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Blue Mage Dynamis Solo :: What spells to set?
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By Ophannus 2012-07-08 12:41:01
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Also can I get a reply regarding the Anrin Obi+Twilight Cape in Dynamis for Sanguine? Seems like it would be a straight 30% potency for Sanguine. The TP Bonus Moonshade might be better than MAB earring as it won't increase the damage but it'll enhance the amount healed. Wonder if TP Bonus+100 sword would be good offhand if you don't terribly need the evasion for DC/EP mobs, the+30% damage means you'll probably be cranking out 1.4k+ Sanguine Blades with a good STR/MND build and healing for at least 80-85% of that with the +125% TP bonus from offhand sword and earring. Could probably spam that when CA is down since that's pretty decent/consistant damage and means you might not even need to set Magic Fruit/Regeneration, more points for other things?

If you're cranking out 1400ish Sanguine's with Obi/Twilight and good gear and healing for 1100ish from it with TP Bonus offhand, wouldn't evasion be pretty much moot since you'd successfully be bloodtanking ***or would your damage/kill speed be that reduced? I mean how much does CDC do on a DC mob on average? I know it has spikes but if it's somehwere around 900-1800 damage, be better off spamming Sanguine then unless CA is up?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2012-07-08 12:56:13
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Wait, there's seriously a higher proc rate on DC mobs?
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-07-08 12:59:54
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Pretty sure it's random regardless of monsters level, however I see more drops come DC mobs as opposed to EP.
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By Ophannus 2012-07-08 18:01:21
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Quick Step lowers the mob's evasion.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-07-08 18:29:40
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Do people actually use evasion gear in dynamis? I'm not being sarcastic--it just seems like with sudden lunge that the mob would never have a chance to hit you anyway. I kill DCs with a RDM mule and a THF and unless we get links, I'll rarely get hit more than 0-1 times per fight.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-07-08 18:42:35
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If you're going to be wearing an offhand other than EVA it should at least be STR Shikargar. You shouldn't be taking enough damage in either case to necessitate a TP bonus sword... among other things. I'd be fairly disappointed if anyone even wasted the time to make the TP bonus sword.

It also shouldn't be a major source of your damage.
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By Ophannus 2012-07-08 19:09:43
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How about the notion of Twilight Cape/Anrin Obi inside Dynamis for Sanguine. Should beat all other options I'd think.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-07-08 19:10:32
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Should be a given
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-07-09 01:10:14
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Ophannus said: »
Quick Step lowers the mob's evasion.

My bad been a while heh
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2012-07-09 20:14:11
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Quetzalcoatl.Neisan said: »
In Dynamis-Tavnazia I have seen 5 coin drop from Nightmare Hornet, that was with Thf main however if it matters.

EDIT: was EP hornet, although I've heard it might be tav-only for that.

That makes sense then, I just know for a fact that 5 can't drop from DC nightmare mobs in the other CoP zones.
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By Bahamut.Glizdus 2012-07-11 12:07:16
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can someone explain how exactly it is done on BLU?
how to manage with MP?
what offensive spells to use?

how exactly pull looks like from pulling to killing

couldn't find any video on net :(
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By Bahamut.Megrim 2012-07-11 12:24:39
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I'm not opposed to many ppls suggestions i think they are great

are you farming dreamworld if so Set some TH it may not seem useful but trust me your coin output will change if you add TH to your blu spells maximize your DD ability and your subbing DNC so curing shouldnt be an issue.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Krylon 2012-07-11 12:34:25
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Bahamut.Glizdus said: »
can someone explain how exactly it is done on BLU?
how to manage with MP?
what offensive spells to use?

how exactly pull looks like from pulling to killing

couldn't find any video on net :(

Don't have a video but basically --

Pull mob
Sudden Lunge
Try to proc with box step/violent flourish
Delta Thrust regardless of whether or not your procced

This is where it splits for me:
1.) If procced on first try: finish with heavy strike/vanity dive after your delta thrust

or

2a.) If it didn't proc, just swing until steps/flourish are ready again
2b.) Try to proc again
2c.) By this time it should be almost dead, Heavy Strike to finish it off

CA and Efflux with Heavy Strike as often as possible. Don't bother skillchaining unless you are in a real jam.

Keep up Battery Charge/Animating Wail/Haste Samba 100%. Switch to idle refresh gear between pulls.

Cure with Sanguine Blade.

