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By volkom 2012-07-03 14:31:57
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Spookyfish89 said: »
Sure Volk, are you a 1h or 2h DH? Also keep me in mind if you find a decent 1h weapon with 900 or more DPS.

If they have IAS/Open Sockets people ask HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE prices for them...

2 handed user
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By Valefor.Monkeynutz 2012-07-03 15:35:20
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I can't sell anything on the gold AH anymore. It seems like virtually everyone playing has 'decent' gear and is only buying really good items. I've been trying to sell a 980 dps 2H axe with an open socket for a few days for like 50k and a variety of other things that should be decent for a little while, but certainly not pieces you keep for a long time. I usually list them 3 times and eventually it seems like a better use of my time to just vendor them and not have my AH full of sort of good gear that nobody wants in case I find something that actually will sell.

Of course most of the stuff that actually would sell I keep for myself, lol.
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By Ragnarok.Ashman 2012-07-03 15:43:17
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volkom said: »
Spookyfish89 said: »
Sure Volk, are you a 1h or 2h DH? Also keep me in mind if you find a decent 1h weapon with 900 or more DPS. If they have IAS/Open Sockets people ask HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE prices for them...
2 handed user

You could use a hand crossbow and a shield! *troooooooll*

seriously though for several levels there I used shield because it had crit rate. you can get 10% crit rate on a shield but you dont get the IAS of a quiver
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By Fenrir.Queazy 2012-07-03 16:07:55
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Quetzalcoatl.Darkakumaa said: »
Been running a tank wiz myself though I do see it prolly getting nerfed in the future. Has been getting pretty popular though WW barbs are still going so might last awhile. Other than a dps issue made it to act3 fairly easy with a 700dps weapon. Rage timer's are basically about the only thing that stop me. Short of getting boxed in and a terrible string of badluck on no crits. Which can be easily fixed with some upgrades just got little tired of farming.

I don't use hydra though. Went back to blades with deep cuts, WW and the explosion skill with the rune that does 3 bursts. It puts out more dps then using the 10% skill at least for me. I don't really kite though as most I see with hydra doing and or using meteor.

With that just need to redo gear. More everything :P. Life on hit, regen, crit hit % and damage, resist, armor, then dps (weapon and intel).


I run tank wiz too, my set up is:

diamond skin: crystal shell
force weapon
energy armor: prismatic
meteor or energy tornados (star pact or wicked wind rune)
Spec blades: deep cuts
frost nova: cold snap

I too am having trouble with DPS, I'm sitting around 15k now with sheild. I can tank fine but in Act3 my DPS is terribad. I think my problem is similar to most, my weapon only has about 680 dps on it.

On a side note, nothing sells on AH for me.

I found what I believe to be a great wiz weapon. 1 hand axe 110 int, 7% attack speed, 40% weapon damage 880 DPS, have it listed at 300k for a few days now and no one biting. If it had life on hit on it, it would add a straight 4k dps but having no LoH I cant use it

Not saying ur spec is bad or anything but just friendly ideas to think about.

Ive done alot of testing when it comes to these type of builds and this is the best i have found.

With this type of build ur main concern is procing CM and thus constant Diamond Sking/frost nova. Well WW will proc proc CM the most out of all spells we have atm. Its a toss up with Metoer IF u have the AP on crit to support Metoer. But with using WW as ur primary and simply investing in about 10 AP on crit i can tell u your dps sky rockets.

Here is why: With only 10 Ap on crit and stacking tornadoes, u never run out of AP and thus endless tornadoes. Now with using WW as ur primary u can then open up a slot, which can be used for magic weapon/sparkflint. I personally like sparkflint better for when u are forced to kite/Ranged packs. Its like a miniature Magic missle and its adds a flat 12% boost. My sparkflint actually crits for 9-10k so its actually is a nice little compainion guy.

My setup is

Diamond skin
Frost Nova
Energy Armor
Sparkflint/Archon depending on the Act im farming
Energy Twister(WW)
Hydra


Im not saying its the best but personally i think its the best for handling ALL packs including bosses without having to struggle. And i would admit im attached to venom hydra like crack.

