[dev1048] Assault: Nyzul Isle Uncharted Region

we do know bosses drop purses, cotton, and seems like 50% or something. you're also not hitting 3-4 bosses a run lol...i suggest you read how the new nyzul works. it is not easier than salvage. you need 6 99s, you need 3 for salvage (which can be dual/tri boxed). 1 neo-nyzul run a day, 1 salvage a day. salvage ssr spam yields 70-80 alex on average.

it's hardly better lol.

Screw this event.

I very much know how it works. Been doing it fairly frequently since it was introduced. Today alone one one run we got 3 bosses, and only reached 78. Only 2 dropped purses. And never did I say it was better then salvage for farming. I simply said that it was an alternative, and if fixes are introduced it will certainly push more Alex into the market.

Should just be a bonus honestly, reserve one of your tags to get points to do salvage once a day.

Overall I've just really been enjoying this event. It pushes everyone to do their best, and pushes everyone to exceed their limits. The rewards may not be that amazing but it's certainy peaked my interest at the time. I am sure that high will diminish in time though.

you said relatively easy alternative. this is hardly so. if you haven't noticed either, it doesn't look like they'll be doing any fixes for a long, long time.

the event is already dying. it's barely putting any alex into the market. if you don't remember, you need 30,000 alexandrite. i actually have completed 30,000 alexandrite, it's more than you think.

Maybe it's just me but Nyzul should be dropping singles off every mob (1-4) like Dynamis currency with cottons off NMs and Linens off HNMs.

4 days since launch and this event is DOA on my server. If you don't get to a boss floor and drops you've completely wasted your time, the number of Alex to split across 6 people atm is freakin pathetic and tags take 24hrs to recharge.

Think people need to first stop thinking this event is going to be equal, or 50% of Salvage. You do salvage to get alex, you do this to get the gear and alex on the side.

Did SE make nyzul work? Of course not, they crashed and burned once again. Just pointing out that they aren't going to make this an "alternative" from salvage when you should be doing both if you want alex.

gl getting 5 other people to neo-nyzul with you for a lol-worthy amount of alexandrite.

I don't think alex will be fixed until they redo salvage. This was the equivalent to adding ancient currency to Union spoils.

Wow, that really is the perfect analogy, actually. Wish more 100's dropped in campaign, honestly lol.

All or nothing events in this era is just an asinine idea.

Voidwatch for all its shitty logs/ores at the least gives you a TON of EXP/cruor for the run and can be repeatedly nigh infinitely so long as you're willing to buy dust. Alexandrite could have been at the least a consolation prize for failure or an added boon for success but as it stands if you fail to get drops off a boss floor you've wasted everyone's time and you've got 24hrs to brood.

Outside the hardcore circles this event is going to be dead. A pity because the original Nyzul was one of the most casual get up and go events in XI for a long time.

SE is trying way too hard to take the game backwards. 24hr timer alone should allow for alot of Alex to flow given one person needs 30000 to finish.

People should learn what union registration is...
I saw many battle with nobody in Union... So no drop.

kalila have u tried it.. the runs we did were some of the funnest things ive done in a long time.. its a challenge and you need to be decent, have a good organized group, and be quick.. I think new nyzle is great... i cant wait to do more of it

At this rate, I'm not sure enough people will even be around for the new salvage(of course I kid--there will always be a group of people on this game that find something to do with....something).

I know I am beating a dead horse of what has been previously stated--but I have to echo two main gripes.
1) The event is so incredibly underwhelming in terms of feeling like you have accomplished anything at all if you do not kill a floor 80/100 boss. With old school dynamis, you generally got a handful of currency even if you didn't get the AF you were after, with limbus you still got the chip to use toward proto-ultima/omega. In short, there is a real lack of long term accomplishment/goals. As many have said, it really just is another version of Voidwatch spray and pray...and hope you get what you are after.
2) The second most disappointing aspect to me is the blatant lack of effort that went into this. SE increased the level of the mobs, swapped out some NM's, and made every armor slot/armor set drop on each boss floor (in its respective NQ/+1/+2/+3/HQ form). Hell, they could have made the new nyzul out to be a sort of "maze" where you go left/right/up/down across different paths to eventually figure out how to target different pieces of armor.

