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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-04-29 16:53:30
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Anyone know how the JPs are handling this on the official forums? Are they as mad as everyone else?
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By Siren.Seiri 2013-04-29 16:53:59
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Fenrir.Kayalan said: »
These new weapons are quite outstanding, and I'm not sure how long the Devs take to actually develop them...but I'm wondering if maybe the fact that Yoichi Wada stepping down as Square Enix President could have something to do with such a substantial change to the content of this game? Just food for thought.

The weapons aren't 'outstanding'. They remove relevance from everything that came before - literally everything until r/e/m update.

@Enuyasha; Abyssea came with a level upgrade, and even then it didn't make everything from 75 pointless. This update remains within the sphere of level 99, but shits on everything from before - INCLUDING existing 99 weapons.
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By Fenrir.Camiie 2013-04-29 16:54:08
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Voren said: »
Forget R/E/M, I'm about to quit simply because I can't even get to the update. I've made it as far as the update screen and I et an error. Most of the time I can't even make it past the initial login screen. Loving this update already.

One day they'll make some excuse that if they improved the update process the game files would be subject to corruption or something just as preposterous.
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By Quiznor 2013-04-29 16:54:43
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Asterian said: »
Voren said: »
Forget R/E/M, I'm about to quit simply because I can't even get to the update. I've made it as far as the update screen and I et an error. Most of the time I can't even make it past the initial login screen. Loving this update already.

Christ, have you never played an MMO on patch day before?

MMO players are the most self entitled types of gamer
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2013-04-29 16:55:03
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Sylph.Mesheef said: »
Personally I think SE has been trying to kill ffxi for a while now.

Yes you could just kill the game but you would lose a lot of potential ffxi > ffxiv transfers, so what do they do? Make it to where you can literally level every single job and max out merits/stats in less than 2 weeks if you really wanted, Make the r/e/m weapons easier to obtain, then go ahead, and before people decide to get a bunch of top r/e/m weapons, (sorry for the news Rafaras) make all the items fairly easy to get, not like the old days for relic/mythic that keeps a player playing for years. Now it will take a few months to top out the best gear/weapons in the game, game dies due to boredom, SE prays to have everyone move to ffxiv so they can finally shut down 11 and not keep cutting paychecks and supporting dead/old systems. i.e. windows xp.

Personally I see it as their push to get us off 11 and move on.

No, just no.
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By Siren.Seiri 2013-04-29 16:55:49
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Sylph.Mesheef said: »
Personally I think SE has been trying to kill ffxi for a while now.

Yes you could just kill the game but you would lose a lot of potential ffxi > ffxiv transfers, so what do they do? Make it to where you can literally level every single job and max out merits/stats in less than 2 weeks if you really wanted, Make the r/e/m weapons easier to obtain, then go ahead, and before people decide to get a bunch of top r/e/m weapons, (sorry for the news Rafaras) make all the items fairly easy to get, not like the old days for relic/mythic that keeps a player playing for years. Now it will take a few months to top out the best gear/weapons in the game, game dies due to boredom, SE prays to have everyone move to ffxiv so they can finally shut down 11 and not keep cutting paychecks and supporting dead/old systems. i.e. windows xp.

Personally I see it as their push to get us off 11 and move on.

Essentially what I said earlier, thus I agree entirely.
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By Bahamut.Jaggerjack 2013-04-29 16:57:25
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people still play ever quest i doubt this game will end soon
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-04-29 16:57:43
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Sylph.Mesheef said: »
Personally I think SE has been trying to kill ffxi for a while now.

Yes you could just kill the game but you would lose a lot of potential ffxi > ffxiv transfers, so what do they do? Make it to where you can literally level every single job and max out merits/stats in less than 2 weeks if you really wanted, Make the r/e/m weapons easier to obtain, then go ahead, and before people decide to get a bunch of top r/e/m weapons, (sorry for the news Rafaras) make all the items fairly easy to get, not like the old days for relic/mythic that keeps a player playing for years. Now it will take a few months to top out the best gear/weapons in the game, game dies due to boredom, SE prays to have everyone move to ffxiv so they can finally shut down 11 and not keep cutting paychecks and supporting dead/old systems. i.e. windows xp.

Personally I see it as their push to get us off 11 and move on.
This is satire? Yes?
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-04-29 16:57:46
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Sylph.Mesheef said: »
Personally I think SE has been trying to kill ffxi for a while now.

