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Final Fantasy XIV 2.0
By Jerihiri 2011-10-14 17:14:07
I love how people don't want pay 50 cents a day to play...
By Meenners 2011-10-14 17:19:24
they better not recharge me for me to own version 2.0... almost a year away from version 2... sigh
By Jerihiri 2011-10-14 17:33:18
they better not recharge me for me to own version 2.0... almost a year away from version 2... sigh
They said the 2.0 software will be free of charge online to download in around October 2012.
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By Fenrir.Stiklelf 2011-10-14 18:08:17
From what I read it seemed like SE was going to at least allow add ons.
This alone makes me happy.
By trucido 2011-10-14 18:14:03
2013 PS3 release is extremely disappointing. I won't even be interested in the game by then :/
By Garlend 2011-10-14 18:29:02
I love how people don't want pay 50 cents a day to play...
50 cents a day to play a beta is still too much.
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By Buddhsie 2011-10-14 18:47:40
I would have paid to play at 1.18.. Not like it's expensive anyway.
By Zeota 2011-10-14 20:01:51
This is what they should've done to start with! I'll see what the next big patch is like before committing to anything most likely. Not that I have anyone to do anything with right now.
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By dt415 2011-10-14 20:30:55
i would pay for something that i enjoy lol. as long as its not like $25 per month. if you cant afford dont play it just saying. this is the only game that i like to play even a year later. i think everyone could spare $20-$25 a month so we could get more content. if you dont have just ask your mom and dad for it.
By Calemero 2011-10-14 20:42:12
Calemero said: pay for it
or don't pay for it
no one will miss you if you don't.
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By Bahamut.Airget 2011-10-14 21:02:33
Never thought of it this way, but SE's E3 performance is definitely gonna be mindblowing this year. Heck if they can show off Versus13 as well it'll prolly be a win year for them.
By Buddhsie 2011-10-14 22:34:00
I could definitely see them winning game of the show for either of those two lol
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By Shiva.Viciousss 2011-10-15 01:21:12
wow 2013 lol. at least they are still trying to fix this disaster.
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By Alyssah 2011-10-15 01:25:50
wow 2013 lol. at least they are still trying to fix this disaster.
This disaster.. hmm, when was the last time you touched FFXIV? (If you even own it).
By Valkyrie 2011-10-15 05:29:42
I will pay..I don't mind. I am bored with XI and all my other games atm lol
The mention of Summoner also has me very interested...:)
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By Carbuncle.Flionheart 2011-10-15 06:22:08
Mistress Cassanova said: »wow 2013 lol. at least they are still trying to fix this disaster.
This disaster.. hmm, when was the last time you touched FFXIV? (If you even own it).
Well I played it about 3-4 days ago. I wouldn't call it a disaster, but I don't think it's worth the subscription fee right now. I'll play for the storyline which encompasses the changes, but I don't think I'll be playing full time at all until 2.0.
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By Shiva.Xellith 2011-10-15 06:28:33
Cancelling my FFXIV till april at the earliest. brb
By Alyssah 2011-10-15 07:02:16
By slipispsycho 2011-10-15 07:25:20
I love how people don't want pay 50 cents a day to play...
It's a "tl;dr" but either read it or skip passed it. I'm not going to summarize it, because there is no way, this IS the summarized version. Believe me, I could make it much longer. It doesn't sound like a lot when you put it in those terms, but what about those commercials that come on where you could 'sponsor a child' for only that much.. Do you send in the money? If so, then ignore this post, but if you don't, then why? You do what everyone else does, rationalize.
I don't think of it as 50 cents a day, I think of it as ~15 bucks a month. That 15 bucks may not sound like a lot, but when you already have to budget things and don't just have the money to throw away on the off chance you want to play, it seems like a lot more..
I pre-ordered the collectors edition.. Which means I spent roughly a hundred bucks on it.. I was thoroughly ready to say "Shut up and take my money!" and I was let down, like everyone else.. I even stuck by it, longer than anyone else. I'm not even a huge devotee of the FF series or RPGs in general, a lot of the people from this site are far more into FF than I ever have been, or ever will be, and they stopped playing long before I did.
