The Beast Within -- A Guide To Blue Mage
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The Beast Within -- A Guide to Blue Mage
if you use blu where it's practical and job change where it's not, the vast majority of those sets do nothing for you
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Leviathan.Comeatmebro said: » if you use blu where it's practical and job change where it's not, the vast majority of those sets do nothing for you This. Also I find it kinda funny that some people seems to count sets based on another with only 1-2 slots changed for a JA as a completely different set. geigei said: » Lol'd so hard at those sets. spellcast and then gearswap spoiled some people very hard.
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Phoenix.Capuchin said: » "less dependent on the support jobs than other DDs" BLU/DNC? OK, take a subjob that's going to gimp your DD output and show a parse where somebody beat you to prove BLU isn't the best DD! Yup, totally scientific! Interesting in one case you say less dependent on support jobs yet criticize so hard for /dnc. And if blu is as good as you're saying I shouldn't need /war to win should I? Phoenix.Capuchin said: » Ugh, some really bad use of parsing above... Asura.Midgitis said: » Bandwagon blu or career blu, both will/should get value out of this thread. Arguing over it is pissing in the wind. Creaucent Alazrin said: » Odinz said: » Draylo said: » lol BLU CAN HAVE a reason to have each set you just posted, enfeebling can be called MACC set. You really sound like you have no idea what you're talking about in this thread man. So you and Nightfire play in a world where BLU is expected to do all that at the same time? I think you guys are the ones who have no idea what you're talking about. The only job that plays like RDM is RDM. Perhaps you don't know enough about RDM. And this is what bandwagon blu's do. You will never know the troubles of building physical casting sets tailored to the spell. I have quite a few sets and I'm pretty sure I'm missing some. Physical casting max potency Physical casting acc physical casting Macc Magical casting macc magical casting MAB macc MAB max casting magical casting earth MAB magical casting light MAB magical casting dark MAB blue skill max fast cast TP melee max haste TP melee acc tp melee DW PDT/DT MDT/DT healing self healing others Conserve MP CDC Requiscat Expansion Savage CA BA enhancing magic skill for that /rdm idle idle w/ movement speed PDT w movement speed TH about 5 lockstyles LOL. Now if this was before ilvls you would also have. Physical casting STR Physical casting DEX Physical casting AGI Physical casting STR/DEX Physical casting STR/INT Physical Casting STR/VIT Physical casting STR/VIT/Defense So before you go around calling other people bad/no idea how to play blu look at your own blu and ask yourself do I have sets other than CDC/TP/MAB and if you dont STFU. We are playing blu to the maximum of its abilities and have sets to aid in that, are they needed for a lolbandwagonblu? no, do they make soloing/low manning things you cant easier? yes they do. How does one fit all those sets on one set of 20 macros? Asura.Foreverj said: » How does one fit all those sets on one set of 20 macros? One fits them all in a single text file. Takisan said: » Phoenix.Capuchin said: » "less dependent on the support jobs than other DDs" BLU/DNC? OK, take a subjob that's going to gimp your DD output and show a parse where somebody beat you to prove BLU isn't the best DD! Yup, totally scientific! Interesting in one case you say less dependent on support jobs yet criticize so hard for /dnc. And if blu is as good as you're saying I shouldn't need /war to win should I? Phoenix.Capuchin said: » Ugh, some really bad use of parsing above... Asura.Midgitis said: » Bandwagon blu or career blu, both will/should get value out of this thread. Arguing over it is pissing in the wind. Why would you