Yes you could just kill the game but you would lose a lot of potential ffxi > ffxiv transfers, so what do they do? Make it to where you can literally level every single job and max out merits/stats in less than 2 weeks if you really wanted, Make the r/e/m weapons easier to obtain, then go ahead, and before people decide to get a bunch of top r/e/m weapons, (sorry for the news Rafaras) make all the items fairly easy to get, not like the old days for relic/mythic that keeps a player playing for years. Now it will take a few months to top out the best gear/weapons in the game, game dies due to boredom, SE prays to have everyone move to ffxiv so they can finally shut down 11 and not keep cutting paychecks and supporting dead/old systems. i.e. windows xp.

Personally I see it as their push to get us off 11 and move on.

While I like to repeat the same, I don't really believe it, too much of a difference between FFXI and FFXIV, besides, FFXI probably funded FFXIII, it's sequels, and FFXIV.
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By Cerberus.Tikal 2013-04-29 16:57:54
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What I want to know, is what the hell are Seiri and Mesheef smoking? That ***'s going to get you killed. I'd advise stopping. What you're suggesting makes sense from NO angle at all.

Bath salts maybe? Do you even smoke those?
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By Asura.Calinzt 2013-04-29 16:58:48
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Phoenix.Kojo said: »
I don't plan on cancelling, but I'm not gonna laugh at him. He's not rage quitting, look at it as something of a boycott. You boycott to tell companies you disagree with their policies, etc. because they won't listen to one man, you hit them in the wallet and that's where they feel the most pain. I'm not participating in this...boycott, if you will, because I have friends I still like doing misc. ***with in this game, but I support these people who are cancelling in protest.
This is exactly what I thought when I cancelled the account. Basically, the only way SE will understand is if they lose subs on the day of something that the playerbase disagrees with. Can't really show it any better than that as they don't read english forums and only rely on their overseas teams to relay the information, which they normally do in a too polite way that doesn't reflect the severity of the complaints(unless the JP have the same complaints).

In addition to that, I don't see a point in the doing most of the events that I've been doing with the remaining friends I had, considering some of this gear even shits on Salvage II. I had a nice group of 3-4 friends I liked to play with. Specifically Salvage and neo limbus. Now, there's no point, considering the event's are grindy and time consuming, for a reward that looks like is going to be obsolete if SE keeps going forward with this gear ascension.

So yeah. €14 is a lot of money for me and I rather not give them to SE for something I'm not happy with. Same reason I didn't buy FFXIII-2, or Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep, or any of the games they released in the past 5 years with the exception of Seekers of Adoulin.

My main interest in FFXI lies with the lore and story. Considering expansions take at least 2 years to pan out, and relics weren't boosted until the "abyssea saga" was over, I'm just going to take a break for a while and see how things pan out, and maaaybe return when there's enough exciting missions to do in one go and not 8 short cutscenes.
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By Voren 2013-04-29 16:59:09
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Asterian said: »
Voren said: »
Forget R/E/M, I'm about to quit simply because I can't even get to the update. I've made it as far as the update screen and I et an error. Most of the time I can't even make it past the initial login screen. Loving this update already.

Christ, have you never played an MMO on patch day before?

Thank you! Your witty and ensightful words have opened my eyes 0.0
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By Asura.Lokimaru 2013-04-29 17:00:07
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I don't think you deserve to have George Carlin in your avatar.
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By Toebag 2013-04-29 17:00:21
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If they were trying to kill off FFXI they just wouldn't add anything more would they?

It's stupid spending time and money to create an expansion/update to thin out the player base. Economically it's not viable. They would be better off not creating any further updates and focusing on FFXIV if they wanted us off XI.
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By Sylph.Oraen 2013-04-29 17:00:51
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Voren said: »
Asterian said: »
Voren said: »
Forget R/E/M, I'm about to quit simply because I can't even get to the update. I've made it as far as the update screen and I et an error. Most of the time I can't even make it past the initial login screen. Loving this update already.

Christ, have you never played an MMO on patch day before?

Thank you! Your witty and ensightful words have opened my eyes 0.0

It's a patch day. Thousands upon thousands of people just like you are trying to log in at the exact same time you are. Stop being a baby.

Hope that was insightful enough for you.
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By Enuyasha 2013-04-29 17:01:09
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Siren.Seiri said: »
Fenrir.Kayalan said: »
These new weapons are quite outstanding, and I'm not sure how long the Devs take to actually develop them...but I'm wondering if maybe the fact that Yoichi Wada stepping down as Square Enix President could have something to do with such a substantial change to the content of this game? Just food for thought.

The weapons aren't 'outstanding'. They remove relevance from everything that came before - literally everything until r/e/m update.