Quite frankly, I'm tired of wasting my time. I will pay for the game when it can hold my attention.. No one can accuse me of not giving it a chance, or having high expectations.. I played the BETA, and this 'isn't my first rodeo'.. SE got it all wrong, what they should have said is 'demo'.. Because that's what I, what everyone got, the same game from BETA to release..
Did you play from release? Holy ***.. I expected that a lot of the -major- problems would be fixed upon release, that's why I signed up.. The game had a good feel, but it has problems.. I didn't expect all the content to just magically appear and that there would be endless things to do, but there were major problems that needed to be addressed, but weren't. In fact it would be months before SE even acknowledged those problems and began to even formulate a team capable of visualizing a solution and then implementing it.
Honestly, I've lost faith in the game.. I will wait until they say 'Hey, this is what we've come up with, this is what we envision as good enough' and at that time, if it's not, I'm done and I won't look back.. And I'm not going to pay until it gets there. They had their opportunity to take my monthly payments while the game progressed and they completely blew it. They're lucky I'm even giving them, what a 3rd? 4th? 10th? chance.. I don't even know the count anymore.
You can't believe people won't pay 50 cents a day? I can't believe they will.. My first thought when the billing cycle was announced was "Well, guess I won't be logging in anytime soon." And I am not alone. If you got the money to waste or find the game that valuable, then fine, but don't judge those who don't. Don't judge those who don't have faith enough to pay even more.. I've defended the game and supported it when most others abandoned ship.. Go back through some of the threads on this site from around November or so when everyone else jumped ship and you'll see.. I wanted this game to be good, because it had the capacity, but it fell far short of it.. Even SE knew that if they started billing people when it was scheduled to begin (late October) they were screwed.. Even they didn't believe in it..
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By Carbuncle.Sanctferum 2011-10-15 09:40:43
"Seventh Umbral Era storyline to give way to new storyline after version 2.0, and will not be replayable."
Do they mean that they're taking it out completely? Or you just won't be able to play through those missions again after beating them, but new players can still play them on their first run through of the game's missions?
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By Ragnarok.Shadowknoll 2011-10-15 10:52:27
I love how people don't want pay 50 cents a day to play...
It's a "tl;dr" but either read it or skip passed it. I'm not going to summarize it, because there is no way, this IS the summarized version. Believe me, I could make it much longer. It doesn't sound like a lot when you put it in those terms, but what about those commercials that come on where you could 'sponsor a child' for only that much.. Do you send in the money? If so, then ignore this post, but if you don't, then why? You do what everyone else does, rationalize.
I don't think of it as 50 cents a day, I think of it as ~15 bucks a month. That 15 bucks may not sound like a lot, but when you already have to budget things and don't just have the money to throw away on the off chance you want to play, it seems like a lot more..
I pre-ordered the collectors edition.. Which means I spent roughly a hundred bucks on it.. I was thoroughly ready to say "Shut up and take my money!" and I was let down, like everyone else.. I even stuck by it, longer than anyone else. I'm not even a huge devotee of the FF series or RPGs in general, a lot of the people from this site are far more into FF than I ever have been, or ever will be, and they stopped playing long before I did.
Quite frankly, I'm tired of wasting my time. I will pay for the game when it can hold my attention.. No one can accuse me of not giving it a chance, or having high expectations.. I played the BETA, and this 'isn't my first rodeo'.. SE got it all wrong, what they should have said is 'demo'.. Because that's what I, what everyone got, the same game from BETA to release..
Did you play from release? Holy ***.. I expected that a lot of the -major- problems would be fixed upon release, that's why I signed up.. The game had a good feel, but it has problems.. I didn't expect all the content to just magically appear and that there would be endless things to do, but there were major problems that needed to be addressed, but weren't. In fact it would be months before SE even acknowledged those problems and began to even formulate a team capable of visualizing a solution and then implementing it.
Honestly, I've lost faith in the game.. I will wait until they say 'Hey, this is what we've come up with, this is what we envision as good enough' and at that time, if it's not, I'm done and I won't look back.. And I'm not going to pay until it gets there. They had their opportunity to take my monthly payments while the game progressed and they completely blew it. They're lucky I'm even giving them, what a 3rd? 4th? 10th? chance.. I don't even know the count anymore.