My build isnt completely melee i guess because when the going gets rough i start to kite a bit til i can position the pack ontop of about 5 tornadoes.

Also a Tip i would say for increases ur dps for this build would be Crit damage, i find alot of times crit damage items without IAS or Crit chance is cheap, but seeing that ur build focuses around critting the crit damage is of exponential value. Not that its anything special but with my build sitting at about 22kdps i can kill butcher in under 10 secs and belial's second form in under 30 secs. but thats while mainting 100% hp and not moving out of fire/green death circles
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By Cerberus.Ddbone 2012-07-03 18:26:48
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Thanks for the advice, where are the biggest gains located for arcane on crit?
By volkom 2012-07-03 18:52:25
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wow i had the most shittiest run ever.
I litterally cleared every single zone and dungeon in act 1 inferno, and didn't even see a ilvl63 item drop. got over 79 rares and probably close to 150 blues
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-07-03 20:01:03
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volkom said: »
wow i had the most shittiest run ever.
I litterally cleared every single zone and dungeon in act 1 inferno, and didn't even see a ilvl63 item drop. got over 79 rares and probably close to 150 blues
Who is in charge over there? Tanaka?
By volkom 2012-07-03 20:04:58
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Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis said: »
volkom said: »
wow i had the most shittiest run ever.
I litterally cleared every single zone and dungeon in act 1 inferno, and didn't even see a ilvl63 item drop. got over 79 rares and probably close to 150 blues
Who is in charge over there? Tanaka?
felt like it was a dynamis run, with 0 100 pieces dropping
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-07-03 20:38:27
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Fenrir.Queazy said: »

Not saying ur spec is bad or anything but just friendly ideas to think about.

Ive done alot of testing when it comes to these type of builds and this is the best i have found.

With this type of build ur main concern is procing CM and thus constant Diamond Sking/frost nova. Well WW will proc proc CM the most out of all spells we have atm. Its a toss up with Metoer IF u have the AP on crit to support Metoer. But with using WW as ur primary and simply investing in about 10 AP on crit i can tell u your dps sky rockets.

Here is why: With only 10 Ap on crit and stacking tornadoes, u never run out of AP and thus endless tornadoes. Now with using WW as ur primary u can then open up a slot, which can be used for magic weapon/sparkflint. I personally like sparkflint better for when u are forced to kite/Ranged packs. Its like a miniature Magic missle and its adds a flat 12% boost. My sparkflint actually crits for 9-10k so its actually is a nice little compainion guy.

My setup is

Diamond skin
Frost Nova
Energy Armor
Sparkflint/Archon depending on the Act im farming
Energy Twister(WW)
Hydra


Im not saying its the best but personally i think its the best for handling ALL packs including bosses without having to struggle. And i would admit im attached to venom hydra like crack.

My build isnt completely melee i guess because when the going gets rough i start to kite a bit til i can position the pack ontop of about 5 tornadoes.

Also a Tip i would say for increases ur dps for this build would be Crit damage, i find alot of times crit damage items without IAS or Crit chance is cheap, but seeing that ur build focuses around critting the crit damage is of exponential value. Not that its anything special but with my build sitting at about 22kdps i can kill butcher in under 10 secs and belial's second form in under 30 secs. but thats while mainting 100% hp and not moving out of fire/green death circles
Just tried this setup:
I'm really linking this, opposed to the normal kite setup I run. Face tanking Elites while taking little to no damage seems really good. The 15% dmg boost from Bone Chill helps a lot.
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2012-07-03 20:49:12
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Diamond skin is pretty bad in inferno (unless it was changed recently) because it only blocks ~21k damage (which is nothing in inferno). Teleport is much more useful, especially in tandem with illusionist.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis 2012-07-03 20:54:09
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Phoenix.Kirana said: »
Diamond skin is pretty bad in inferno (unless it was changed recently) because it only blocks ~21k damage (which is nothing in inferno). Teleport is much more useful, especially in tandem with illusionist.
Negating 21k dmg is OP when you have your CoolDown almost always up. if it's not up, just stagger it with Frost Nova...
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By Valefor.Monkeynutz 2012-07-03 20:56:54
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I thought 21k damage was nothing in Inferno when I first started farming there and I had 38k hp and like 250 resists. It would block a hit and a half if I was lucky. Now with 23k hp and 775 resists Diamond Skin (Crystal Skin) works quite well.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Darkakumaa 2012-07-03 21:04:37
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Quetzalcoatl.Mitosis said: »
Phoenix.Kirana said: »
Diamond skin is pretty bad in inferno (unless it was changed recently) because it only blocks ~21k damage (which is nothing in inferno). Teleport is much more useful, especially in tandem with illusionist.
Negating 21k dmg is OP when you have your CoolDown almost always up. if it's not up, just stagger it with Frost Nova...

