[dev1048] Assault: Nyzul Isle Uncharted Region

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By 2011-12-22 19:54:19
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By Ramuh.Krizz 2011-12-22 19:57:09
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Let's keep this discussion focused on the new Nyzul.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2011-12-22 20:01:25
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Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
Ignoring semantics and poor arguments like popularity Draylo has a point. For all you know this content could be decently balanced and overall well designed.

like the light system in abyssea to keep chains and exp intact even after you d/c/*** up chain/switch mobs
That was never an argument, it could be and hopefully it will be worth it for SOMETHING if anything. Telling Kalilla off for opinion was uncalled for.

Personally i liked Nyzul even if useless, the addition of Alexandrite might show promise depending... for Mythics sake... i hope it is. We need more alexandrite circulation...

I'm tired of seeing dyna currency everywhere...

lets mix it up a little yes?
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By Fenrir.Framerate 2011-12-22 20:02:28
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I'm so hopeful for this... (@14k alexandrite)
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2011-12-22 20:04:30
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The simple fact that i could go farm every 85 empyrean in the game, before someone else could collect alexandrite for 1 mythic is insanely unfair....

You could probably farm and complete 2 full relics before someone got a mythic as well.... You wanted to nerf ukon for balance Tanaka... now wheres them alexandrites for balance :3
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-12-22 20:07:33
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It could kinda go either way imo, at this point in the game I wouldn't doubt everyone and their grandmama will be trying to upgrade a mythic (not like they aren't now) once the new Nyzul revamp (and later Salvage) is live. Which means prices for Alex would probably stay the same or get worse before they got better (Neo-Dynamis).
 
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2011-12-22 20:12:08
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Leviathan.Draylo said: »
It could kinda go either way imo, at this point in the game I wouldn't doubt everyone and their grandmama will be trying to upgrade a mythic (not like they aren't now) once the new Nyzul revamp (and later Salvage) is live. Which means prices for Alex would probably stay the same or get worse before they got better (Neo-Dynamis).
I'll actually agree with this to a point, but look at relic currency now from dynamis... everyone and their mom on Siren thinks they can farm and buy for one now... and somehow... currency is getting ready to hit 5k a piece for some...

It depends highly on the low man or solo-ability and rate of alexandrite. I'm skeptical myself but anything is better than the way it is now right?

Kalilla has one major point which is why i don't dismiss her complaints... look at sky augments... or random crap that originally had promise anyways.... promised gold and delivered content nobody wants to do...

Biggest example: Evoliths...
 
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2011-12-22 20:17:28
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Bismarck.Josiahkf said: »
evoliths and hunt registrys had to exist and had to fail. we wouldn't have the polished results we do now without them
I can understand the sentiment of learning from your mistakes, but i don't think they NEED to happen to promote success or better ideas... Evoliths COULD have been amazing... but they went a low budget lazy route it felt like... with poor execution.

This same cycle is what makes me show concern of any event that looks hopeful...

One thing they did beautifully right... was dynamis... so i want to believe in Nyzul 2.0 with alexandrite drops and purpose.
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By Ragnarok.Afania 2011-12-22 20:21:42
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Siren.Clinpachi said: »
It depends highly on the low man or solo-ability and rate of alexandrite. I'm skeptical myself but anything is better than the way it is now right?

Kalilla has one major point which is why i don't dismiss her complaints... look at sky augments... or random crap that originally had promise anyways.... promised gold and delivered content nobody wants to do...

Biggest example: Evoliths...


Currency is soloable, and anyone needs gil can just enter solo/duo to farm gil, that's why it's flooded on the market.

Alex isn't soloable, you need 3+ ppl for Nyzul/salvage, so I doubt we can see that many on the market.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-12-22 20:21:45
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Well a difference between Dyna and currency farming and Nyzul with Alexandrite is the limited number of zones. If I remember, you can only have three instances of Nyzul open at a time. That is a lot less than Dynamis, which means congestion. Same deal if they revamp Salvage, I really don't wanna have to do Salvage with everyone being able to enter though. So if it turns out that you can farm a lot of alex from Nyzul, it will have terrible competition just to get inside.
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By Siren.Clinpachi 2011-12-22 20:24:49
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Ragnarok.Afania said: »
Siren.Clinpachi said: »
It depends highly on the low man or solo-ability and rate of alexandrite. I'm skeptical myself but anything is better than the way it is now right?

Kalilla has one major point which is why i don't dismiss her complaints... look at sky augments... or random crap that originally had promise anyways.... promised gold and delivered content nobody wants to do...

Biggest example: Evoliths...


Currency is soloable, and anyone needs gil can just enter solo/duo to farm gil, that's why it's flooded on the market.

Alex isn't soloable, you need 3+ ppl for Nyzul/salvage, so I doubt we can see that many on the market.
You can easily bring a LS person to afk or mules... 3+ player requirement isn't an issue at all... You may not think Alex is soloable... but if time has taught us anything in this game: "If there is a will, there is a way".

I believe they mentioned they are looking into a way to solve congestion... but i agree that's a issue i'd like to be skeptical about.

tl;dr: Too soon to tell, speculation.
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-16 15:23:27
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Sorry for double post, put my first post in the wrong thread:

01-16-2012 03:04 PM
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Sorry for the late announcement, but with the recent test server update, we have added/changed the below to Nyzul Isle Uncharted Region.

  • Added option to take a single item or all items when obtaining temporary items from the "Vending Box"

  • Made change so that when you reach each floor, the objective for that floor will be automatically announced

  • Adjusted the amount of tokens received

  • Added Alexandrite to the possible rewards


※The option to take all temporary items as well as the automatic announcement of floor objectives has been changed for Nyzul Isle Investigation as well.
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By Bahamut.Krizz 2012-01-16 15:27:48
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Dat Alex
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By Siren.Kalilla 2012-01-16 15:29:59
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"Made change so that when you reach each floor, the objective for that floor will be automatically announced"

I love that one, I hate trying to move away from the pole and try to target it w/o resorting to F8 :(
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2012-02-02 13:45:06
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Just a heads up, according to the JP forums, they'll be adding a 30 minute cooldown in between fights to "alleviate congestion".

Totally the best way of doing it instead of making nyzul and other events actual instances.
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