Thats about it. If you're doing it right, between sudden lunge/violent flourish the monster should rarely even be doing anything to you.
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By Bahamut.Glizdus 2012-07-11 12:38:02
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cool, thnx, but what about MP?
how to minimize downtime due to lack of MP?
or who to fight w/o any downtime?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Krylon 2012-07-11 12:41:27
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If you are keeping up Battery Charge and mostly only using Delta Thrust/Heavy Strike/Vanity Dive you shouldn't really have any MP problems.

Do you have Mavi Mintan +2?

Battery Charge - 3 mp/tic
Mavi Body + 2 - 2 mp/tic
Auto Refresh Job Trait From Spells - 1 mp/tic

Should have at least 6 mp/tic refresh. If I ever run dangerously low on MP I'll fight for a few minutes in Serpentes Cuffs/Boots and Wivre Hairpin for 8 mp/tic until I'm back where I am comfortable.

What mobs are you fighting in which zones?

Here is what I do but there are probably even better options:

Qufim - Bombs/Raptors/Krakens
Buburimu - Efts/Dhalmels/Birds
Valkrum - Treants/Hippogryphs/Flies
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By Bahamut.Glizdus 2012-07-11 13:21:28
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Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: »
Do you have Mavi Mintan +2?

missing 2 body seals lol. so far i was too lazy to get them. got the items for +2 tho.

thanx for the tips. much appreciate it :)
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By Bahamut.Glizdus 2012-07-11 13:57:56
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i'd like to ask one more thing.
gear?
i have 3/5 AF3+2 (hands, legs, feet) and AF3+1 head. rest of the gear are based on Charged Whisker build set :)
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By Quetzalcoatl.Krylon 2012-07-11 14:13:52
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These are courtesy Prothescar's "The Beast Within" sticky post and are pretty much the Optimal sets...


TP:



Spell Casting:




Though if you don't really have much of any of that, you can go with a watered down version. Mine is nowhere near that good.

What I currently use - again my set needs a lot of work/neo-nyzul stuff/some VW stuff but if you are working with similar gear this works for you.

TP:




I know you don't have body +2 but use Mirage Jubbah if you have that.

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Don't TP in Mavi Hands/Feet. Ever =p Don't do anything in Mavi Hands/Feet unless its Sanguine/CW/Magical Related ^_^
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By Bahamut.Glizdus 2012-07-14 14:22:40
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how the heck you survive in there w/o Occultatnio? :O
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By Sylph.Breakdown 2012-07-14 18:19:52
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Why Magic Fruit instead of Embrace?
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2012-07-14 18:32:17
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Sylph.Breakdown said: »
Why Magic Fruit instead of Embrace?


Embrace is not as MP efficient as fruit.
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-07-14 18:52:21
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Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: »
These are courtesy Prothescar's "The Beast Within" sticky post and are pretty much the Optimal sets...


TP:



Spell Casting:




Though if you don't really have much of any of that, you can go with a watered down version. Mine is nowhere near that good.

What I currently use - again my set needs a lot of work/neo-nyzul stuff/some VW stuff but if you are working with similar gear this works for you.

TP:




I know you don't have body +2 but use Mirage Jubbah if you have that.

Spells:




Don't TP in Mavi Hands/Feet. Ever =p Don't do anything in Mavi Hands/Feet unless its Sanguine/CW/Magical Related ^_^

Probably wouldn't want to use thaumas coat over a refresh body in dynamis. I don't anyway.

I use delta thrust + heavy strike + benthic for my 3 dd spells. Benthic typhoon seems more beneficial to me than vanity dive because of the defense down effect. Don't discount empty thrash either. It's only 33 MP and tends to around 900-1000 damage on DC targets. Plus you'll probably already have it set for double attack trait, so might as well put it to some use.
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By Ragnarok.Sekundes 2012-07-14 19:16:10
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Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Sylph.Breakdown said: »
Why Magic Fruit instead of Embrace?


Embrace is not as MP efficient as fruit.
Fruit is also faster, has a much shorter recast time, doesn't lock you up and is a point cheaper to set. Only downside to the exchange is that embrace has 2 str on it.
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By sazael 2012-07-15 00:10:50
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Quetzalcoatl.Krylon said: »
Bahamut.Glizdus said: »
can someone explain how exactly it is done on BLU?
how to manage with MP?
what offensive spells to use?

how exactly pull looks like from pulling to killing

couldn't find any video on net :(

Don't have a video but basically --

Pull mob
Sudden Lunge
Try to proc with box step/violent flourish
Delta Thrust regardless of whether or not your procced

This is where it splits for me:
1.) If procced on first try: finish with heavy strike/vanity dive after your delta thrust

or

2a.) If it didn't proc, just swing until steps/flourish are ready again
2b.) Try to proc again
2c.) By this time it should be almost dead, Heavy Strike to finish it off

CA and Efflux with Heavy Strike as often as possible. Don't bother skillchaining unless you are in a real jam.

