6 million copies is something I would take into consideration if such a large percentage of those copies weren't farmbot accounts. I mean think about it, the interviewed gold farmer was a small-time operation and he had 100 copies, and said he was in a network of at least 10,000 people. That knocks out 1,000,000* sales right there and that's just talking about the small fries.

Honestly I don't think that any number of "fanboys" would tip the balance on a meta-critic rating because like I said 90% of the time you get the super-no-lifer trolls from /v/ and ***who just want to *** with a games review score, you won't be able to out-review them even if you wanted to.

You clearly know next to nothing about what a game critic's schedule is like, if you did you would know that most critics don't even get afforded the opportunity to participate in a games end-game content, in this case Inferno. Most of them are lucky if they get to sit down with a game for more than a few days before they have to submit their reviews. This means that most critic reviews are going to be based on 1 or 2 playthroughs on Diablo which means they aren't going to see the frustration that players run into in Inferno.

When it boils down to it for me, I spent 40 hours getting to Inferno on my first character, then 26 hours on my second. That comes down to 66 hours right there, which is more than $1 per hour of entertainment and enjoyment not even counting the time I have spent farming Inferno. With prices in the entertainment industry these days you are going to be hard pressed to find entertainment at a price lower than $1 per hour (ESPECIALLY with a video game) so for my money the game was worth it. Add onto that the fact that I have already made $45 in the RMAH and the value increases even more.

Basing your own opinion of a video game on those of other users, especially anonymous en mass troll types, or even based on critic reviews is just lazy and borders on ignorance. If you really aren't willing to drop money on the game, play on a friends account or ask them for a friend code (lets you play up to about halfway through Act I) and try the game out for yourself.

There are more flaws in D3 than just the brick wall of Inferno, and some of these flaws cannot be patched. Map generator will need a complete rebuild of the engine. Anyway the game does not deserve a 90-95% rating when it is still in beta stage, I don't support the release now patch later ***. The game should've been push back another 6-12 months.

Lmao, dude I'm not even bothering to reply that long piece of nonsense writing, keep living in your own world. btw I spent over 200hrs of playtime and I still think the game is bad when taking into consideration that it had been a decade in the making, I'll give the game a 6 at best at current form. Maybe when 1.04 rolls out it'll be a much better game, there is no way it should be in the 9 range in beta form.

Your ignorance alone was not the intended target of my post, but also that of others.

>Doesn't like it but spends 200 hours playing it


I think it's time to step away from games for a bit and go outside (that magical place that is green... and bright!)


So basically what you are saying is because you don't like it... everyone else on the earth has to take your side and hate it also?

Pretty sure some people can look past some minor flaws and enjoy a game for what it is... (Here's a hint, it's a 4 letter words that starts with a 'G')

You can still make 'some' money at the RMAH at that level, however it's going to be extremely minimal. I'm talking like, 21 cents per sale (25 cents if you use battlenet money instead of paypal). So far I've made about $75 from bidding on items that are high level (from the gold AH) and tossing it up for like $2-$3 on the RMAH. Working out pretty well so far.

I made a bit too right when the RMAH came online but it's getting harder and harder to sell stuff now. I just undercut everyone horribly for Buyout prices -- well not everyone, just those people who posted their Stormshield's and Windforce at $250 each buyout and I put mine at $75/$50 >.>

I used some of the money made there to buy other items that were very cheap on RMAH but were worth a lot of gold (i.e. lower than the gold to $$$ rate), sold them on the gold AH, bought items worth more than the gold/cash ratio there, and then moved those to the RMAH and sold them again. Repeat. Lots of work some times but got my gold up to about 65 million right now, and RMAH around $85 which I'll probably send to my CC soon. I've seen people with way higher though :-(

At about $175 total now but sales came to a slow grind the other day on Softcore. May start farming hardcore again since stuff sells fast there since people die and start over so much.

I can safely farm the Butcher in Inferno without ever coming near death on hardcore. Just start the very last mission and build up lvl 5 Nef Valor before getting to the butcher. He has a almost 100% drop rate of 3-4X's rares and 1 set or legendary then. Most of the time that set/legendary slot gets another rare though. I'm afraid to try Act 2 inferno again, that's how my last HC char died :-( But people show amazing results farming Belial, and then the obvious further act bosses.

