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April 29, 2013 Version Update
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By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-04-29 19:47:04
People are upset that the old content will all be pointless if the new content has better gear. Sure it might be fun, but if you have no chance of getting gear that improves you or your friend's chars then it becomes boring much quicker. By introducing a new event that drops gear for every slot superior to the old gear, they've basically obsoleted thousands of hours of playable content. This means they've forced themselves into a content race: they need to create new ***faster than the current endgame players defeat it. With their 4 man development team, this won't happen.
The intelligent people aren't upset about their weapons becoming comparatively less awesome, they're upset that SE just made a move with a high potential to outright kill the game.
(There are crybabies who are upset their shitty 85 emps became even shittier 85 emps in comparison, but nobody cares about them.)
By nyheen 2013-04-29 19:51:41
Quetzalcoatl.Avengers said: »says the person with no REM.....
solo/duo Verethragna Kannagi(85)and solo farm the relic coins for Mandau. didn trade it in yet since i knew once SoA was coming out something else was going to end up replacing relic. and even if they happen to update R/E/M iam sure it gonna be from Trials with some broken over the top quest trade Umbral Marrow 250.so ya ill just pass on that
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By Asura.Chrik 2013-04-29 19:53:02
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »People are upset that the old content will all be pointless if the new content has better gear. Sure it might be fun, but if you have no chance of getting gear that improves you or your friend's chars then it becomes boring much quicker. By introducing a new event that drops gear for every slot superior to the old gear, they've basically obsoleted thousands of hours of playable content. This means they've forced themselves into a content race: they need to create new ***faster than the current endgame players defeat it. With their 4 man development team, this won't happen.
The intelligent people aren't upset about their weapons becoming comparatively less awesome, they're upset that SE just made a move with a high potential to outright kill the game.
(There are crybabies who are upset their shitty 85 emps became even shittier 85 emps in comparison, but nobody cares about them.)
And thar ;D
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By Cerberus.Detzu 2013-04-29 19:58:36
Quetzalcoatl.Avengers said: »says the person with no REM.....
solo/duo Verethragna Kannagi(85)and solo farm the relic coins for Mandau. didn trade it in yet since i knew once SoA was coming out something else was going to end up replacing relic. and even if they happen to update R/E/M iam sure it gonna be from Trials with some broken over the top quest trade Umbral Marrow 250.so ya ill just pass on that
NO NO and NO!
SE SAID NO MORE TRIALS & YOU NEED THE BASE 99 NOT THE AFTERGLOW!
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By Leviathan.Kincard 2013-04-29 20:03:39
reminder that this is what the new ultimate gear looks like
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By Fenrir.Camiie 2013-04-29 20:10:11
My god... they have Pinocchio forearms ><
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By Sylph.Oraen 2013-04-29 20:14:39
Leviathan.Kincard said: »reminder that this is what the new ultimate gear looks like

For the first time since playing, I no longer want the best gear.
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By Seraph.Koroma 2013-04-29 20:25:59
the body looks alright on female chars
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By Lakshmi.Greggles 2013-04-29 20:39:12
After thinking about it all day...I'm wondering if we're all looking at it the wrong way. The truth is, our current gear isn't useless until we get the fear that replaces it. It's not like the damage or stats go to zero upon the introduction of new gear. They said they'll buff RME(assuming obly the 99s). Like I said earlier, this will probably end up being SEs way of saying get the 99 or get something else. Besides, I feel like having a level 90 or 95 being a top weapon is a little silly(coming from a person who has farmed a few relics and emps).
Hoping to God the RME buffs will be on this level though, or even greater.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-04-29 20:43:53
After thinking about it all day...I'm wondering if we're all looking at it the wrong way. The truth is, our current gear isn't useless until we get the fear that replaces it. It's not like the damage or stats go to zero upon the introduction of new gear. They said they'll buff RME(assuming obly the 99s). Like I said earlier, this will probably end up being SEs way of saying get the 99 or get something else. Besides, I feel like having a level 90 or 95 being a top weapon is a little silly(coming from a person who has farmed a few relics and emps).
Hoping to God the RME buffs will be on this level though, or even greater.
You forgot the part about the new weapons screwing over BLM and Pet jobs.