You can't believe people won't pay 50 cents a day? I can't believe they will.. My first thought when the billing cycle was announced was "Well, guess I won't be logging in anytime soon." And I am not alone. If you got the money to waste or find the game that valuable, then fine, but don't judge those who don't. Don't judge those who don't have faith enough to pay even more.. I've defended the game and supported it when most others abandoned ship.. Go back through some of the threads on this site from around November or so when everyone else jumped ship and you'll see.. I wanted this game to be good, because it had the capacity, but it fell far short of it.. Even SE knew that if they started billing people when it was scheduled to begin (late October) they were screwed.. Even they didn't believe in it.. how long has it been free to play? how much longer do you think they can keep it that way before losing WAY to much money to ever get back in a profit from this game?
everyone knew this day was coming soon whys it such a shock? they need money to fund this thing if you don't feel like supporting it with your money then wait lol.
By endelig 2011-10-15 11:05:04
Carbuncle.Sanctferum said: »"Seventh Umbral Era storyline to give way to new storyline after version 2.0, and will not be replayable."
Do they mean that they're taking it out completely? Or you just won't be able to play through those missions again after beating them, but new players can still play them on their first run through of the game's missions?
It seems like people that start in 2.0 wont be able to play that portion of the story at all. That's what I got from it. I think it's mostly going to be there to try to make the would be sudden changes to completely different environments not be so sudden.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Acropora 2011-10-15 11:13:25
I'm pretty happy about all the changes, except we're losing our zones? Idk, I kinda liked that FFXIV had large-scale zones, and not tiny crappy ones like in XI. If they could've just knocked em down halfway instead, and not (by the looks of the "new" Coerthas map) down to about 1/20th of the size.. So long as they can keep the "feel" of the zones, and make them still appear geographically the same as the old ones, I guess it's alright =/a
With a graphic engine rehaul, and with them saying "Appearances of certain objects will display differently" so they are letting us "change the race, gender, etc of our characters", does that mean the current customizable features will be abolished? Certain faces, etc.. I mean I worked hard to get my mi'qote looking exactly as I want her, It'd suck if they abolished some of those things and made us re-choose.
Although I'm pretty sure it just means, hey if you wanna keep everything as is, go ahead, if you wanna be a manthra >_> here you go.
I don't know all that much about what it's taking for them to do this, so I'm just unsure =o
But yeah =| mostly concerned about the zones/music that I've (strangely) grown to like a lot.
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By Carbuncle.Flionheart 2011-10-15 11:26:54
Carbuncle.Sanctferum said: »"Seventh Umbral Era storyline to give way to new storyline after version 2.0, and will not be replayable."
Do they mean that they're taking it out completely? Or you just won't be able to play through those missions again after beating them, but new players can still play them on their first run through of the game's missions?
It wouldn't make sense for it to be replayable seeing as the story is explaining why the world is going to change so drastically.
This is probably my favourite part of the new update.
Even though I never played Wow I was a gigantic sucker for the whole cataclysm storyline and how it was presented, it was live. It wasn't something that you just woke up to, you saw the event unfolding. That is amazing.
Imagine how psyched you'll feel when there's 2-3 days until the whole transformation and everything is going absolutely crazy in game? Exciting. Very exciting.
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By Asura.Kowen 2011-10-15 11:56:40
Quetzalcoatl.Acropora said: »I'm pretty happy about all the changes, except we're losing our zones? Idk, I kinda liked that FFXIV had large-scale zones, and not tiny crappy ones like in XI. If they could've just knocked em down halfway instead, and not (by the looks of the "new" Coerthas map) down to about 1/20th of the size.. So long as they can keep the "feel" of the zones, and make them still appear geographically the same as the old ones, I guess it's alright =/a
XIV's zones really aren't that much different. I don't think it's fair to call it "large-scale" because they're just made up of little separate areas connected by skinny pathways. It's basically XI without loading screens, but with no unique landscapes as a consequence.