Basically what Mitosis said. You must not have tried it. Or you're thinking of the basic glass cannon build where things one shot you. In that case yes it wouldn't be as important compared to other options.

As a tank/melee wizard though nothing one shots when gear'd decently. Now stack that with almost a never ending supply of diamond skin and frost nova(Because of Critical Mass and crit hit build) and you can run into any pack and face tank until you've had your fill.
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By Fenrir.Queazy 2012-07-03 21:31:39
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Fenrir.Queazy said: »

Not saying ur spec is bad or anything but just friendly ideas to think about.

Ive done alot of testing when it comes to these type of builds and this is the best i have found.

With this type of build ur main concern is procing CM and thus constant Diamond Sking/frost nova. Well WW will proc proc CM the most out of all spells we have atm. Its a toss up with Metoer IF u have the AP on crit to support Metoer. But with using WW as ur primary and simply investing in about 10 AP on crit i can tell u your dps sky rockets.

Here is why: With only 10 Ap on crit and stacking tornadoes, u never run out of AP and thus endless tornadoes. Now with using WW as ur primary u can then open up a slot, which can be used for magic weapon/sparkflint. I personally like sparkflint better for when u are forced to kite/Ranged packs. Its like a miniature Magic missle and its adds a flat 12% boost. My sparkflint actually crits for 9-10k so its actually is a nice little compainion guy.

My setup is

Diamond skin
Frost Nova
Energy Armor
Sparkflint/Archon depending on the Act im farming
Energy Twister(WW)
Hydra


Im not saying its the best but personally i think its the best for handling ALL packs including bosses without having to struggle. And i would admit im attached to venom hydra like crack.

My build isnt completely melee i guess because when the going gets rough i start to kite a bit til i can position the pack ontop of about 5 tornadoes.

Also a Tip i would say for increases ur dps for this build would be Crit damage, i find alot of times crit damage items without IAS or Crit chance is cheap, but seeing that ur build focuses around critting the crit damage is of exponential value. Not that its anything special but with my build sitting at about 22kdps i can kill butcher in under 10 secs and belial's second form in under 30 secs. but thats while mainting 100% hp and not moving out of fire/green death circles
Just tried this setup:
I'm really linking this, opposed to the normal kite setup I run. Face tanking Elites while taking little to no damage seems really good. The 15% dmg boost from Bone Chill helps a lot.

Yeah that build is exactly what i run with the exception of evocation which is honestly not needed with CM procs. I usually switch between Galvanizing Armor and Glass Cannon depending on which act im farming. Can also run with the AP regeneration one if ur low on AP on crit.

To the question asked earlier, AP on crit comes from your Weapon,Helm,Source. With this build i would suggest using a shield until u pretty much outgear whatever Act yoru farming. I personally full time a shield seeing as i have a pretty good one for defense along with the 8.0 crit chance. And i cant find a good source with that much crit chance for under a bajillion gold.

Also u can interchange Diamond skin runes for the damage one or Frost Nova for the damage one if you have the gear to support it. Honestly in act I now with this build i go both Damage runes simply to make it faster and i still never go below 75% health if im running solo.

But seriously if at all possible replace Spectral blades with WW in any tank setup and never look back. I also really like this because u have 1 spot on your bar to interchange depending on the situation at hand, whether progressing or farming. You can either have Magic Weapon/Sparklin/Archon/ or Teleport(which i use for act 3)
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By Spookyfish89 2012-07-03 22:17:26
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Add me Volk, Blitz#1126 and I'll keep you and row in mind the next time I find a Hellion/Revenant/Exorcist.