@Enuyasha; Abyssea came with a level upgrade, and even then it didn't make everything from 75 pointless. This update remains within the sphere of level 99, but shits on everything from before - INCLUDING existing 99 weapons.
But still people are complaining there are better weapons and gear than what they have now (this time, its because they are VASTLY better[with a buff update coming to your favorite bandwagon weapons]). Parallel: yes there is one.

Level cap up or not, the same people archetypes will rage quit over nothing and mass exodus at some point for the same reasons,even if its differing circumstances.
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By Fenrir.Camiie 2013-04-29 17:02:00
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Toebag said: »
If they were trying to kill off FFXI they just wouldn't add anything more would they?

It's stupid spending time and money to create an expansion/update to thin out the player base. Economically it's not viable. They would be better off not creating any further updates and focusing on FFXIV if they wanted us off XI.

They're not trying to kill it. They're just simply that inept.
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By Lakshmi.Cadant 2013-04-29 17:02:05
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Until someone obtains one of these new gaudy weapons I have to say that people are just jumping the gun about being angry. In all likelihood, yes, these weapons are just as they look. But since no one has one, there's still the possibility they are not.

Odd though that I should cancel my subscription this morning before the maintenance even happened. If I was a religious man I might take this as some kind of sign lol
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By Quiznor 2013-04-29 17:02:19
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Toebag said: »
If they were trying to kill off FFXI they just wouldn't add anything more would they?

It's stupid spending time and money to create an expansion/update to thin out the player base. Economically it's not viable. They would be better off not creating any further updates and focusing on FFXIV if they wanted us off XI.

Manufacturing the end to a game and killing off a game are 2 entirely different things.

I think what the others are trying to say is this is "death by design"
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By Bahamut.Bekisa 2013-04-29 17:02:50
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The only reason they would want to kill off FFXI is if their equipment, maintenance, staffing, and upkeep costs are exceeding their profit margins -- or they believe they could make more profit by focusing their resources from FFXI to another place.

With as many people playing as still do today, how many SoA copies sold instantly, how many people have multiple characters at +$1/month and mules meaning their paying a full $12+ a month extra. I don't see it likely.
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By Asura.Azriel 2013-04-29 17:03:04
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I love it how ppl rated me down 1 month ago for predicting this.


§/&$&T your couch guys, i was right.
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By Toebag 2013-04-29 17:03:28
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Fenrir.Camiie said: »
Toebag said: »
If they were trying to kill off FFXI they just wouldn't add anything more would they?

It's stupid spending time and money to create an expansion/update to thin out the player base. Economically it's not viable. They would be better off not creating any further updates and focusing on FFXIV if they wanted us off XI.

They're not trying to kill it. They're just simply that inept.

Yeah, i'm well aware of that, I was trying to rebuke an earlier post stating SE are trying to push away the player base... on purpose!
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By Fenrir.Camiie 2013-04-29 17:04:34
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I've said it before. If they wanted to end it, they simply would. "We're done. Thanks for playing. Please buy our new MMO. We apologize for any inconvenience."

Toebag said: »
Yeah, i'm well aware of that, I was trying to rebuke an earlier post stating SE are trying to push away the player base... on purpose!

Yeah I got what you were saying. I was responding to the same folks as you. My bad for being unclear.
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By Toebag 2013-04-29 17:06:03
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Fenrir.Camiie said: »
I've said it before. If they wanted to end it, they simply would. "We're done. Thanks for playing. Please buy our new MMO. We apologize for any inconvenience."

yeah, that's basically what I was saying..

"Wait a minute, too many words mean nearly the same thing, but still are different.
Nobody can learn all of those words. I'm going to bed!"
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By Siren.Barber 2013-04-29 17:06:19
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It is not just the weapons.the armor is awesome too and remember that each of them can be given THREE separate augments. It is very likely no gear we have is still best in slot.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-04-29 17:06:32
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Asura.Azriel said: »
I love it how ppl rated me down 1 month ago for predicting this.


§/&$&T your couch guys, i was right.
I thought we rated you down because your tattoo was ugly.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2013-04-29 17:07:18
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Bahamut.Krizz said: »
Also, for those that have never used one of my patches before:
http://tehkrizz.net/FFXI/patchguide.php
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By Fenrir.Camiie 2013-04-29 17:07:25
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Wait, you can rate people down on the forums here? No one told me about this!
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2013-04-29 17:07:31
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Also: FUKKIN SHATTERSOUL STAFF. Sch/drk, is gonna be fun to mess around on :3.
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