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April 29, 2013 Version Update
 Asura.Rekin
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 265
By Asura.Rekin 2013-04-11 09:50:44
They had talked about making Stage1 of every WS 65% then increase 5% with further levels. So people could merit more then 3 WS for jobs they use. I remember this as well but it won't really matter. For any job you are serious about playing you will still want 5/5.
Edit: I should elaborate and say any job where the merit WS is relevant to you.
This basically, unless they let us have more merits to use overall (which is what I really want). Would it be game-breaking for us to have four or five 5/5 merited weapon skills? SE has some sort of hardon for denying players so they'll never increase cap. instead they'll make it so that the non-min/maxers can play with the other skills. I think the idea is by limiting us the make us define a couple main jobs instead of letting us play all 22 at full strength. I guess it's the trade off for letting us level to 99 in a day or 2. You'd think inventory limitations and players themselves being individuals with varying degrees of skill would be enough. Bleh.
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By itchi508 2013-04-11 09:53:59
You never seen Mandau exenterator doin 6-7ks?
MS Upheaval 9-10ks
MS Reso 9-10ks
Drk reso 7-8ks
Entropy- 6-8ks
Shoha 6-8k+
Idk what kind of players you are around but during our ADLs these weaponskills are consistantly doing very well all around during ADL And just basic Tomb farming
 Asura.Ccl
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1998
By Asura.Ccl 2013-04-11 09:54:13
In what world are Shoha/Exen/Upheaval doing as much dmg as resolution O.O
You've never seen sam's spike high with shoha?
Spike once in a blue moon doesn't make it as good. I wish shoha was as good as Reso!
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Seraph.Koroma
Server: Seraph
Game: FFXI
By Seraph.Koroma 2013-04-11 09:55:41
PLEASE SE, don't nerf Ruinator first WS in about a decade for bst to beat Rampage finally and that's including r/m/e lol.
By itchi508 2013-04-11 09:56:36
In what world are Shoha/Exen/Upheaval doing as much dmg as resolution O.O
You've never seen sam's spike high with shoha?
Spike once in a blue moon doesn't make it as good. I wish shoha was as good as Reso! It can be with weapon/gear. reso isnt the best WS its just most commmon used and easyest to gear. Plus warriors tossing up MS is fun numbers same with upheaval.
Mainly its coming from the drks tho so its not the ws itself its the att war and drk are capable of..
Asura.Ccl
Server: Asura
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Posts: 1998
By Asura.Ccl 2013-04-11 09:59:51
I'd like to see pic of your 7k Exen on ADL.
And your 6-8k are average lol ?
Server: Phoenix
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Posts: 1285
By Phoenix.Dramatica 2013-04-11 10:00:38
You never seen Mandau exenterator doin 6-7ks?
MS Upheaval 9-10ks
MS Reso 9-10ks
Drk reso 7-8ks
Entropy- 6-8ks
Shoha 6-8k+
Idk what kind of players you are around but during our ADLs these weaponskills are consistantly doing very well all around during ADL And just basic Tomb farming You're *** high.
By itchi508 2013-04-11 10:03:49
Phoenix.Dramatica said: »You never seen Mandau exenterator doin 6-7ks?
MS Upheaval 9-10ks
MS Reso 9-10ks
Drk reso 7-8ks
Entropy- 6-8ks
Shoha 6-8k+
Idk what kind of players you are around but during our ADLs these weaponskills are consistantly doing very well all around during ADL And just basic Tomb farming You're *** high. Im high? Lol im not bragging here as i dont use 1/2 the ws i listed and only ragnarok war or drk during adl. Im listing what i see coming from other people so its not like im lieing tryn to boast about my dmg note care if u belive or not. Jus sayin iv seen these numbers specialy a 99mandau thf SA exenterator doin 5k+ on regulare to ADL
Asura.Ccl
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1998
By Asura.Ccl 2013-04-11 10:05:11
Why do you bring other DD than sam and WASTE slot with war if they need MS to barely beat DRK reso ?
Also I want pic of your 7k Exen on adl!
VIP
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9534
By Odin.Jassik 2013-04-11 10:12:07
I've broke into the 7k range a few times with Shoha, but nowhere near as consistently as with reso. reso doesn't need a Nerf, other ws need more relevant mods. int and vit mods are moronic.
By itchi508 2013-04-11 10:12:26
Why do you bring other DD than sam and WASTE slot with war if they need MS to barely beat DRK reso ?
Also I want pic of your 7k Exen on adl!
Lol i dont use exenterator i just listed nor do i have mandau
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 694
By Sylph.Decimus 2013-04-11 10:15:29
What *** *** Mandau thf is using sa+exent? Didn't you also have an extended series of posts talking out your *** about the Bee and a fight that never happened?
And why did this turn into only talking about merit ws's when they've already explained how they're adjusting the system. People have already beaten Colkhab (the Bee wildskeeper Reive) so it probably is appropriate to introduce more content for people that actually do things.