Also add me if anyone wants to farm a2/3 inferno, I enjoy company on runs.
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By Bismarck.Rharmony 2012-07-04 02:39:38
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Wait, what the ***? They gave y0ou an offer of an annual pass and free Diablo 3 several months before Diablo 3 came out and you only get access to Diablo 3 if you have the annual subscription active?

Holy *** ***. Add Blizzard to the list of SHITTIEST GAME COMPANIES ON THE PLANET. I didn't even get gipped and that absolutely pisses me off.

The annual pass is just an agreement that you will keep paying for wow for a year. If you do, you get to play D3, and after the year is over, THEN you officially own that D3 copy forever. It was in plain ink on the annual pass thingy. Don't see how anyone could miss it.

And my Annual pass ends 10/22/12~
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By Cerberus.Ddbone 2012-07-04 07:46:05
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Tried out the build with hydra/WW as my only damage, was really nice, but I found it tough when mobs moved around a lot or there was only 1. I think tonight I'm going to drop hydra for spectral blades again, see how that works out.. Spam tornadoes when I get a pack that stays together, and use blades for single mobs and such.

I had trouble killing goblins with the WW only set up.

Got a head piece with AP on crit+10... its fugly, one of those stupid Shriner hat looking ones but oh well, having a million tornadoes up is sweet.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Darkakumaa 2012-07-04 07:58:12
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wts

*edit* Nvm sold for 20M =)
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By Fenrir.Queazy 2012-07-04 10:38:20
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Cerberus.Ddbone said: »
Tried out the build with hydra/WW as my only damage, was really nice, but I found it tough when mobs moved around a lot or there was only 1. I think tonight I'm going to drop hydra for spectral blades again, see how that works out.. Spam tornadoes when I get a pack that stays together, and use blades for single mobs and such.

I had trouble killing goblins with the WW only set up.

Got a head piece with AP on crit+10... its fugly, one of those stupid Shriner hat looking ones but oh well, having a million tornadoes up is sweet.


Yeah ur definetly going to have trouble killing gobs with this build. i just try to get them in a corner and hope for the best lol. IF ur not a fan out hydra i would maybe take Explosive blast. if u can support it with ur AP on crit. the 3 explosions works the best imo but short fuse also does well, up to the person's preference.

But using WW and spectral blades together kinda defeats the purpose of them. Its usually either WW or Spectral because they are essentially being used for the same purpose. And with WW its only really effective being spammed, if u only have 2-3 going at a time i would say just switch to metoer.

Also if anybody is tryna progress thru act III i have found a pretty boss build to stay alive. If ur resist are somewhat lacking like mine. I did from the start of act III to the Cydea last night and died only twice and those were due to arcane+firechain+draw in shaman pack.

Diamond Skin(crystal shell)
Frost Nova( cold snap)
Force Armor(Prismatic)
Mirror image(dupilicates-makes it 5 clones)
Energy Twister(WW)
Hydra(venom)

Blur
Galvanizing armor(This can be switched with whatever u like)
Critical Mass

Alot of ppl seem to hate on Mirror images and i did myself for a bit but man its really broken for this build. U pretty much have a 100% uptime on 5 clones so its like running n a 6 man party by urself. 7 if u add yoru follower. Its especially useful in the basement/bridge/towers where spac is more confined. not so muc in open field cuz they run around and dont exactly get aggro that much. But if ur looking for more survivability i would definetly give mirror images a chance, if your good at hiding behind them and just casting WW like a nut its really effective and fun. Its a bit hard to get used to because they dont exactly taunt u have to kinda walk mobs into their face but with CM the recast is like 1 second and i just recast them walk behind them let them tank for 1-2 secs and recast again.. Mobs hardly look at u unless they are teleporter.