Shiva.Tedril
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By Shiva.Tedril 2013-04-29 20:47:18
How come new stuff isn't on the ah yet?
Edit: ffxiah.com that is
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By Lakshmi.Greggles 2013-04-29 20:48:49
After thinking about it all day...I'm wondering if we're all looking at it the wrong way. The truth is, our current gear isn't useless until we get the fear that replaces it. It's not like the damage or stats go to zero upon the introduction of new gear. They said they'll buff RME(assuming obly the 99s). Like I said earlier, this will probably end up being SEs way of saying get the 99 or get something else. Besides, I feel like having a level 90 or 95 being a top weapon is a little silly(coming from a person who has farmed a few relics and emps).
Hoping to God the RME buffs will be on this level though, or even greater.
You forgot the part about the new weapons screwing over BLM and Pet jobs.
Okay, let me ask you this:
You spend time getting more get. What do you do after you're done farming the best gear in the game? Well, you wait until they release better gear and then farm that gear. What is there in the game to do other than that really once you're done with all the story and quest content?
Edit:
I DID farm 7/8 of the damage magian staves to at least 90 form. It doesn't really annoy me that something better is out. Even if they were useless from a damage standpoint, they still have the -12-14% casting time down. Even then, I understand why people would be a bit peeved, but downright angry? I don't know.
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By Odin.Tsuneo 2013-04-29 20:48:54
How come new stuff isn't on the ah yet?
Edit: ffxiah.com that is
Because admins have real lives too.
By Azeran 2013-04-29 20:49:00
Anyone know why we cant get on the game yet? been what 6 1/2 hour's since the maintenance shouldnt we be able to log on by now?
Asura.Kohanu
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By Asura.Kohanu 2013-04-29 20:51:28
We can, things are just congested to hell.
Phoenix.Kojo
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-04-29 20:53:03
After thinking about it all day...I'm wondering if we're all looking at it the wrong way. The truth is, our current gear isn't useless until we get the fear that replaces it. It's not like the damage or stats go to zero upon the introduction of new gear. They said they'll buff RME(assuming obly the 99s). Like I said earlier, this will probably end up being SEs way of saying get the 99 or get something else. Besides, I feel like having a level 90 or 95 being a top weapon is a little silly(coming from a person who has farmed a few relics and emps).
Hoping to God the RME buffs will be on this level though, or even greater.
You forgot the part about the new weapons screwing over BLM and Pet jobs.
Okay, let me ask you this:
You spend time getting more get. What do you do after you're done farming the best gear in the game? Well, you wait until they release better gear and then farm that gear. What is there in the game to do other than that really once you're done with all the story and quest content?
Edit:
I DID farm 7/8 of the damage magian staves to at least 90 form. It doesn't really annoy me that something better is out. Even if they were useless from a damage standpoint, they still have the -12-14% casting time down. Even then, I understand why people would be a bit peeved, but downright angry? I don't know.
Help my LS gear up.
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Shiva.Tedril
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By Shiva.Tedril 2013-04-29 20:54:25
How come new stuff isn't on the ah yet?
Edit: ffxiah.com that is
Because admins have real lives too. I Thought it was automatic. Reason I thought that is it has a direct connection to the game to received buys and sells and shouts. So that would make sense. And doesn't seem hard to do depending on the setup of the sourcing fo the files.
Edit:Not arguing I was just explaining why I thought that lol
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By Cerberus.Diabolique 2013-04-29 20:54:52
Anyone know why we cant get on the game yet? been what 6 1/2 hour's since the maintenance shouldnt we be able to log on by now? Everyone is attempting to do the same thing you are right now. The game is up(and I have nothing to do), but the server is pretty damn congested.
You forgot the part about the new weapons screwing over BLM and Pet jobs.
How did these weapons screw over Blm and Pet jobs? I'm really not seeing the connection here.
Smn got an amazing new(Crafted, AHable) Pet nuking stave, even though they just had an amazing one last update.
I'm not sure how the new Mab Staff compares to Magians for Blm, but 71 Mab certainly seems like a lot.
Pup got a new animator and no one knows what it's effects will be, not that the puppet is really the biggest issue with the job at the moment.
Bst did get nothing for their pets I guess, but SE doesn't seem to know what to do with this job.
Can understand a lot of the issues with this patch, but seriously not seeing how pet jobs were screwed.
