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Defending Ring
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3351
By Fenrir.Terminus 2013-03-22 12:09:15
Yeah. All depends on how much someone wants it, for sure. But it's two transfers either way, since you you have to be able to give the gil to the first one, send him there, and bring him back.
Didn't you used to get one free one? Or be able to like, google world pass codes?
Server: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 834
By Valefor.Houppelande 2013-03-22 12:10:14
Valefor.Houppelande said: »Quetzalcoatl.Waffless said: »Why aren't you on my server >< Create a mule and give it 80 million. Transfer it to Phoenix. In 3 months transfer the mule back and d box ring to Waffless. Can also create two mules, 1 on Quetz, one on Phoenix. Give the one on Quetz 80mil and transfer. Give the gil to the mule created on Phoenix and buy the ring. Transfer that one to Quetz immediately. Faster, and cheaper if you delete both mules within the month (vs paying for three months.) But what I can't sort out is how to cross the river using all seven bridges only once each and return to where I started. Isn't that $50 for two transfers or am I missing something? ***i don't want 4% dt THAT bad.
I hear you sir - Personally I could never afford to do something like that but for some $50 is pocket change.
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Quetzalcoatl.Waffless
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 376
By Quetzalcoatl.Waffless 2013-03-22 14:27:43
I'm with Ashman. I don't want one that badly <.<, although I'd probably farm up the 80m if you were on this server.
Cerberus.Taint
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1514
By Cerberus.Taint 2013-03-22 14:37:04
80mil is a steal.
My LS has to be in the 0/100 range between all members. We had better luck camping KB at 75.
By stormix 2013-03-22 19:16:25
I don't think we need a thread to explain to people how supply and demand works unless people are just that ignorant. Obviously if I had to create a thread explaining it there are people that "ignorant".
Phoenix.Suji
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 962
By Phoenix.Suji 2013-03-22 20:38:56
When selling or buying an item, I have never seen it where the buyer only gives gil once it is in their bag. Always on the pool.Do not give gil till everyone but buyer and seller have passed, problem solved. Except that this is 80mil, nearly a whole relic's worth of gil. I'm obviously willing to pay ahead of time for cheap stuff.
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6052
By Leviathan.Comeatmebro 2013-03-22 20:40:26
Not to mention unless the OP is flat-out HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE or a gambling addict, it's a scam. The price is far too low to be reasonable.
Cerberus.Eugene
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6999
By Cerberus.Eugene 2013-03-22 20:42:03
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Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9534
By Odin.Jassik 2013-03-22 20:42:47
When selling or buying an item, I have never seen it where the buyer only gives gil once it is in their bag. Always on the pool.Do not give gil till everyone but buyer and seller have passed, problem solved. Except that this is 80mil, nearly a whole relic's worth of gil. I'm obviously willing to pay ahead of time for cheap stuff.
Its not like there isn't a long established pattern for paying for a Ra/Ex drop. If you think that the Mercenary should make special accomodations for you that they aren't willing to, they can move on to a more sensible client.
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Fenrir.Sylow
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6862
By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-03-22 20:44:09
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »Not to mention unless the OP is flat-out HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE or a gambling addict, it's a scam. The price is far too low to be reasonable.
JPs were going to sell me one for 50mil (they were doing for tongues/abjuration) but it didn't drop :(
By stormix 2013-03-22 20:46:03
Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: »Not to mention unless the OP is flat-out HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE or a gambling addict, it's a scam. The price is far too low to be reasonable. lol Too funny tell my satisfied customers how much of a scam I am! I have 8 pops in got 1 ring so far. working on more. I sell other things besides rings. A merc lives and dies on his reputation.
OH and btw my wife would say I am a gambling addict :P
By cravygravy 2013-03-22 20:46:21
I'm sorry,I will not let a person obtain the item before I get paid!
I have a good reputation for selling items on server. I don't rip people off.
Never seen you shout to sell anything but D. Ring
Phoenix.Suji
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 962
By Phoenix.Suji 2013-03-22 20:51:38
Its not like there isn't a long established pattern for paying for a Ra/Ex drop. If you think that the Mercenary should make special accomodations for you that they aren't willing to, they can move on to a more sensible client. Which is fine by me, really. If he wants a buyer, I'm here. I've interacted with nearly all of you in one thread or another, it's not like I'm a shady stranger.
I've never seen Stormix shouting to sell a single thing before d.ring and I don't know where the so-called "good reputation for selling items" has come from as I have friends in all the major shells on the server and I can't find anyone who's bought from them.
These things are weighted risks and if the OP really wants to establish a solid reputation, I'm totally willing to tuck my tail and shower him with praise in this thread once the ring is in my bag on my terms. If not, so be it.
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Phoenix.Morier
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 898
By Phoenix.Morier 2013-03-22 21:01:53
I'm sorry,I will not let a person obtain the item before I get paid!
I have a good reputation for selling items on server. I don't rip people off.
Never seen you shout to sell anything but D. Ring Clearly dynamis money and heavy metals count? amirite?
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Bismarck.Bedrin
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 59
By Bismarck.Bedrin 2013-03-22 21:36:57
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Bismarck.Hsieh
Server: Bismarck
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Posts: 709
By Bismarck.Hsieh 2013-03-22 22:00:55
People still have the right to question prices if they suspect something especially on a new ffxiah account or never heard of you.
Just find it odd why start a thread about it. If you're trying to sell one on here, totally different topic.
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By stormix 2013-03-23 01:48:57
First off, I posted in my server so people that doubt prices can see in black and white why the ring is the price that it is.
Second I Have sold many items on this account as well as my main, I never hid who I was suji knows who I am and if he asked people about my original account (pierceddarkness) he would get rave reviews.