By itchi508 2013-04-11 10:17:19
I've broke into the 7k range a few times with Shoha, but nowhere near as consistently as with reso. reso doesn't need a Nerf, other ws need more relevant mods. int and vit mods are moronic. Well again we mentioned WS doin spikes no?
Fully buffed on somthing like ADL
Also i already said drk and war have significant higher attack than other jobs so also reason reso is most loved WS
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By Phoenix.Dramatica 2013-04-11 10:20:25
You are so wrong that it isn't even funny.
Asura.Ccl
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1998
By Asura.Ccl 2013-04-11 10:20:30
drk and war have significant higher attack than other jobs so also reason reso is most loved WS
You can add all the att you want to shoha/upheaval/exen it won't make it better than reso for adl.
By mattyc 2013-04-11 10:25:39
the point is this, reso does not need to be nerfed, other ws's need to be boosted to be matched or comparable, spike damage does not happen as much as it should for shoha, upheaval is not all that great when war's should have ukko's, or if they have bravura war, stardiver is just lol in most situations.
your can't compare a 30 second 1 hour ability to a full time *** raping drk.
reso > shoha > upheaval.
reso by a long shot, because the buffs drk's get.
Shoha is hard to cap high damage, the only way your gonna dump 7-9k ALOT is if your name is Uesugi.
By itchi508 2013-04-11 10:28:02
What *** *** Mandau thf is using sa+exent? Didn't you also have an extended series of posts talking out your *** about the Bee and a fight that never happened? Talking out my *** about bees? Lol wtf u talkn bout
By Gimp 2013-04-11 10:29:14
to point out you'd use kaiten/fudo if your ratio is capped instead of shoha so you don't use shoha all the time for max damage unlike reso.
if I could max out 2 more categories in the merit ws category i'll die happy otherwise eh.
By itchi508 2013-04-11 10:33:32
And i already listed drk gets top choice when it comes to att and reso but if your going upheaval or reso warrior to such events and not using MS then its pointless to go war, thats the advantage war has with /ja to do outrageous numbers
By itchi508 2013-04-11 10:38:03
Theres nothing to argue about. In the end like i said its not so much the weaponskill that is powerfull over others. Its the job and /ja that enables them to be so aggressive and more consistent wit high numbers.
as we said drk reso will usualy always put up the best and most consistant because of obvious reasons. And fyi im not bragging about any numbers i do so there is no agruement on the subject of what others can do.
Asura.Ccl
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1998
By Asura.Ccl 2013-04-11 10:45:49
I want a screenshot from the 7k exen your friend do on adl.
By itchi508 2013-04-11 10:52:10
If i still did ADL with them id take one. I havnt done ADL in over a month though. Idk why your so eager to argue on this. A mandy thf shld be able to do 5ks np and occ spike 6-7ks i dnt see why you make such a big deal over it. U must be a main thf that is pissy you havnt landed comparable numbers yourself?
Asura.Ccl
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1998
By Asura.Ccl 2013-04-11 10:55:41
so the 7k was before cRatio increase for 1hander O.O
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By itchi508 2013-04-11 10:58:08
so the 7k was before cRatio increase for 1hander O.O English please? Lol i am not a math wizard no clue what your refering to here wit cRatio.
By Chyula 2013-04-11 10:58:23
Hold this ***, you guys comparing a ws spam machine sam with drk's reso??. Soha may not do more spike dmg, but sam spam it a lot more than that 6 or 7 hit drk's epeen damage.
Sylph.Oraen
Server: Sylph
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2087
By Sylph.Oraen 2013-04-11 10:58:51
Itchi, you have quickly escalated yourself to Saevel status. Pls stahp.
By Chyula 2013-04-11 11:05:13
I want a screenshot from the 7k exen your friend do on adl.
I want a screen shot of anyone beside MS war doing consistence 7k dmg outside abys.
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By itchi508 2013-04-11 11:08:56
I am not compairing anything. as people want to argue on WS that are all great in ther ways and dependant on there jobs that differ them. This has escalated to retardedness over the talk of reso nerf, after i stated all WS can do outragous numbers with correct gear/buffs and based in the jobs /ja. so you cannot single out reso as all WS are capable of doing comparable dmg in some ways of course with the exception jobs have diff advantages than others.
That should be end of story and move back to the original topic.
Valefor.Abeo
Server: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 40
By Valefor.Abeo 2013-04-11 11:09:18
Kuroganashitchi.
By itchi508 2013-04-11 11:10:03
I want a screenshot from the 7k exen your friend do on adl.
I want a screen shot of anyone beside MS war doing consistence 7k dmg outside abys. Lol you ever done ADL?
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The next version update is scheduled to come a-ridin' into town at the end of April, hot on the heels of last month's update!
The update will wrangle together further enmity adjustments, reive adjustments, attribute corrections and adjustments associated with weapons skills learned through merit points, cap increases for magic skills, and a bevy of job-related adjustments.
Also coming in guns a-blazin' is all-new battle content which takes aim at players who have completed existing Wildskeeper Reive and Skirmish content. |
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