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By volkom 2012-06-03 11:54:17
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »Yay for demon hunter passives with like 74k dps yeeeuh
>.> I want one of the guys I play with. His demon hunter has like 100k dps
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2012-06-03 13:16:21
Leviathan.Catnipthief said: »Oh jeez act IV :|
starting off with a boss fight, fun lol.
Already kicking my *** :p Ya that one is the most annoying because of the shadow things imo
yeah the shadow things are making it hard to keep my HP up on my Monk, I have a good bit stacked right now but he chews through it like it's nothing.
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By Gilgamesh.Rwgun 2012-06-03 13:47:01
Do your followers level up simultaneously? Or is it only when you have them with you?
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-06-03 14:02:12
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »Yay for demon hunter passives with like 74k dps yeeeuh
>.> I want one of the guys I play with. His demon hunter has like 100k dps
I don't think its actually 100k >.> most demon hunters rock Sharpshooter.. which throws off the dps
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-06-03 14:03:05
Do your followers level up simultaneously? Or is it only when you have them with you?
They all level up at the same time even if you don't bring them with you.
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By Gilgamesh.Rwgun 2012-06-03 14:07:06
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »Do your followers level up simultaneously? Or is it only when you have them with you?
They all level up at the same time even if you don't bring them with you.
Nice, thanks. I've asked this question in /general 4 times and nobody could bother an answer.
By volkom 2012-06-03 14:18:47
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »Leviathan.Phenomena said: »Yay for demon hunter passives with like 74k dps yeeeuh
>.> I want one of the guys I play with. His demon hunter has like 100k dps
I don't think its actually 100k >.> most demon hunters rock Sharpshooter.. which throws off the dps true. But the first shot is. His natural base is around 50k last I checked
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-06-03 14:23:35
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »Leviathan.Phenomena said: »Yay for demon hunter passives with like 74k dps yeeeuh
>.> I want one of the guys I play with. His demon hunter has like 100k dps
I don't think its actually 100k >.> most demon hunters rock Sharpshooter.. which throws off the dps true. But the first shot is. His natural base is around 50k last I checked
at 57 mines 30k.... with maxed SS bonus D: crappy 15k dps
By volkom 2012-06-03 14:33:48
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »Leviathan.Phenomena said: »Leviathan.Phenomena said: »Yay for demon hunter passives with like 74k dps yeeeuh
>.> I want one of the guys I play with. His demon hunter has like 100k dps
I don't think its actually 100k >.> most demon hunters rock Sharpshooter.. which throws off the dps true. But the first shot is. His natural base is around 50k last I checked
at 57 mines 30k.... with maxed SS bonus D: crappy 15k dps my natural is nearly 40k with ss bonus its little over 70k
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By Ragnarok.Kongming 2012-06-03 14:42:09
I don't think Blizzard knows what "temporarily" means.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-06-03 14:48:23
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »Leviathan.Phenomena said: »Yay for demon hunter passives with like 74k dps yeeeuh
>.> I want one of the guys I play with. His demon hunter has like 100k dps
I don't think its actually 100k >.> most demon hunters rock Sharpshooter.. which throws off the dps true. But the first shot is. His natural base is around 50k last I checked his damage is the same with or without sharpshooter. damage is a number that shows damage over time, hence why attack speed plays such a large component to its number.
sharpshooter is a garbage passive, it doesn't actually do anything except guarantee your first attack is a crit. after that your crit rate is the same as it normally would be.
I've actually geared improperly because i had sharpshooter up for a bit. Sharpshooter takes emphasis off crit hit rate and puts all emphasis on crit hit damage increase, which until you hit certain actual ratios is bad.
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2012-06-03 14:48:59
Silly/Stupid/dumb question but how do you calculate your base DPS? :|
*hides in corner* I know I should know this lol.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-06-03 14:50:27
if you're looking for the damage number it shows up on the inventory menu. true dps is much harder to calculate.
By volkom 2012-06-03 14:52:30
Sharpshooter isn't bad. Its pretty good when you're trying to find mobs or if you're kiting and can't fire a shot off. And your crit rate goes up constantly until you crit
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-06-03 14:57:28
Sounds like everybody is playing DH, is it that awesome? :p
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2012-06-03 14:57:56
I may make a DH after I finish monk, not sure.
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-06-03 15:01:38
Sounds like everybody is playing DH, is it that awesome? :p I just love rangers whatever I play, kinda a signature style for me, so I naturally went with that on Diablo too..and in fact I like it the most.
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By Cerberus.Kvazz 2012-06-03 15:12:06
Thinking I wanna make a Melee character to play aswell as my WD, would Monk or Barb be the better choice? (Inferno-wise)
By volkom 2012-06-03 15:17:03
Thinking I wanna make a Melee character to play aswell as my WD, would Monk or Barb be the better choice? (Inferno-wise) both are tanks really but I think barb becomes overall better with the right gear. But I like monks...for obvious reasons >_>
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-06-03 15:31:05
Sharpshooter isn't bad. Its pretty good when you're trying to find mobs or if you're kiting and can't fire a shot off. And your crit rate goes up constantly until you crit Solo it might be ok, i've almost exclusively partied on DH, but i might take cull the weak solo over sharpshooter. i'd have to do more reading.
theres definitely a fall off point for chr when it doesn't help at all.
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-06-03 15:33:15
DH seems to be the most OP to me (yeah yeah nothing is OP blah blah blah). I am basing this on Athene, if you don't know who he is he was the #1 geared etc DH in the game for a while before he showed his password on his livestream and got his ***jacked. I don't know that it would be because he has only played DH so far but his was so gross, he killed inferno butcher while looking away from the screen in 3 seconds.