It just makes me sad that this was hyped up so much, but honestly brings less to the table than a new chapter of voidwatch will.

This is absolutely nothing like Voidwatch, with good players. We've been doing the event for a few days(test server doesn't count- nobody tests this kind of thing), and we've already got people hitting 99. Floor 80 drops are going to become rather commonplace among upper echelon players, and with a bit of luck, those same players will occasionally get something from 100.

Can it be frustrating that there's a luck element? Sure, but without the RNG peaking in to say hello at some point in distribution, no event can be a complete success. We finally have content entirely intolerant of the lackluster majority, and that's long, long overdue.

One group, one, has reached floor 99 and has reported it out of everyone who's collectively working on it across BG, FFXIAH, and the OF. That pretty much falls in line with the statistic of about 3.5% To hit floor 100 that Byrth drew up.

Plus, They almost certainly used Flee tools, Not really a prime example. Not undermining their efforts at all, Just stating its something that was achieved through 3pt.

Also, there probably isn't a way to make an event a complete success, Offline or Online games, But when it comes to recent FFXI events, Theres a vast room for improvement. Its not even about being a complete success, FFXI Events hang somewhere between "Getting your Toe-Nails ripped out" and "Taking a Dart to the Eye".

I love how everyone just jumps to flee hacks because we had some successful runs. hilarious. ;3 meow~

Collectively across BG, FFXIAH, and OF? A very small portion of BG has reported their trials with it, and XIAH and OF are largely made up of the mediocre majority. The one party that did make it up had a less than optimal setup and a few members using fillmode. Strategies will improve, likelihood will increase. Will FL100 ever be even remotely guaranteed? Probably not, but that isn't what I suggested, either.

SSR does not yield 150 alex on average, don't inflate your numbers and learn what the word average means.

if you get a linen boss purse. if you don't, which you shouldn't expect, you get 70-80 clearing everything. i guarantee you i've done more SSR than you have.

SSR is pretty much the only salvage I do, and around 80 average sounds about right. I have gone 1/20 on linens before as well.

SE definitely needs to fix the alexandrite issue, I seriously doubt there's even 30k in the market on fenrir right now. making cottons drop linen amounts and linens drop 99 guaranteed, and making all salvage NMs 100%, would go a very long way. that would still require months of work.

I'm quite the advocate of clipper, but I do think that they might be monitoring for this kind of thing. An instanced event in which your speed is almost directly proportionate to you winning sounds like an easy trap. Could be another salvage ban like situation if it got enough attention.

I hope not. people who use cheats in nyzul are terrible!

Clipper > 100 floor > woot > clipper > jail > banned.

Had to lol at this.

SSR (which I do every single day) is no where near 150~ alex without a linen purse.The reason SSR is the standard is because its a consistant 70-80 pieces because of 100% drop purses + average drop rate from all the gears/ramparts.Sure I get 150+ pieces of alex from SSR....when I get a linen but I havent seen a linen in nearly 2 weeks now.Like someone else said,1/20 on them.So you're luck based 150 isnt gonna be anywhere NEAR as frequent as the accepted 70-80 standard yield.

I can't help but laugh at the people that are complaing that neo-nyzul doesnt drop more alex. I am currently also stuck on alex but the reasons why:

1) Lack of salvage .. This is totally my own fault and i take blame for it.
2) More people are working on mythics cause all the other stuff is easier with the higher levels... nothing you can do bout this.
3) Less people doing salvage.. it happens.. better gears = less demand for salvage.

So what does all this mean..

1) Salvage Daily
2) Neo-nyzul 7 times a week
3) Pay higher prices

I accept all this so in all honesty they have already made your mythic ALOT easier then the original mythic owners. if you can't get the 30,000 alex.. it is your own fault.


So i dont care where they add the alex in neo-nyzul i will just do neo-nyzul to farm any alex i can get.... if i get 1 or if i get 50.. its still better then 0.

You exaggerate, its not "ALOT" easier. In the past Alex was like 3,000 gil each and everyone spammed salvage lol. I highly doubt they had it harder than people do now.