I'm really not sure how people can complain that this game is awful after playing long enough to get to Inferno. Most games aren't that long to begin with (though typically in games you're also not repeating the story 3 times). Lots of people bought it, lots of people seem to be playing, and I personally find it a lot of fun and have very few problems with it. Really my biggest problem is wallers building walls on top of my character such that I can't move (or use most attacks) and to some extent the ridiculous amount of health certain mobs have. Nothing major seems 'wrong' or 'broken' to me. Then again I'm looking at it as a $60 entertainment investment, and I've certainly spent more for a lot less.

i'ma play some d3 if anyone wants to join me Vayne#1661

Pretty much sums up the entire game. Everything is a lot of fun, up until Inferno. they really dropped the ball of this game, and everything about Inferno is stupid. It's not hard, it's cheap artificial difficulty that was poorly designed, and admitted to be untested.

Q4T

They put Hell at a difficulty where their Q&A team struggled, then nearly doubled the difficulty for inferno.

1) HOW THE *** DO YOU STRUGGLE IN HELL?!
2) Untested inferno... Really explains it all tbh

well also their Q/A team didn't have access to millions of players that offer up items on the AH which definetly makes all the difficulties(norm,nm,hell) cake.

You don't have to use the AH for Hell to be easy.

true, but having the AH makes it way easy tho.

Who knows maybe their q/a team did the entire game on a single play through with no farm.

Even then. If the team had an skill, they'd be fine.

i think its a bunch of 30 year old dudes who prefer to play wow instead of d3 that tested the game tbh

Okay so I'm going for my staff of herding. I am trying to find the liquid rainbow, but I have to be doing something wrong here. Been following the instructions on the diablo wiki, I started on act 2 part 7, go to the "Path to the Oasis," run to the little water path around the corner, and nothing is ever there.

I have restarted at least 50 times now. Is it because I decided to do it on normal at level 55 instead of hell? Am I going to the wrong place? D: Halp!

just bad luck, and the rainbow is not 100% drop from the chest. I got it on my *** 3rd chest -.-.

i dont think it should matter what difficulty u are on. maybe try hell then?

are you sure you are going to the right place? are you going all the way down?

man im glad im lucky on d3 lol

You playing now bbgurl?

Or just like when I was younger with a new game I would rush through content just to beat the game. Wasn't till about FF8 that I got into wanting to beat a completely(Getting every card, max levels, gear, etc). Which seemed to be their play style and I could see gear checks though smaller in scale having effect in Hell on elites etc. Though skill and knowledge of the maps could minimize that a lot if not completely.

I had gear checks in Hell myself but that wasn't because the mobs were hard it was more combating a crappy comp's graphic lag. Like being on barb and can't even keep 1 stack up on frenzy, being stuck in lazers, etc.

Basically comes down to the same stuff. Real players want a challenge and the common player wants to faceroll like the real player without the process of farming for hours/days, learning abilites, etc and companies trying to make a middle ground that often just pisses both sides off.

Reviews are jokes. Some better then others but it's still someone's or a group of someone's opinions. Chances of it affecting your choice to buy or play something is doubtful. Because I bet money diablo 3 is getting new customers everyday and will continue to do so.

This is where I have been heading. And I go into the little hole, but I don't like run to the wall or anything.

You can get all items in normal mode. You're just having a string a badluck. And like said even when you finally get the cave the chest isn't 100%. I've done it 4 times all in normal mode for all pieces.

*edit* That is the right place and the mobs(ghosts I think they were) will pop usually when you round the corner. Also if you want to speed it up if you have a friend willing have them try to spawn it as well and join if the do.

Guh... finally got the cave to spawn, and the chest wasn't even there.

Wrong, it was inferno, not hell. Please stop spreading misinformation, this thread has enough of it already.

They also pretty much hinted that inferno was to serve as an unofficial test server at the beginning of this games lifespan to quickly nerf cheesy builds/abilities like Smoke screen, force armor, mantra of healing, etc.

It doesn't really matter if inferno sucks right now, they're completely fixing it in 1.03. 1-59 of this game is a blast. I just wish that the AH, and RMAH did not exist. They kind of ruin the entire game for me.

My point still stands. They made a difficulty that was doubly the difficulty of what their Q/A team could handle, and didn't test it.

There are 2 instances of this hallway on the map, this one near the 'Path to the Oasis' WP, and one east-ish of the 'Dahlgur Oasis' WP. The NPC can spawn in either spot I believe.

They tested inferno, but not the version that we are playing. Blizzard took the hardest difficulty of inferno that was capable of being beaten that they had in their testing, and doubled it's difficulty. That's what we're playing at