My stats for this was:
32khp
22k damage
Crit chance 29%
Crit damage 102%
8.1k Armor (With enchantress)
920 Physical resist
750-800 Resist all
960 Life regen(with armor passive)
680 LoH

Also ghom was a joke, had to kite a little bit when poison started to stack up but didnt go under 50% health.If anybody wants to farm can add me Queezy#1655, my only friend that plays is Vayne lol
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By Asura.Odakasan 2012-07-04 15:31:59
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My hardcore character died when I turned around from my screen, assuming I was safe whereas the area was cleared of mobs.

Apparently wasn't.

***.



Not me, but that's virtually exactly how it happened.
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By Valefor.Eguil 2012-07-04 15:56:50
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I was wondering if u guys could help me out with my wiz and suggest me which gear i should upgrade first. I find that im gettin totally owned in Act3 (and in act2). Ive been farming act1 inferno since thats the only act i can solo easily.

My stats unbuff
20.5k HP
26k DPS (with Glass cannon)
32% crit chance
167% crit dmg
2.4k armor
400 ish Resist all
137 life regen
0 LoH
0 Arcane Power on crit

Here is a pic of my gear (yes i know im gimp >.<)
My Gear

For skills, ive been alternating between blizz + hydra and MM(seeker)+ Arcane Orb (celestial orb) + Arcane Dynamo.

Any suggestion/help would be greatly appreciated. Thnx

Edit: re-uploaded image since previous one was hard to read
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By Fenrir.Queazy 2012-07-04 21:11:29
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Valefor.Eguil said: »
I was wondering if u guys could help me out with my wiz and suggest me which gear i should upgrade first. I find that im gettin totally owned in Act3 (and in act2). Ive been farming act1 inferno since thats the only act i can solo easily.

My stats unbuff
20.5k HP
26k DPS (with Glass cannon)
32% crit chance
167% crit dmg
2.4k armor
400 ish Resist all
137 life regen
0 LoH
0 Arcane Power on crit

Here is a pic of my gear (yes i know im gimp >.<)
My Gear

For skills, ive been alternating between blizz + hydra and MM(seeker)+ Arcane Orb (celestial orb) + Arcane Dynamo.

Any suggestion/help would be greatly appreciated. Thnx

Edit: re-uploaded image since previous one was hard to read
Valefor.Eguil said: »
I was wondering if u guys could help me out with my wiz and suggest me which gear i should upgrade first. I find that im gettin totally owned in Act3 (and in act2). Ive been farming act1 inferno since thats the only act i can solo easily.

My stats unbuff
20.5k HP
26k DPS (with Glass cannon)
32% crit chance
167% crit dmg
2.4k armor
400 ish Resist all
137 life regen
0 LoH
0 Arcane Power on crit

Here is a pic of my gear (yes i know im gimp >.<)
My Gear

For skills, ive been alternating between blizz + hydra and MM(seeker)+ Arcane Orb (celestial orb) + Arcane Dynamo.

Any suggestion/help would be greatly appreciated. Thnx

Edit: re-uploaded image since previous one was hard to read

IF ur wanting to keep ur glass cannon/kite play style i would say invest in some more life regen. like 900 or so also with a glass cannon i would say work on ur dps before anything else, i run a tank build and i can get 26k damage just by changing from a shield to a source. From my expierence and seeing others play i would say the big things for ur damage is crit damage % since ur looking for high crits from arcane orb. Your crit chance looks fine but crit damage is a little low. I would say at least 200%, with 250-300% being ideal.


If ur not stuck on kiting with hydra/bliz i would highly recomment the Melee wiz, ive posted a few things about it in this thread, but im sure u can fine more extensive info on the actual d3 forums from Better players then me. ITs really OP atm and u will also have minimal repair cost because u hardly die to literally anything no matter what unless u just get unlucky or let yourself. Barring you dont have sufficient Resist/Armor.
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By Asura.Lilbuttons 2012-07-04 21:31:14
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Decided to link my Steam to D3.

1) Had trouble getting steam to pick up D3. Researched and found the solution.

2) In doing so, created a link on my desktop to start up through steam so that steam would pick it up.

3) Pinned desktop link to my taskbar for quick launch, tried to delete old Diablo 3 link to no avail. Spent about 30 minutes trying multiple fixes to get the icon off.