post a parse of an Ambuscade fight? They take less than 2 minutes total to clear, and 30 seconds is spent not even engaging the mob while buffs are being applied at the start. By all means, I get your point that other jobs like AG SAM and AG THF can compete in damage with an AG BLU, but a 1 min 30 sec Ambuscade isnt very accurate considering the parse shifts drastically depending on who gets in that last WS. Bismarck.Lothoro said: » Takisan said: » Phoenix.Capuchin said: » "less dependent on the support jobs than other DDs" BLU/DNC? OK, take a subjob that's going to gimp your DD output and show a parse where somebody beat you to prove BLU isn't the best DD! Yup, totally scientific! Interesting in one case you say less dependent on support jobs yet criticize so hard for /dnc. And if blu is as good as you're saying I shouldn't need /war to win should I? Phoenix.Capuchin said: » Ugh, some really bad use of parsing above... Asura.Midgitis said: » Bandwagon blu or career blu, both will/should get value out of this thread. Arguing over it is pissing in the wind. Why would you post a parse of an Ambuscade fight? They take less than 2 minutes total to clear, and 30 seconds is spent not even engaging the mob while buffs are being applied at the start. By all means, I get your point that other jobs like AG SAM and AG THF can compete in damage with an AG BLU, but a 1 min 30 sec Ambuscade isnt very accurate considering the parse shifts drastically depending on who gets in that last WS. Coulda just do multiple runs. Asura.Foreverj said: » Creaucent Alazrin said: » Odinz said: » Draylo said: » lol BLU CAN HAVE a reason to have each set you just posted, enfeebling can be called MACC set. You really sound like you have no idea what you're talking about in this thread man. So you and Nightfire play in a world where BLU is expected to do all that at the same time? I think you guys are the ones who have no idea what you're talking about. The only job that plays like RDM is RDM. Perhaps you don't know enough about RDM. And this is what bandwagon blu's do. You will never know the troubles of building physical casting sets tailored to the spell. I have quite a few sets and I'm pretty sure I'm missing some. Physical casting max potency Physical casting acc physical casting Macc Magical casting macc magical casting MAB macc MAB max casting magical casting earth MAB magical casting light MAB magical casting dark MAB blue skill max fast cast TP melee max haste TP melee acc tp melee DW PDT/DT MDT/DT healing self healing others Conserve MP CDC Requiscat Expansion Savage CA BA enhancing magic skill for that /rdm idle idle w/ movement speed PDT w movement speed TH about 5 lockstyles LOL. Now if this was before ilvls you would also have. Physical casting STR Physical casting DEX Physical casting AGI Physical casting STR/DEX Physical casting STR/INT Physical Casting STR/VIT Physical casting STR/VIT/Defense So before you go around calling other people bad/no idea how to play blu look at your own blu and ask yourself do I have sets other than CDC/TP/MAB and if you dont STFU. We are playing blu to the maximum of its abilities and have sets to aid in that, are they needed for a lolbandwagonblu? no, do they make soloing/low manning things you cant easier? yes they do. How does one fit all those sets on one set of 20 macros? Easy and I play without Spellcast or w/e it is now. My blu macro book goes. Line 1) Buffimg spells with the gear set in them. Line 2) enfeebling spells and stun with macro 1 and 2 being for acc/macc sets line 3) attacking/healing spells line 4) tp, CDC and pdt line 5) other wses line 6) magical blu spells Leaves 4 lines spare and I can say I use every one of those sets I listed oh and missing WW set. Bahamut.Vinedrius said: » Don't need gearswap to use more than 20 sets.....just flip the page and group them together. I honestly don't know how blu's can't use all those sets most are pretty much needed.
