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By Siren.Seiri 2013-04-29 16:35:54
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Asura.Ina said: »
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It makes no sense to render all newly-released gear (Naakual and Skirmish stuff) in the very next update from which it was released. There just has to be something we're missing. Information that can't be data-mined.
I think it's more likely SE has just decided to go the gear grind MMO route, the next update will top what we got this time, then again after that and so on and so forth.

Which basically destroys what little edge ffxi had on the mmo market, instead making it another copy and paste WoW.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-29 16:36:10
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Asura.Jinajaina said: »
Is there any new story content this update?
June along with the rest of the important stuff. This was only a "minor" update.
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By Enuyasha 2013-04-29 16:38:09
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Siren.Seiri said: »
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It makes no sense to render all newly-released gear (Naakual and Skirmish stuff) in the very next update from which it was released. There just has to be something we're missing. Information that can't be data-mined.
I think it's more likely SE has just decided to go the gear grind MMO route, the next update will top what we got this time, then again after that and so on and so forth.

Which basically destroys what little edge ffxi had on the mmo market, instead making it another copy and paste WoW.
FFXI was gear grind before WoW was gear grind...just not to the nth degree of "modern market" MMOs.

We just havent gotten a full "WOMFG THIS IS STUPID CAUSE THE GEAR I WORKED FOR FOR CENTURIES IS NOW "useless" update in forever.


More important questions: Did they add RUN/GEO AF/Relic/Empyrean gear :o
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2013-04-29 16:38:11
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I kinda want one of those Yovra Replica's.
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By Asura.Dyablito 2013-04-29 16:38:34
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Pya'ekue Belt!?
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By Sylph.Oraen 2013-04-29 16:38:53
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Asura.Jinajaina said: »
Is there any new story content this update?
June along with the rest of the important stuff. This was only a "minor" update.

Minor meaning HOLY *** ***WHAT IS GOING ON OH GOD MY LIFE IS A LIE.

I know what you mean, I'm just still trying to wrap my head around this.
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-04-29 16:39:12
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It makes no sense to render all newly-released gear (Naakual and Skirmish stuff) in the very next update from which it was released. There just has to be something we're missing. Information that can't be data-mined.
I think it's more likely SE has just decided to go the gear grind MMO route, the next update will top what we got this time, then again after that and so on and so forth.
Still doesn't make sense. The community hasn't even had time to digest the current content. I don't think there are even complete maps of all the Skirmish areas yet. Then add in the enormous disparity between these new stats and I'm still scratching my head wondering what's missing here.
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By Valefor.Sehachan 2013-04-29 16:39:18
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
Don't need a full alliance for any VW fight.
Need to know the people you're inviting though to make it with a small group. Just taking my example where I know barely a few people on this server if I shout I have no idea what kind of people I get. Can't really kill even Qilin with 5 widowmakers. And with interest in the event being low, being picky may be counterproductive.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-04-29 16:39:31
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Valefor.Sehachan said: »
Asura.Jinajaina said: »
Is there any new story content this update?
June along with the rest of the important stuff. This was only a "minor" update.

One that pissed alot of people off, rendered everything obtainable 4-5 hours ago useless, and...well, not much else.
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By itchi508 2013-04-29 16:39:34
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Does this mean 5m marrows? 25k HMP 250k cinders and 100k dross?

Highly doubt it, people will just shift their labor hour to the new stuff and old stuff will reduce in supply.


Been saying this for awhile. 99 emps are going to be next to impossible since you can't low man farm 90-99. (realistically)
This is also true and a load of shiz, VW was a mistake for HMP farm biggest load of crap. Also VW is dead. How you suppose to upgrade emps if no one does them and you need a alliance to even have a slim to none chance at a pouch..
Don't need a full alliance for any VW fight.
Didn't say full alliance but doing a /sh for VW you think your going to get veterans and go 8man Qilin? I don't think so.
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By Cerberus.Kylos 2013-04-29 16:39:44
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Meanwhile ... some Japanese guys monkey sees the update.

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By Siren.Seiri 2013-04-29 16:39:54
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Enuyasha said: »
Siren.Seiri said: »
Asura.Ina said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
It makes no sense to render all newly-released gear (Naakual and Skirmish stuff) in the very next update from which it was released. There just has to be something we're missing. Information that can't be data-mined.
I think it's more likely SE has just decided to go the gear grind MMO route, the next update will top what we got this time, then again after that and so on and so forth.