Just because you haven't bought anything from me does not mean I have never sold anything. But this thread is about the price of a D. ring. It's not a omg he won't let me have the drop before I pay him because he is a new account that I have never bought anything from and he never posts on ffxiah. On top of that person wanting drop before he pays he is offering 12mil below my price, go figure!
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3351
By Fenrir.Terminus 2013-03-23 02:28:27
So much crazy drama for a guy that trying to sell something that lots of people want to buy. I can't imagine what might happen once a D Ring is in the loot pool.
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Quetzalcoatl.Bryangelos
Server: Quetzalcoatl
Game: FFXI
Posts: 30
By Quetzalcoatl.Bryangelos 2013-03-23 02:41:45
I notice you have two different twilight helms for sale, and i am curious what i get for the 6 mil one versus the 3 mil?
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Carbuncle.Akivatoo
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 263
By Carbuncle.Akivatoo 2013-03-23 03:19:14
i get a drop on it 1/23 so 100M is actual good price for it
Phoenix.Suji
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 962
By Phoenix.Suji 2013-03-23 14:32:45
So much crazy drama for a guy that trying to sell something that lots of people want to buy. Not sure what you mean, the drama in here is barely worth a handful of popcorn.
Phoenix.Capuchin
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3831
By Phoenix.Capuchin 2013-03-24 14:38:41
First off, I posted in my server so people that doubt prices can see in black and white why the ring is the price that it is.
Second I Have sold many items on this account as well as my main, I never hid who I was suji knows who I am and if he asked people about my original account (pierceddarkness) he would get rave reviews.
For what it's worth, I can vouch for Stormix as a stand up guy. He's been around for years on Titan-Phoenix between this and his original account Pierceddarkness. Good person and efficient player.
I completely understand if someone is wary of paying 80M to someone they don't really know, that's a big chunk of change. But if it helps any, here's one voice saying he's legit.
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Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9534
By Odin.Jassik 2013-03-24 15:08:46
First off, I posted in my server so people that doubt prices can see in black and white why the ring is the price that it is. Second I Have sold many items on this account as well as my main, I never hid who I was suji knows who I am and if he asked people about my original account (pierceddarkness) he would get rave reviews. For what it's worth, I can vouch for Stormix as a stand up guy. He's been around for years on Titan-Phoenix between this and his original account Pierceddarkness. Good person and efficient player. I completely understand if someone is wary of paying 80M to someone they don't really know, that's a big chunk of change. But if it helps any, here's one voice saying he's legit.
Endorsements by a guy with a PUP Avatar can go either way. ^^
Phoenix.Capuchin
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3831
By Phoenix.Capuchin 2013-03-25 02:44:31
Endorsements by a guy with a PUP Avatar can go either way. ^^
/rolleyes. Yeah, the fact that among the 10 jobs I play across two characters, one of them that I enjoy happens to not be very popular in group events really says something about whether I can comment on another player's honesty based on my own personal experiences with them.
Thanks for the snarky comment. Was super helpful.
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By Phorcys 2013-03-30 22:14:09
I Shout to sell Defending Ring! I charge 80 million gil for it!
I am so tired of people telling me how WAY OVERPRICED that is. Aside from the fact that if you don't like my price farm your own ring.
I wanted to take this opportunity to explain cost to all the "people" that complain about price.
Defending ring is a 4.5-5% drop rate, according to math that means you can possibly pop up to 20 KB's and not get ring.
Savory Shank sells for 8-9 million, (I know I sell them too).
Doing the math 20x8mil = 160mil lowend
20x9mil = 180mil highend
I am gambling that I will get a ring to drop sooner, HOWEVER I am taking all the cost risk in getting ring. You the customer risk nothing, no ring no pay. So please feel free to farm your own, assume a little risk for yourself, or stfu and buy the ring!
^This. Especially because Defending Ring with a 5% d0rp rate is just a blanket calculation. That s*** may not drop for 100+ KB kills. People say Ridill is a 10% drop rate. Well guess what? It's far less than 10% and Defending Ring has a far less drop rate than Ridill.
Fenrir.Sylow
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 6862
By Fenrir.Sylow 2013-03-30 22:16:17
Not according to FFXIDB, which you know, actually records things instead of relying on anecdotes and confirmation bias.
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Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9265
By Odin.Eikechi 2013-03-30 22:17:29
Not according to FFXIDB, which you know, actually records things instead of relying on anecdotes and confirmation bias.
I was just about to quote the database lol. defending ring is 4.3% and ridill is 2.2%
Bismarck.Snprphnx
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2715
By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2013-03-30 22:30:05
SE even stated once that they have the same drop rate programmed in.
Server: Odin
Game: FFXI
Posts: 9265
By Odin.Eikechi 2013-03-30 22:31:54
Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »SE even stated once that they have the same drop rate programmed in.
when? Can you cite that? The database program actually takes drops and gives a percent based on HNM popped vs drop rate...
I Shout to sell Defending Ring! I charge 80 million gil for it!
I am so tired of people telling me how WAY OVERPRICED that is. Aside from the fact that if you don't like my price farm your own ring.
I wanted to take this opportunity to explain cost to all the "people" that complain about price.
Defending ring is a 4.5-5% drop rate, according to math that means you can possibly pop up to 20 KB's and not get ring.
Savory Shank sells for 8-9 million, (I know I sell them too).
Doing the math 20x8mil = 160mil lowend
20x9mil = 180mil highend
I am gambling that I will get a ring to drop sooner, HOWEVER I am taking all the cost risk in getting ring. You the customer risk nothing, no ring no pay. So please feel free to farm your own, assume a little risk for yourself, or stfu and buy the ring!
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