I find it interesting. America was originally founded with the intent of strong state rights, and a weaker Central government. Obviously we've made this country the exact opposite of that. And most ppl don't care. At least until they disagree with the Central government. Then all of a sudden its "well my state legalized it!". We made it what it is today, we live with what it is today. (Or try to change it legally) Marijuana is declared illegal by the federal government. And Federal supersedes state. So state passing it is irrelevant.
sorry to say but your last comment is wrong, its called jurisdiction. that means the local police wont arrest you for possesion, but if the fbi randomly drops by youre f'd (tho if you have feds in your business you probably have bigger fish to fry)
Your partially right. Their is jurisdiction. But in this case (and any cases) federal has jurisdiction over local. However if you do get raided by the fbi... you probably do have bigger things to worry about lol.
how do you repeat exactly what i said and half agree with me at the same time? gtfo romney!
Didn't Washington state also legalize it? Hmmm...I...Hmmm... How much does the average three to four bedroom, two to two and a half bath run in either of those states? /updates resume
Yep full on legalization in both states, or rather decriminalization. They won't investigate or prosecute you for it. Both seem rather open places, shouldn't be expensive.
LOL! Jokes. Only jokes. Haven't really had the itch since college (Errr...Maybe a few times with a certain circle.), and it's nothing I would lose a job over. I'm positive companies would still require testing.
I think if the company is based in Washington there is a possibilty they won't... I'm not sure how they will draw it up... it might be like alcohol... you can do it just can't be drunk/high while at work... If the company is based outside of Washington I think they can still require mandatory drug tests and sobriety if the state they are based in is one in which it is still illegal... just speculation at this point though...
Yeah I wouldn't be going around smoking MJ just yet. Private companies can still have policy requirements about hiring practices, provided they don't discriminate based on sex / race / age / ect. The extent of that would be something a state court would have to take a look at, and seeing as the states in question just decriminalized it, I don't think their courts are going to let private for-profit companies hire based on it.
It'll be treated exactly how alcohol is currently, don't be intoxicated while driving a vehicle, operating heavy machinery or at your place of work. You shouldn't be drinking prior to going to work, nor at work, so smoking MJ wouldn't be allowed either.
Marijuanna should should be treated imo exactly like alcohol, you can smoke it all you want in the privacy of your own home but if you have it in public exposed where all can see then boom make it the equivalent to public intoxication. Seeing as you cant paper bag a joint would be safe to assume that no one would smoke it in public unless they wanted to get arrested.
on a side note they should do the same ***with cigarettes :/
Marijuanna should should be treated imo exactly like alcohol, you can smoke it all you want in the privacy of your own home but if you have it in public exposed where all can see then boom make it the equivalent to public intoxication. Seeing as you cant paper bag a joint would be safe to assume that no one would smoke it in public unless they wanted to get arrested.
on a side note they should do the same ***with cigarettes :/
People smoke it in public now, me included, without "wanting to get arrested".. I mean I don't light up an after dinner joint in a restaurant or something... But like smoking at the beach, or pretty much anywhere 'outside' that you'd drink alcohol, been there done that. The key is discretion.
You know, I always found the "gateway drug" argument hysterical. Purely because it places no responsibility on the people who take it upon themselves to start dabbling in other drugs.
Blah blah blah...It's not my fault that I decided to do lines off the bathroom vanity at that house party. It's not my fault that I decided dropping acid would be fairly complimentary to this concert. Weed made me do it! I'm such a victim of that foul herb!
Quite frankly, I could care less if someone wants to smoke ganja, just as long as they don't do it around me. Having an allergic reaction to marijuana is not fun to say the least.
I agree with Ivy. I don't care if you smoke in the same way I don't care if you drink. You can't get me drunk by drinking next to me though, so please be courteous by not smoking around me.
I agree with Ivy. I don't care if you smoke in the same way I don't care if you drink. You can't get me drunk by drinking next to me though, so please be courteous by not smoking around me.
That was one of my concerns... I don't know much about second hand smoke with marijuana and how it can affect a bystander... would it affect someone enough to show up on a drug test?
I agree with Ivy. I don't care if you smoke in the same way I don't care if you drink. You can't get me drunk by drinking next to me though, so please be courteous by not smoking around me.
That was one of my concerns... I don't know much about second hand smoke with marijuana and how it can affect a bystander... would it affect someone enough to show up on a drug test?
No, it just doesn't work that way. I could see MAYBE if you hotboxed a car with a fat blunt or something... MAYBE.
You know, I always found the "gateway drug" argument hysterical. Purely because it places no responsibility on the people who take it upon themselves to start dabbling in other drugs. Blah blah blah...It's not my fault that I decided to do lines off the bathroom vanity at that house party. It's not my fault that I decided dropping acid would be fairly complimentary to this concert. Weed made me do it! I'm such a victim of that foul herb!
I don't think anyone is saying that "weed made them do it" lol..
Edit: I also don't think it takes away from the user's responsibility... more of an argument that it opens you up to that lifestyle...
I agree with Ivy. I don't care if you smoke in the same way I don't care if you drink. You can't get me drunk by drinking next to me though, so please be courteous by not smoking around me.
That was one of my concerns... I don't know much about second hand smoke with marijuana and how it can affect a bystander... would it affect someone enough to show up on a drug test?
No, it just doesn't work that way.
You know this for sure? So I could sit in a room for a couple of hours with 5 guys smoking pot and you could assure me that if I were to take a drug test I would pass? Again, Idk and that's why Im asking...
No she's just talking about how people say weed is bad as it's a gateway drug cuz it leads to other drugs. Weed didn't make those people move onto harder drugs they chose to of their own accord.
I agree with Ivy. I don't care if you smoke in the same way I don't care if you drink. You can't get me drunk by drinking next to me though, so please be courteous by not smoking around me.
