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Guttler, did i just waste my time?
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 Fenrir.Minjo
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-03-05 21:55:59
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Do we have MDB, INT, and any other damage reductions for Fafnir? I want to say yes, because of how much of an epeen target it was at 75.
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By Raborn 2012-03-05 21:57:43
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Oh wait, Cloudsplitter has no fINT term? WTF? That makes it even more trivial.

Mmmmmm
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-05 21:57:52
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INT won't matter, Cloudsplitter's damage formula leaves out fINT.
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By Fenrir.Jinjo 2012-03-05 21:59:48
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Raborn said: »
Edit: Let's assume all are done at 100 TP.
Don't forget to include Fencer.

Should a BST be single-wielding on Fafnir?
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-03-05 21:59:56
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While Auster and/or Asym do gradeschool math for you, just out of curiosity, do you simply not believe in the pDIF, cRatio, and fSTR equations that have been fine-tuned for the past several years?
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-03-05 22:00:42
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Math is wizardry and wizardry is not ethical.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-03-05 22:08:23
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Valefor.Prothescar said: »
Math is wizardry and wizardry is not ethical.

Fact.
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By missdivine 2012-03-05 22:34:01
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Some people here try so hard to be intellectual by posting stuff with fancy words , yet they don't contribute any information or any help at all.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-05 22:40:22
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missdivine said: »
Some people here try so hard to be intellectual by posting stuff with fancy words , yet they don't contribute any information or any help at all.

I'm assuming you think this is a helpful post?
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-03-05 22:46:59
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
missdivine said: »
Some people here try so hard to be intellectual by posting stuff with fancy words , yet they don't contribute any information or any help at all.

I'm assuming you think this is a helpful post?

Is any post helpful here? I mean in the end we are all going to die anyways. so whats the point...
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-03-05 22:59:07
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Josiahkf said: »
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So I just finished Guttler, did the trials up to lvl 85 for it and in full Dex gear, about +84 in gear, im doing a solid 1.5k Onslaught and a 3.6k Ruinator (in the same Dex gear). Did i just waste my time? or is there something im missing here?
Congrats on your relic and since it seems like you might not know this, remember it has a hidden effect of doing 2.5x dmg at any time. Unlike empy weapons your hidden dmg+ can proc on any weaponskill as well so you're set for Ruinator. A waste of time would be my current empys, not your guttler lol


Are you saying his 2.5x dmg can proc on ws?
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By Bismarck.Helel 2012-03-05 22:59:45
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Josiahkf said: »
Bahamut.Haublice said: »
So I just finished Guttler, did the trials up to lvl 85 for it and in full Dex gear, about +84 in gear, im doing a solid 1.5k Onslaught and a 3.6k Ruinator (in the same Dex gear). Did i just waste my time? or is there something im missing here?
Congrats on your relic and since it seems like you might not know this, remember it has a hidden effect of doing 2.5x dmg at any time. Unlike empy weapons your hidden dmg+ can proc on any weaponskill as well so you're set for Ruinator. A waste of time would be my current empys, not your guttler lol

The hidden effect cannot proc on weapon skills.
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-05 23:01:22
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Eet doez not. Zat eez for zure.
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By Fenrir.Minjo 2012-03-05 23:04:11
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Zee Guttler, eet duz nussing
 
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-05 23:06:26
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OA2-3 on mythics can proc once on WS.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-03-05 23:06:52
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Mythic OA2-3* AM3 can proc once on WS.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-03-05 23:08:21
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Mythic AM3 can proc once on WS.

I thought it was only certain mythics? no?
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-05 23:10:54
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It doesn't proc on Trueflight, Atonement, Leaden Salute, Garland of Bliss, Vidohunir, Omniscience, or Primal Rend.

These WS all have something in common.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-03-05 23:11:07
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Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Mythic AM3 can proc once on WS.

I thought it was only certain mythics? no?
Sylow's post was correct, I forgot Gastraphetes and Death Penalty have ODD/OTD instead of OA2-3. As far as I know those weapons can't proc on WS.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2012-03-05 23:12:33
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
It doesn't proc on Trueflight, Atonement, Leaden Salute, Garland of Bliss, Vidohunir, Omniscience, or Primal Rend.

These WS all have something in common.
It'll proc on non-mythic WS as well, so technically only the /ra mythics are excluded as I mentioned above.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-03-05 23:12:58
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Mythic AM3 can proc once on WS.

I thought it was only certain mythics? no?
Sylow's post was correct, I forgot Gastraphetes and Death Penalty have ODD/OTD instead of OA2-3. As far as I know those weapons can't proc on WS.


Ya. But do they proc on barrage? i would assume so but would like to know.

Edit: Slug Shot would of raped if ODD/OTD worked on WS >.>
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-05 23:13:41
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Well, my post is still true! It still won't proc on those WS!
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-05 23:14:33
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Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Mythic AM3 can proc once on WS.

I thought it was only certain mythics? no?
Sylow's post was correct, I forgot Gastraphetes and Death Penalty have ODD/OTD instead of OA2-3. As far as I know those weapons can't proc on WS.


Ya. But do they proc on barrage? i would assume so but would like to know.

Edit: Slug Shot would of raped if ODD/OTD worked on WS >.>

Uh, I would assume they proc on Barrage, but can't say for sure.
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-03-05 23:16:32
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Leviathan.Phenomena said: »
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Mythic AM3 can proc once on WS.

I thought it was only certain mythics? no?
Sylow's post was correct, I forgot Gastraphetes and Death Penalty have ODD/OTD instead of OA2-3. As far as I know those weapons can't proc on WS.


Ya. But do they proc on barrage? i would assume so but would like to know.

Edit: Slug Shot would of raped if ODD/OTD worked on WS >.>


Uh, I would assume they proc on Barrage, but can't say for sure.

Wish upbeat would of tested it when he tested WS =/
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By Bismarck.Sylow 2012-03-05 23:20:16
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Does Empyrean ODD proc on Barrage?
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By Leviathan.Phenomena 2012-03-05 23:21:12
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Does Empyrean ODD proc on Barrage?

.....Idk >.>
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By Sylph.Kimble 2012-03-05 23:23:41
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Bismarck.Sylow said: »
Does Empyrean ODD proc on Barrage?

I know that relic does. Id hope Empyrean can.
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By Bismarck.Xzeikx 2012-03-05 23:42:12
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Ramuh.Austar said: »
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Probably because the only known person with one doesn't gear swap.

right...
Well if that's true, it's good to hear you've improved.

I wish you would improve that annoyance of a avatar
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