Butcher run
"Hacked"
The guy is a huge douche apparently (I just learned about him after youtube linked me to him after watching a couple tutorial videos) and he takes gold donations from his fans, so he didn't really earn any of his gear either times (apparently he is on top again?).
That being said there is also the dude who soloed Inferno Diablo on Barb so who knows, maybe its just the good players who are OP lol.
By volkom 2012-06-03 15:37:45
Sharpshooter isn't bad. Its pretty good when you're trying to find mobs or if you're kiting and can't fire a shot off. And your crit rate goes up constantly until you crit Solo it might be ok, i've almost exclusively partied on DH, but i might take cull the weak solo over sharpshooter. i'd have to do more reading.
theres definitely a fall off point for chr when it doesn't help at all. well im geared for crit hit dmg
that's why I take ss. I think im nearly +200% bonus with it. Or something. I'll check when I get home.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-06-03 15:45:03
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »Leviathan.Phenomena said: »Yay for demon hunter passives with like 74k dps yeeeuh
>.> I want one of the guys I play with. His demon hunter has like 100k dps
I don't think its actually 100k >.> most demon hunters rock Sharpshooter.. which throws off the dps true. But the first shot is. His natural base is around 50k last I checked his damage is the same with or without sharpshooter. damage is a number that shows damage over time, hence why attack speed plays such a large component to its number.
sharpshooter is a garbage passive, it doesn't actually do anything except guarantee your first attack is a crit. after that your crit rate is the same as it normally would be.
I've actually geared improperly because i had sharpshooter up for a bit. Sharpshooter takes emphasis off crit hit rate and puts all emphasis on crit hit damage increase, which until you hit certain actual ratios is bad.
i don't think thou know how sharpshooter works... but anyways a dps of 50k is right. without ss is right... with it... idk how that math would go. since it steadily increases until you get a crit hit.
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2012-06-03 15:48:33
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »DH seems to be the most OP to me (yeah yeah nothing is OP blah blah blah). I am basing this on Athene, if you don't know who he is he was the #1 geared etc DH in the game for a while before he showed his password on his livestream and got his ***jacked. I don't know that it would be because he has only played DH so far but his was so gross, he killed inferno butcher while looking away from the screen in 3 seconds.
Butcher run
"Hacked"
The guy is a huge douche apparently (I just learned about him after youtube linked me to him after watching a couple tutorial videos) and he takes gold donations from his fans, so he didn't really earn any of his gear either times (apparently he is on top again?).
That being said there is also the dude who soloed Inferno Diablo on Barb so who knows, maybe its just the good players who are OP lol. I don't have any experience getting hacked, but couldn't he just get his account rolled back like everyone else?
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By Phoenix.Lillicarnage 2012-06-03 15:55:59
Phoenix.Lillicarnage said: »DH seems to be the most OP to me (yeah yeah nothing is OP blah blah blah). I am basing this on Athene, if you don't know who he is he was the #1 geared etc DH in the game for a while before he showed his password on his livestream and got his ***jacked. I don't know that it would be because he has only played DH so far but his was so gross, he killed inferno butcher while looking away from the screen in 3 seconds.
Butcher run
"Hacked"
The guy is a huge douche apparently (I just learned about him after youtube linked me to him after watching a couple tutorial videos) and he takes gold donations from his fans, so he didn't really earn any of his gear either times (apparently he is on top again?).
That being said there is also the dude who soloed Inferno Diablo on Barb so who knows, maybe its just the good players who are OP lol. I don't have any experience getting hacked, but couldn't he just get his account rolled back like everyone else?
Supposedly, I dunno, he seems to be doing his stream towards some sort of charity, it seems like his little incident drummed up a lot of fan support and donations.
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2012-06-03 15:58:04
Donations?
Only thing I would donate to him is a quick knee to the ***.
I can just see from the video he's an arrogant ego ***.
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By Leviathan.Catnipthief 2012-06-03 16:09:25
I think the auction house just ate like 5k from me :| I put a bit in and it said I would outbid, I went to collect the gold but it's just not there.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-06-03 17:14:25
its laggy.
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By Cerberus.Eugene 2012-06-03 17:22:49
Conclusions I'm getting: SS vs CTK is highly gear dependent and situation dependent.
Quote: So, what's the conclusion?You see higher gain from SS when:
1) you use a slow weapon, e.g. a 2hand xbow
2) you don't have to spam aoe and continuous attacks
3) you do a lot of kiting and only able to attack once every few seconds
4) you have at least 200% crit damanage bonus excluding SS
5) you love the opening burst damange
Your initial crit hit chance offers diminishing returns. The lower your base crit chance is, the more you gain from SS.
On the contrary, pick CTK when
1) you use a high attack speed bow or 1hand xbow
2) you spam a lot of aoe and continous dps, e.g. with tanks
3) you have low crit damange bonus
4) you don't care about opening burst damage.
Source
and these conclusions make sense conceptually to me
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By Phoenix.Sehachan 2012-06-03 17:24:33
Why in the world would you donate money to someone cause you think they're good at a videogame?
I made this thread for it to be about strategy, questions, helpful info, etc. for Diablo 3.
Continuing from this thread So..Diablo 3 anyone? ( Thanks Ravenlokk)
Links
Blizzard
DB3 Server Status
Blizzard DB3 site
Guides
G4 Guides
Segmentnext craft guide (links on page for other guides)
DB3 Wiki
PC Gamer Build Guide
Database/Tools
DB3 Database (Has info for quests, build tool, etc.)
UI Elective Mode Info
Let me know what sites etc. to add or any info
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