That was one of my concerns... I don't know much about second hand smoke with marijuana and how it can affect a bystander... would it affect someone enough to show up on a drug test?
No, it just doesn't work that way.
You know this for sure? So I could sit in a room for a couple of hours with 5 guys smoking pot and you could assure me that if I were to take a drug test I would pass? Again, Idk and that's why Im asking...
Yeah, for one I asked my PO when I was on probation and she said the test won't detect trace levels, so they can cut out the argument of "it wasn't me, I was sitting next to a guy smoking". Plus back in my hard partying days we had someone living with us that got drug tested on a couple of occasions and we were smoking A LOT around him constantly, he never came up dirty.
There are no negative side effects directly associated with marijuana usage or second-hand smoke given off from the smoking of marijuana.
Aside from that just being wrong on so many levels, their is a thing referred to as 'smoke allergies' that results from the breathing in (directly or indirectly) of smoke (from cigarettes/marij). It causes a massive immunological response that sends the persons body haywire. Ranging anywhere from over production of various chemicals (which can be damaging) all the way to full anaphylactic shock. Their are reports of ppl that even if they get just a whiff of second hand, have to be rushed to the hospital because of reactions so severe they can actually threaten their life. But i guess thats not negative...
Not sure this has been responded to or not but by your same conclusion, peanuts should be illegal because there are people that have extreme alergeric reaction to peanuts and can die from it by simply being in the same room as someone eating a peanut butter jelly sandwhich. Everyone agrees that a PB&J sandwhich is completely harmless but because some people are alergic to it, alot of schools have bans on all peanut products to protect kids however peanuts are not banned everywhere.
There is no reason why the law can be, in effect "Use it in your own home". Of course there are still going to be people that will smoke it wherever they want (just like alot of people who smoke pot today use it just about wherever they want) which is analygous (ya im sure that is spelt wrong) to a mom making her kid a sack lunch to take to school and made a PB&J without thinking.
It is time we use our brains and come to conclusions that help everyone. Personally, i dont want my tax dollars going towards imprisoning someone who smokes pot recreationally. People are going to smoke whether its illegal or not and on top of that, pot has less negative side effects than cigerettes and to some extent alcohol. Decrimilize it, tax it, and take those recreational pot users out of our already overcrowded prison/jail system.
I personally do not smoke (though i used to when i was in high school and in the last 5 years, i have smoked like 3 times) and it being legal will not want me to smoke anymore than i do now. We will have to regulate it and keep harsh fines/jail time to anyone who sells pot to "Underage" people (18 or 21) not allow it to be legal to use in public. It should be kept in a persons house. If companies still want to drug test for pot, let them.
I didn't think there were prison terms set up for recreational pot users... More like fines and probation maybe... unless you have over a certain amount on you...
I didn't think there were prison terms set up for recreational pot users... More like fines and probation maybe... unless you have over a certain amount on you...
My sister was jailed for, uhhh, a year or so for possession and intent to grow, but this is Arizona.
Also on probation for 3 years... 5 years? I don't remember.
I didn't think there were prison terms set up for recreational pot users... More like fines and probation maybe... unless you have over a certain amount on you...
My sister was jailed for, uhhh, a year or so for possession and intent to grow, but this is Arizona.
Also on probation for 3 years... 5 years? I don't remember.
I didn't think there were prison terms set up for recreational pot users... More like fines and probation maybe... unless you have over a certain amount on you...
My sister was jailed for, uhhh, a year or so for possession and intent to grow, but this is Arizona. Also on probation for 3 years... 5 years? I don't remember.
No, they just found a baggie with buds in it. I don't intend to ever smoke but it was ridiculous even to me.
ahh... I know here they usually only give you a slap on the wrist if you have only so much on you... if you have more than that amount though they can charge you with intent to sell...
I didn't think there were prison terms set up for recreational pot users... More like fines and probation maybe... unless you have over a certain amount on you...
My sister was jailed for, uhhh, a year or so for possession and intent to grow, but this is Arizona. Also on probation for 3 years... 5 years? I don't remember.
I was simply stating that our jail/prison systems are overcrowded. Legalizing pot would take away alot of this problem.
You were focusing on one very small point of my argument.
I didn't think there were prison terms set up for recreational pot users... More like fines and probation maybe... unless you have over a certain amount on you...
My sister was jailed for, uhhh, a year or so for possession and intent to grow, but this is Arizona. Also on probation for 3 years... 5 years? I don't remember.
I was simply stating that are jail/prison systems are overcrowded. Legalizing pot would take away alot of this problem.
Do you actually have the numbers to support that or is it just something you heard somewhere?
Oh, she was also hit with it as a felony, so add felon to her life resume. It sucks that a little slip-up like that pretty much ruined her life.
There are alot of good people who have this happened to them and it affects their life forever in a negative way simply because they had a plant on them.
Oh, she was also hit with it as a felony, so add felon to her life resume. It sucks that a little slip-up like that pretty much ruined her life.
I agree that it sucks and I feel for her and I'm not saying I agree with the sentance but on the other hand it's not like anyone doesn't know its illegal...
Funnily enough, the only reason she was even caught is because her boyfriend's brother was selling stolen goods. The actual FBI busted them. <__< Scary.
54% to 46% Colorado voters today legalized marijuana, the first state to compleatly decriminalize marijuana. We've had medical status for a few years now, but Colorado took it a step further today. It won't take effect until at the earliest March, or at the latest October 2013.
I don't smoke the stuff myself, (anymore that is) but I think this is a wonderful thing. It's always made more sense to me to regulate and tax something rather then to make it simply illegal. We all know how well prohibition worked...
And...
inb4 people say the feds still consider it illegal and will crack down on Colorado... :P