Which basically destroys what little edge ffxi had on the mmo market, instead making it another copy and paste WoW.
FFXI was gear grind before WoW was gear grind...just not to the nth degree of "modern market" MMOs.

We just havent gotten a full "WOMFG THIS IS STUPID CAUSE THE GEAR I WORKED FOR FOR CENTURIES IS NOW "useless" update in forever.


More important questions: Did they add RUN/GEO AF/Relic/Empyrean gear :o

FFXI gear grind wasn't the 'replace everything that already exists when we update' grind, it was a 'we'll add small upgrades here and there, but the status quo will remain' grind.
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By Cerberus.Neojuggernaut 2013-04-29 16:40:02
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Still no Jubaku or Monomi: Ni :(
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By Cerberus.Pleebo 2013-04-29 16:40:33
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Phoenix.Kojo said: »

I don't plan on cancelling, but I'm not gonna laugh at him. He's not rage quitting, look at it as something of a boycott. You boycott to tell companies you disagree with their policies, etc. because they won't listen to one man, you hit them in the wallet and that's where they feel the most pain. I'm not participating in this...boycott, if you will, because I have friends I still like doing misc. ***with in this game, but I support these people who are cancelling in protest.
Quitting over dat-mined info = stupid.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-04-29 16:40:33
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Enuyasha said: »
More important questions: Did they add RUN/GEO AF/Relic/Empyrean gear :o

No, we're still pretty much useless.
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By Enuyasha 2013-04-29 16:42:45
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Phoenix.Kojo said: »
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More important questions: Did they add RUN/GEO AF/Relic/Empyrean gear :o

No, we're still pretty much useless.
fukkin god damnit SE ;A;

Also just to say: RUN got some *** gear in this update.

http://wiki.bluegartr.com/bg/Manibozho_Brais


I an partially throw ocelot trousers :<
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By Ramuh.Austar 2013-04-29 16:43:53
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itchi508 said: »
Ramuh.Austar said: »
itchi508 said: »
Cerberus.Taint said: »
Chyula said: »
Ragnarok.Presidentobama said: »
Does this mean 5m marrows? 25k HMP 250k cinders and 100k dross?

Highly doubt it, people will just shift their labor hour to the new stuff and old stuff will reduce in supply.


Been saying this for awhile. 99 emps are going to be next to impossible since you can't low man farm 90-99. (realistically)
This is also true and a load of shiz, VW was a mistake for HMP farm biggest load of crap. Also VW is dead. How you suppose to upgrade emps if no one does them and you need a alliance to even have a slim to none chance at a pouch..
Don't need a full alliance for any VW fight.
Didn't say full alliance but doing a /sh for VW you think your going to get veterans and go 8man Qilin? I don't think so.
No reason to shout for VW. Ask some friends who aren't HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE and you're set for almost every fight with less than 10
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By Hercureles 2013-04-29 16:43:54
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Maint pops up 2moro, " Opps, just kidding /all base dmg reduced to 2 points over 99 r/e/m." :P
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By Sylph.Oraen 2013-04-29 16:43:55
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Enuyasha said: »
Phoenix.Kojo said: »
Enuyasha said: »
More important questions: Did they add RUN/GEO AF/Relic/Empyrean gear :o

No, we're still pretty much useless.
fukkin god damnit SE ;A;

Also just to say: EVERYTHING got some *** gear in this update.

FTFY
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-04-29 16:44:28
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Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
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I don't plan on cancelling, but I'm not gonna laugh at him. He's not rage quitting, look at it as something of a boycott. You boycott to tell companies you disagree with their policies, etc. because they won't listen to one man, you hit them in the wallet and that's where they feel the most pain. I'm not participating in this...boycott, if you will, because I have friends I still like doing misc. ***with in this game, but I support these people who are cancelling in protest.
Quitting over dat-mined info = stupid.

One can still reactivate. Killing one's self over dat-mined info is stupid, you can't exactly reactivate from death.

Anyway, I should mention that Aegis was in the .dats in 2004-ish for quite awhile before it was obtainable. I don't think it had stats at all, let alone broken ones, so you do have a point, stats are subject to change, but they better do it damn quick, unless the new weapons aren't yet obtainable.
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By Phoenix.Kojo 2013-04-29 16:45:44
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Hercureles said: »
Maint pops up 2moro, " Opps, just kidding /all base dmg reduced to 2 points over 99 r/e/m." :P

I'm half-compelled to say it...