If adding a few seconds of black screen between the areas in a region means they can make each one unique and interesting, I think it's a very small price to pay.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Acropora 2011-10-15 12:04:11
Quetzalcoatl.Acropora said: »I'm pretty happy about all the changes, except we're losing our zones? Idk, I kinda liked that FFXIV had large-scale zones, and not tiny crappy ones like in XI. If they could've just knocked em down halfway instead, and not (by the looks of the "new" Coerthas map) down to about 1/20th of the size.. So long as they can keep the "feel" of the zones, and make them still appear geographically the same as the old ones, I guess it's alright =/a
XIV's zones really aren't that much different. I don't think it's fair to call it "large-scale" because they're just made up of little separate areas connected by skinny pathways. It's basically XI without loading screens, but with no unique landscapes as a consequence.
If adding a few seconds of black screen between the areas in a region means they can make each one unique and interesting, I think it's a very small price to pay.
I don't mind so much that there will be the typical "zone" time with a black screen, etc, I just mean the look and feel. By viewing the concept art of say, "Upper La Noscea", it looks like part wasteland, part forest, and part beach. How are they going to make it feel like you're still in one specific region? I.E Limsa Lominsa is a kind of seascape/plains area, the current La Noscea zone captures that, I think.. I'm seeing brown rocky looking areas large dark cliffs, with orange crap oozing outta them, granted its a very small picture and zooming blurs it even more. Then some ocean looking stuff in the southeastern parts O.o.. I know it's still in development stage, but I just have to point it out XD I hope they can make it feel like where you're supposed to be.
Edit: I guess that's where they want to add "three unique themes to each area" but it seems like you can feel lost that way. If the zones are too small to accompany the transitions, they're going to be jumbled mishmash of landscapes that make no sense.
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By Asura.Kowen 2011-10-15 13:36:28
Ah yeah, I see what you mean about that. The conceptual maps are probably just drawn out with extra contrast to show exactly how the areas are divided. XIV has an amazing crew of artists so I'm sure they'll blend everything together well, I have no doubt the new areas will be stunning. :)
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By Taigatan 2011-10-15 15:02:18
Carbuncle.Flionheart said: »Carbuncle.Sanctferum said: »"Seventh Umbral Era storyline to give way to new storyline after version 2.0, and will not be replayable."
Do they mean that they're taking it out completely? Or you just won't be able to play through those missions again after beating them, but new players can still play them on their first run through of the game's missions?
It wouldn't make sense for it to be replayable seeing as the story is explaining why the world is going to change so drastically.
This is probably my favourite part of the new update.
Even though I never played Wow I was a gigantic sucker for the whole cataclysm storyline and how it was presented, it was live. It wasn't something that you just woke up to, you saw the event unfolding. That is amazing.
Imagine how psyched you'll feel when there's 2-3 days until the whole transformation and everything is going absolutely crazy in game? Exciting. Very exciting.
This is the part that is totally sucking me back into this game right now even if I don't 100% have the time to play as much as I'd like to.
I see this more as the reward for those who have stuck with the game through the re-work process, anyone here now who stays around is going to get to do something that no one else will ever get to do in the game, period.
When I first started playing 11 which was my first MMO the one thing that always kind of disappointing me was no matter how many missions you did the world wouldn't necessarily change. It's the nature of MMO's, no matter when you start you get to do the same things as the previous players, and because of that the world cannot change around you.
Even though this has been done the concept is still really awesome to think about, and to not have it just be some patch that updates the maps as I previously thought they were going to do, but actually something that changes the world forever and no one with a character creation date past the date of change will get to see or experience is something pretty awesome.
I can't wait, and either today or tomorrow I'm going to start dedicating more time to playing the game again, especially since I haven't even seen the 1.19 patch stuff yet.
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By Caitsith.Zabimaru 2011-10-15 15:04:33
The 2.0 UI looks so much better.
By Oumura 2011-10-15 17:21:52
While it is still a concept of the UI redesign, I'm still pleased to see that it has a much cleaner look to it.
As some people have pointed out, it does resemble the UI of some other games but honestly if it works, it works. No shame in adapting something good design-wise that came from elsewhere, which is a problem SE has been struggling with since the days of XI.
I just hope they offer higher overlay resolutions than what the game offers now. I play on a laptop so my screen space is precious to me. I don't want a UI that clutters so much of the screen that it hinders gameplay.
The new Final Fantasy direction and announcement is here. The new graphics engine is absolutely stunning. I'm so excited I can hardly contain myself and I havent even finished reading yet.
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