Keep up Battery Charge/Animating Wail/Haste Samba 100%. Switch to idle refresh gear between pulls.

Cure with Sanguine Blade.

Thats about it. If you're doing it right, between sudden lunge/violent flourish the monster should rarely even be doing anything to you.

I think I need to try this. I have basically been melee'ing the mob down spamming JA's until proc, then smite. Guess I was doing it completely wrong.

Also, think the TH sash is worth the time to farm? Any advice to get this thing? So many hours gone already trying for it lol.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2012-07-15 03:53:37
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Bahamut.Glizdus said: »
how the heck you survive in there w/o Occultatnio? :O

On EP mob is really easy to survive without sudden lunge/Occultation, full DD TP set without any hybrid eva still has the ability to cap evasion, or at least close to cap. Occu has 9 shadows, costs 138 MP, so if mob from each hits less than 110 dmg a hit it's not worth the MP to cast it, not to mention many mob TP move wipes it, may as well just rely in regeneration/overflow TP to keep you alive. Sudden lunge also isn't needed for EP, but will need it for DC.

On DC just sudden lunge and keep it stun locked. And TP in full DD set, only swap when you link/in shitty moment etc.

Either way, on EP you shouldn't need any evasion sword offhand/evasion gear/defensive spells to stay alive unless you link.
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By dalmat 2012-07-18 19:00:24
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Ok i been reading though some of the comments and everyone goes blu/dnc but what is the true purpose of going /dnc if all you do is use sanguine for heals?
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2012-07-18 19:00:46
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JA procs..
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By dalmat 2012-07-18 19:01:24
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:D thanks and that was quick O-o
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By Carbuncle.Vilkacis 2013-02-02 05:31:03
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I've been trying to get my dynamis THF feet. These drop in Jeuno and Qufim, so I decided to give Jeuno a try because it's a small area, has tons of NMs for the remote possibility of a 100-coin and I can get the feet AND the forgotten steps needed for it.

I've only done Dyna on rare occasions for some gil and for the wins, in order to get my THF hands for TH.
Now I discovered that my BLU can do so much more than it could previously, simply by adding an EVA set. After reading a couple of threads about it, I gave it a shot in Dyna Jeuno. Over confident, using a brand new spell set, new gear and new macros, I died trying to kill the first statue by the bridge. I failed to one-shot it with Efflux and Heavy Strike. LInked a bunch of mobs, including NMs and couldn't find my Sleep spell in the new macro book and died very quickly. Got up, rested, reapplied RR and tried again. This time I tried Efflux+CA then Heavy Strike. Still didn't one-shot the statue. Had to thrown in a Delta Thrust to kill it. Aggroed some Gobs and an NM, dealt with relatively easy by sleeping the adds.

I don't have an Almace. My best sword is a STR Shikargar that I have as main and the Isador off-hand. I'm sure that my lower dmg compared to the big guys in this thread is a gear related problem.

These are my sets:
Hybrid TP/EVA set


Healing set


And my EVA set


I'm still not swapping in specific gear for specific spells and moves. I tried it with Magic Fruit and the difference was not significant and since I'm kind of struggling with the inventory space I'm going one little step at a time. I tried the healing set wearing the Mavi bazubands instead of the newly acquired Patrician's Cuffs. I need to try it out again.

Overall I'm just trying to get a hold of the whole Dynamis solo farming as BLU in the first place, whilst trying to enter the world of gear swapping and different gear sets.

I do love my BLU and it's by far the most fun job I play in the game. I also realize that it's one of the most powerful jobs due to its versatility with the spell sets and job traits.

I'll be following any BLU related threads around here to try and learn more about it. Do you suggest any good BLU threads apart from the ones already shown above?

BLU POWER!
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By Bismarck.Helel 2013-02-02 06:29:34
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Just in case you're not aware, one-shotting a statue does not prevent links. It's beneficial if no mobs are facing the statue, then you can reapply jig, but otherwise, you might as well open with dream flower, kill stat, and then log off, if it's a really congested area.