.....Good idea, bro.
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By Asura.Ina 2013-04-29 16:45:58
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Enuyasha said: »
Siren.Seiri said: »
Asura.Ina said: »
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It makes no sense to render all newly-released gear (Naakual and Skirmish stuff) in the very next update from which it was released. There just has to be something we're missing. Information that can't be data-mined.
I think it's more likely SE has just decided to go the gear grind MMO route, the next update will top what we got this time, then again after that and so on and so forth.

Which basically destroys what little edge ffxi had on the mmo market, instead making it another copy and paste WoW.
FFXI was gear grind before WoW was gear grind...just not to the nth degree of "modern market" MMOs.

We just havent gotten a full "WOMFG THIS IS STUPID CAUSE THE GEAR I WORKED FOR FOR CENTURIES IS NOW "useless" update in forever.


More important questions: Did they add RUN/GEO AF/Relic/Empyrean gear :o
Not really, for 11 years SE has kept almost all content relevant by keeping a few pieces from everything as useful. Saying gear grind MMO is in reference to everything being obsoleted with each update, TOR is a good example as they just kept releasing another step to the mod slots in gear. By contrast you could work for a piece in XI and get more than a month or two mileage out of it which is probably one of the things that kept people into the game since they didn't do something only for it to have been made a waste of their time the next update.
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By Fenrir.Elliott 2013-04-29 16:46:12
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Asura.Calinzt said: »

See ya in 2 years when SE updates REM.

Quitting this early into all of this is like saying you hate the game without even playing it.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2013-04-29 16:47:11
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Patch files:

http://tehkrizz.net/FFXI/patches/20130429.rar
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By Odin.Registry 2013-04-29 16:48:08
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By Enuyasha 2013-04-29 16:48:12
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Asura.Ina said: »
Enuyasha said: »
Siren.Seiri said: »
Asura.Ina said: »
Cerberus.Pleebo said: »
It makes no sense to render all newly-released gear (Naakual and Skirmish stuff) in the very next update from which it was released. There just has to be something we're missing. Information that can't be data-mined.
I think it's more likely SE has just decided to go the gear grind MMO route, the next update will top what we got this time, then again after that and so on and so forth.

Which basically destroys what little edge ffxi had on the mmo market, instead making it another copy and paste WoW.
FFXI was gear grind before WoW was gear grind...just not to the nth degree of "modern market" MMOs.

We just havent gotten a full "WOMFG THIS IS STUPID CAUSE THE GEAR I WORKED FOR FOR CENTURIES IS NOW "useless" update in forever.


More important questions: Did they add RUN/GEO AF/Relic/Empyrean gear :o
Not really, for 11 years SE has kept almost all content relevant by keeping a few pieces from everything as useful. Saying gear grind MMO is in reference to everything being obsoleted with each update, TOR is a good example as they just kept releasing another step to the mod slots in gear. By contrast you could work for a piece in XI and get more than a month or two mileage out of it which is probably one of the things that kept people into the game since they didn't do something only for it to have been made a waste of their time the next update.
Which is partially still a "gear grind" experience, just very sedated on how hungry for your tears and monehs it is. This same effect happened when aby came out and pretty much for the same reasons too.
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By Fenrir.Kayalan 2013-04-29 16:49:28
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These new weapons are quite outstanding, and I'm not sure how long the Devs take to actually develop them...but I'm wondering if maybe the fact that Yoichi Wada stepping down as Square Enix President could have something to do with such a substantial change to the content of this game? Just food for thought.
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By Voren 2013-04-29 16:49:43
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Forget R/E/M, I'm about to quit simply because I can't even get to the update. I've made it as far as the update screen and I et an error. Most of the time I can't even make it past the initial login screen. Loving this update already.
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By Asterian 2013-04-29 16:52:00
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Voren said: »
Forget R/E/M, I'm about to quit simply because I can't even get to the update. I've made it as far as the update screen and I et an error. Most of the time I can't even make it past the initial login screen. Loving this update already.

Christ, have you never played an MMO on patch day before?
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By Odin.Sawtelle 2013-04-29 16:52:51
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I'm suprised that so many people are making judgements before we know much about delve. I'm standing by where I stood last update: If the content is fun I welcome it w/ open arms. I have been bored of farming ADL and salvage and endless voidwatch for quite a while now. (Reives aren't much better, but meh, heres hoping!)
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