Creaucent Alazrin said: » I honestly don't know how blu's can't use all those sets most are pretty much needed. Damn, i really need to make a conserve mp set, for when i haste myself as /rdm while doing nothing. Not to mention those physical sets 3k spell is so much better than a 30k cdc. Creaucent Alazrin said: » I honestly don't know how blu's can't use all those sets most are pretty much needed. I use the most essentials sets. CDC set, pdt set, magic accuracy set, blue skill, magic fruit set. Etc
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geigei said: » Creaucent Alazrin said: » I honestly don't know how blu's can't use all those sets most are pretty much needed. Damn, i really need to make a conserve mp set, for when i haste myself as /rdm while doing nothing. Not to mention those physical sets 3k spell is so much better than a 30k cdc. I think the better question would be why your physical set spell is only doing 3k. There are plenty of instances of when a physical spellset is useful, when in combination of Efflux and Chain Affinity. For example, if doing Salvage in Bhaflau Remnants, you can Chain Affinity Efflux Burst Affinity < CDC < Sinker Drill < Spectral Floe for some pretty nice damage, since the Cerberus builds physical or magical resistance over time. Afania said: » Bahamut.Vinedrius said: » Don't need gearswap to use more than 20 sets.....just flip the page and group them together. I am aware of that, but the question was for 20 macros. Anyway, do you realize how detrimental that would be to your overall performance? Unless you are crazy fast with your fingers and have near perfect eye-hand coordination, you would keep wasting WS damage for flipping through the macro sets considering how fast you get TP. I would rather make specific sets of 20 macros for different events rather than 6 lines of macros to cover every possible situation and honestly, even the former sounds pretty overwhelming to me, let alone the latter... Ragnarok.Afania said: » I mean how we flip to the next set of 20 macros without going to the menu? Bahamut.Vinedrius said: » Afania said: » Bahamut.Vinedrius said: » Don't need gearswap to use more than 20 sets.....just flip the page and group them together. I am aware of that, but the question was for 20 macros. Anyway, do you realize how detrimental that would be to your overall performance? Unless you are crazy fast with your fingers and have near perfect eye-hand coordination, you would keep wasting WS damage for flipping through the macro sets considering how fast you get TP. I would rather make specific sets of 20 macros for different events rather than 6 lines of macros to cover every possible situation and honestly, even the former sounds pretty overwhelming to me, let alone the latter... That's why I mentioned you could group them together to minimize performance lose. For example your tp and ws set could be on the same line because its being spammed in melee situations. Then you can have TH set in different lines because you don't need to use it after engage. Asura.Foreverj said: » I mean how we flip to the next set of 20 macros without going to the menu? You just push up or down when you turn on the macro interface. Every book has 10 lines of 10 macros. Asura.Foreverj said: » Ragnarok.Afania said: » I mean how we flip to the next set of 20 macros without going to the menu? Huh? Each book has more than 20 macros.... Asura.Foreverj said: » Ragnarok.Afania said: » I mean how we flip to the next set of 20 macros without going to the menu? Do you seriously don't know.... how can you play this game with using default macro AND not knowing you can flip pages.....
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Bahamut.Vinedrius said: » Asura.Foreverj said: » I mean how we flip to the next set of 20 macros without going to the menu? You just push up or down when you turn on the macro interface. Every book has 10 lines of 10 macros. Thanks for your help vine. Yea I seriously don't know how to go to a different page during battle. Too many times I ended up on a different page without knowing how I did it. You can even have a macro that puts you to the line you want you don't need to scroll up or down. So when haste is about to go down hit the buff line macro hit haste and vice versa. I stick the FC set in before the spell then have the macro change back to tp once the spell starts if it doesn't need blu skill or anything.
Asura.Alkk said: » So I just got samnuha tights with 1 ta away from being perfect, twice.. Is it still worth using them or should I stick with 4 ta herc/taeon Shameless bump on my Q as it got buried in the previous arguments Asura.Alkk said: » Asura.Alkk said: » So I just got samnuha tights with 1 ta away from being perfect, twice.. Is it still worth using them or should I stick with 4 ta herc/taeon Shameless bump on my Q as it got buried in the previous arguments Herc trouser has no dex or acc in there before augments and 3 less store tp. " I think" in this case even a samnuha that's 1 ta away from max still wins. If you play using a keyboard, you can also do shift+alt+# to instantly switch to that macro set. You obviously have to know which sets are which numbers by heart but it's very fast.
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Spicyryan said: Talked with Draylo for a minute (you know because he is always AFK) about phalanx and barrier tusk. Decided to make a chart to compare the values of the two. Highest obtainable enhancing is 190 with phalanx taeon for BLU/RDM. Every +10 skill is +1 phalanx damage reduction.  Feel free to double check my math. 190 enh with +15 augments should come out to -32 unless I am an idiot. Oh, and stop with the last couple pages "OP BLU", "Bandwagon BLU", "Look at my ambuscade parses with mspaint I uploaded twice over...BLU isn't OP", etc. Look like a buncha dopes. :P
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