4) Decided to move entire Diablo 3 folder to trash can temporarily so that when I clicked the quick launch link it wouldn't find the destination and would allow me to delete it through prompt.

5) Forgot that I had it set so that anything moved to recycling bin is permanently deleted.

6) Now reinstalling Diablo 3....
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By Dantedmc 2012-07-04 22:34:46
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Really loving the melee wizard build, so much fun not having to kite. Instead of Hydra I'm Using Slow time with the +20% damage rune, it definitely seems more helpful in a party situation, though I want to know if hydra can crit and it counts for AP on crit gear / crit mass. For my passives I'm using Crit mass and blur of course, but I'm not sure what to use for a third (been using galvanizing ward or astral prescence).
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By Cerberus.Ddbone 2012-07-05 10:09:09
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To the best of my knowledge, hydra cannot proc CM or LoH.

I've linked his thread multiple times, but its so good, any melee wizards should take a quick read, I know it improved my build.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/forum/topic/6008451150

As for my progress:

Went back to meteor / spec blades / force weapon (was running hydra / tornadoes / sparkflint) build again, worked really well with my additional arcane on crit, it can be a bit dangerous at times compared to spawning 1000 tornadoes, but more fun for me so I'm going to stick to it for now. The tornadoes combo is probably bit better in terms of pure efficiency, but I like to have a primary attack to go for goblins or for packs that move around a lot.

As for traits, I use CM, Galvanizing wand, and a third is usually 1 of these 3 depending on situation (solo or party etc..)

conflaguration-10% bonus dmg after fire damage is applied(from meteor+ currently looking for a fire damage weapon)

paralysis-8% stun from my lightning weapon(procs from blades a lot)

Arcane dynamo-75% damage boost(spec blades will instantly raise you to 5/5 and then your first meteor in each volley will get the boost)

With dynamo, and getting into a good rhythm I can really take down a pack quick. 2-3 hits from blades then 2 meteors, 2-3 more blades, 2 more meteors, repeat. Throw in frost nova and skin when necessary.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2012-07-05 10:18:45
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Also, have a pretty big vit focus, since I'm trying not to die and ***, but any suggestions?

Lv 47 mnkers

Head: 55 str, 56 dex, 55 int, 59 vit, armor+120 with +11% hp in the socket

Body: 95 VIT with 3 dex stones

Shoulders: 59 dex, 48 vit 24 str

Amulet: 63 dex, 177 vit

Gloves: 60 str, 51 dex, 57 vit

Bracers: 44 dex, 32 int, 41 vit

Rings (identical): 6-12 DMG, 62 dex, 52 Vit

Belt: 72 str, 53 dex, 13 int, 72 vit

Legs: 49 str, 44 dex, 117 vit (with vit stone)

Feet: 32 str, 87 dex, 40 VIT

I'm lv 47, armor wise, everything but pants and belt are lv 44+ (witch are both lv 35, but with all the str on both, the armor levels are similar unless I find something with pretty much equal stats for 40-46, which either don't exist or are wayyyyyy overpriced)

Only listed main stats, the gear has other ***as well.

Weps are pretty much w/e i could find cheapest with decent DPS with vit/dex on them
 
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By volkom 2012-07-05 10:32:29
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Caitsith.Shiroi said: »
Look for weapons with Level requirement -~10 (Goes uo to 15) you could find a 400-500dps one for ~50k so you can blaze through hell in no time.

I wouldn't worry too much about gear until you reach 60.

i got a 2handed polearm, with like 900+ dps with a level requirement of like 52 or something like that
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By Cerberus.Ddbone 2012-07-05 10:46:41
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Like others said I'd wait till 60.

That said, I'm not mnk but for staying alive, I'd start looking for:

All resistance. This is massive at inferno levels, id recommend 1000-1100 is your aim for inferno? That's my goal for wiz, mnk could be different.

I also look for items with armor+ on them.

LoH. I think this is good for mnks too but not sure.

I also stacked attack speed, but it might be holding me back a bit at this point, since I have to sacrifice crit damage.
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