Lakshmi.Greggles
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By Lakshmi.Greggles 2013-04-29 20:56:20
After thinking about it all day...I'm wondering if we're all looking at it the wrong way. The truth is, our current gear isn't useless until we get the fear that replaces it. It's not like the damage or stats go to zero upon the introduction of new gear. They said they'll buff RME(assuming obly the 99s). Like I said earlier, this will probably end up being SEs way of saying get the 99 or get something else. Besides, I feel like having a level 90 or 95 being a top weapon is a little silly(coming from a person who has farmed a few relics and emps).
Hoping to God the RME buffs will be on this level though, or even greater.
You forgot the part about the new weapons screwing over BLM and Pet jobs.
Okay, let me ask you this:
You spend time getting more get. What do you do after you're done farming the best gear in the game? Well, you wait until they release better gear and then farm that gear. What is there in the game to do other than that really once you're done with all the story and quest content?
Edit:
I DID farm 7/8 of the damage magian staves to at least 90 form. It doesn't really annoy me that something better is out. Even if they were useless from a damage standpoint, they still have the -12-14% casting time down. Even then, I understand why people would be a bit peeved, but downright angry? I don't know.
Help my LS gear up.
Fair enough xD
By Azeran 2013-04-29 20:56:29
anyone have a link for the new gear
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By Asura.Aineko 2013-04-29 20:59:08
The problem with Blm and Pet jobs is that they didn't really get something enabling them to basically do twice as much damage as before, unlike the jobs whose base damage is determined by their weapon.
While the new staff for Blm is impressive, it falls short of what melees were given. Same for Smn's new staff.
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By Asura.Aineko 2013-04-29 20:59:47
anyone have a link for the new gear
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-04-29 21:00:28
The problem with Blm and Pet jobs is that they didn't really get something enabling them to basically do twice as much damage as before, unlike the jobs whose base damage is determined by their weapon.
While the new staff for Blm is impressive, it falls short of what melees were given. Same for Smn's new staff. And the fact that Magian Staves will still outdamage the new staff.
By Quetzacoatl 2013-04-29 21:02:13
Leviathan.Kincard said: »reminder that this is what the new ultimate gear looks like

For the first time since playing, I no longer want the best gear. Is it me, or do the stats on the body piece look mediocre anyway?
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By Lakshmi.Greggles 2013-04-29 21:03:23
Leviathan.Kincard said: »reminder that this is what the new ultimate gear looks like

For the first time since playing, I no longer want the best gear. Is it me, or do the stats on the body piece look mediocre anyway?
You can augment them, iirc. So that should make them pretty awesome
By Quetzacoatl 2013-04-29 21:04:07
Leviathan.Kincard said: »reminder that this is what the new ultimate gear looks like

For the first time since playing, I no longer want the best gear. Is it me, or do the stats on the body piece look mediocre anyway?
You can augment them, iirc. So that should make them pretty awesome NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
I wanted a reason to not use that horrid looking bodypiece
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By Enuyasha 2013-04-29 21:06:13
so.....anyone know what "fame" level you haveto reach to get the lowest ammount of bayld/item possible on naakuals?
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By Siren.Thoraeon 2013-04-29 21:09:27
The problem with Blm and Pet jobs is that they didn't really get something enabling them to basically do twice as much damage as before, unlike the jobs whose base damage is determined by their weapon.
While the new staff for Blm is impressive, it falls short of what melees were given. Same for Smn's new staff. And the fact that Magian Staves will still outdamage the new staff. Clarification:
The 71 MAB staff will beat magian staves if you have 62 or less MAB in gear. So for mediocre Blms, it may win.
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By Cerberus.Diabolique 2013-04-29 21:09:59
Lowest(New value) I've read was 95k with the person being Fame 3 and Rank 3(I think) in most coalitions. Possible that it can be lowered more I guess but I've not seen anyone else mention it yet.
Edit: Though yeah, it's not on the level a 3,000 damage dagger, Smn did just get it's best possible nuking staff. It's not equal, but it's not as if they were totally crapped on this update. I'd hardly call it being "screwed" at all.
Good to have some confirmation on the Blm staff, my Blm is awful with no Magian so I wasn't at all sure how that mab compared to the affinity staves.
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