.
I think the idea is by limiting us the make us define a couple main jobs instead of letting us play all 22 at full strength. I guess it's the trade off for letting us level to 99 in a day or 2.

Personally I think they should make abby require lev 60 to enter and tombs of valor be level specific to what page you can flag. For instance a level 10-30 person being ably flag for level 80 mobs... Help bring back xp partys and people learning the jobs and getting skills.
By volkom 2013-04-11 13:26:05
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Ophannus said: »
Resolution is not THAT great of a WS on paper. Compare Resolution to Stardiver, they're virtually the same, except Resolution has an Attack penalty. It's the jobs's JAs that use Resolution which make it powerful. When you stack Reso with minuets/chaos roll+ Souleater/Mighty Strikes/Restraint, that's what makes it do 5-6k.

Reso has a 3.6 ftp and -15% attack penalty
Stardiver is 3.0 ftp and no attack penalty.

Polearms have better DMG rating than GS too which should be a factor.


reso does 3-6k, stardiver does 1.8-3k. Its due to the buffs the jobs that use reso receive that make it boss, the WS is actually pretty meh.
you forgot to add eye candy if a mithra is performing the ws
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-04-11 13:27:30
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Ophannus said: »
Resolution is not THAT great of a WS on paper. Compare Resolution to Stardiver, they're virtually the same, except Resolution has an Attack penalty. It's the jobs's JAs that use Resolution which make it powerful. When you stack Reso with minuets/chaos roll+ Souleater/Mighty Strikes/Restraint, that's what makes it do 5-6k.

Reso has a 3.6 ftp and -15% attack penalty
Stardiver is 3.0 ftp and no attack penalty.

Polearms have better DMG rating than GS too which should be a factor.


reso does 3-6k, stardiver does 1.8-3k. Its due to the buffs the jobs that use reso receive that make it boss, the WS is actually pretty meh.
And Ruinator is technically better than both of them in terms of stats. Only problem is that it is attached to a 1handed weapon.
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By Ophannus 2013-04-11 13:32:13
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Well the reason why I said Reso is a 'meh' ws is because people are seemingly fearful that a Reso nerf is coming soon when in reality, it's already a very lackluster WS, it's just the buffs and stacked JAs that make it ridiculous.

Hell if DRG had half the JAs that DRK or WAR had, Stardiver would do as much too since we have the same WS gear as those jobs(we need less ATT than they do because Star doesnt have the -attack penalty, but we just lack Souleater/Retraint/Mighty Strikes
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By Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai 2013-04-11 13:43:38
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this thread has too many of FFXIAH's notorious retards
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By volkom 2013-04-11 14:13:59
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Ophannus said: »
Well the reason why I said Reso is a 'meh' ws is because people are seemingly fearful that a Reso nerf is coming soon when in reality, it's already a very lackluster WS, it's just the buffs and stacked JAs that make it ridiculous.

Hell if DRG had half the JAs that DRK or WAR had, Stardiver would do as much too since we have the same WS gear as those jobs(we need less ATT than they do because Star doesnt have the -attack penalty, but we just lack Souleater/Retraint/Mighty Strikes

but doesn't drg get jumps which does some decent instant damage along with gaining tp from those abilities which results in performing multiple weaponskills back2back in quick succession ?? or does the damage from the wyvern's attacks and stuff along with ws/auto attacks/abilities from the drg itself pales in comparison ?
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By Blazed1979 2013-04-11 14:15:42
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By Asura.Ina 2013-04-11 14:18:59
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Quetzalcoatl.Kenrusai said: »
this thread has too many of FFXIAH's notorious retards
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By Ophannus 2013-04-11 14:22:49
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but doesn't drg get jumps which does some decent instant damage along with gaining tp from those abilities which results in performing multiple weaponskills back2back in quick succession ?? or does the damage from the wyvern's attacks and stuff along with ws/auto attacks/abilities from the drg itself pales in comparison ?


On fodder yes, in legion etc no. wyvern is dead 90% of the time which means gimped jump damage/tp return. drg auto attack isnt 'bad' but we lack native JA haste i.e LR/Hasso natively. Our WS damage cant be enhanced with JAs so they do lackluster damage ~1800-2400. We can do them more frequenlty with jumps but it takes 2-3 of our WS to match a souleater or mighty strikes resolution.
WAR/SAM get bererk+Hasso, DRK/SAM gets hasso+LR, SAM/WAR gets hasso+berserk, but DRG has to choose between EITHER hasso OR berserk, we can't get both like WARs, SAMs and DRKs can. The wyvern damage, assuming its alive isnt much in legion. Wyvern hits for 70-90 on fodder with 350ish breaths but 50-60 in legion with 10-20 dmg breaths.
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