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Warning To Any Players Using Click And Buy
Valefor.Ivaan
Server: Valefor
Game: FFXI
Posts: 605
By Valefor.Ivaan 2011-10-16 13:36:03
thanks, but to pay via credit card ( for crysta) my only option bring me to add info through click and buy.
So im assuming by buying crysta everyone is using the game cards option to by pass click and buy altogether.
Cerberus.Kiori
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 298
By Cerberus.Kiori 2011-10-16 17:12:05
thanks, but to pay via credit card ( for crysta) my only option bring me to add info through click and buy.
So im assuming by buying crysta everyone is using the game cards option to by pass click and buy altogether. you don't need click and buy...if you would read back on the previous page, look up till you see a "paypal" picture, you'd understand.
By Brolli 2011-10-23 14:21:45
talking about gaming cards and click n buy, im selling a ultimate gaming card 10$ value for 6$, send me a PM if interested
Ragnarok.Neonracer
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 411
By Ragnarok.Neonracer 2011-10-23 14:37:09
The only problem ive had so far is them charging an extra 25 cents for "international transaction fees".
which isn't really quite a problem, really.. I mean what's a big .25 cents??? You might add that to a cup of coffee, when you return to work on a Monday a.m. before work..
shrugs..
Cerberus.Quipto
Server: Cerberus
Game: FFXI
Posts: 608
By Cerberus.Quipto 2011-10-23 14:49:58
Ragnarok.Neonracer said: »The only problem ive had so far is them charging an extra 25 cents for "international transaction fees".
which isn't really quite a problem, really.. I mean what's a big .25 cents??? You might add that to a cup of coffee, when you return to work on a Monday a.m. before work..
shrugs.. Yes, because a 2% increase on everything would be totally ok. You are a moron.
Ragnarok.Neonracer
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 411
By Ragnarok.Neonracer 2011-10-23 15:04:02
Ragnarok.Neonracer said: »The only problem ive had so far is them charging an extra 25 cents for "international transaction fees".
which isn't really quite a problem, really.. I mean what's a big .25 cents??? You might add that to a cup of coffee, when you return to work on a Monday a.m. before work..
shrugs.. Yes, because a 2% increase on everything would be totally ok. You are a moron.
Ugh.. complain all you want, I never said Click and buy was awesome, for some ppl it may just be an opportunity that suits them right.
Everyone is entitled to an opinion, albeit the lack of sensitivity of name calling here is definately ignorant, you sir... lack mental restraint.
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 178
By Fenrir.Crystenne 2011-10-24 04:55:03
Ragnarok.Neonracer said: »The only problem ive had so far is them charging an extra 25 cents for "international transaction fees".
which isn't really quite a problem, really.. I mean what's a big .25 cents??? You might add that to a cup of coffee, when you return to work on a Monday a.m. before work..
shrugs..
Alright then, every time you buy a coffee for $4.75 from now on, you won't get any change. The extra 25 cents is a coffee processing fee. Why pay more for no reason? That's the problem.
It's people like you that are the reason these companies get away with pulling this stuff to begin with.
It's basic consumer rights.
Ragnarok.Neonracer
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 411
By Ragnarok.Neonracer 2011-10-24 05:00:14
Ok I don't need to go into great financial details, but as a pal pays for my acc, I send him a flat "friend fee" oh let say what is this game a month... 15.00 or 12.75 US or wtf it is...
then I just wire him the $$$ from acc to acc ( b.c we deal with the same bank, just diff branches.)
We have been doing this for a long time now, even before Click N Buy b.s started...
Meh.. he pays for both of us... so not like I care...
shrugs..
Shiva.Maahes
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 20
By Shiva.Maahes 2011-10-24 05:58:24
I really want to get off C&B ...
Everytime i try and buy Crysta I get to the point where Ultimapay asks for my creditcard and then tell's me the transaction was not completed.
Tried 3 cc and 2 Debit cards now and notta.. Never had a paypal acct to go that route either.
C&B works... but i want away from them.. before they get around to messing me about! Bail before pushed...
Server: Shiva
Game: FFXI
Posts: 916
By Shiva.Xellith 2011-10-24 06:11:59
I really want to get off C&B ...
Everytime i try and buy Crysta I get to the point where Ultimapay asks for my creditcard and then tell's me the transaction was not completed.
Tried 3 cc and 2 Debit cards now and notta.. Never had a paypal acct to go that route either.
C&B works... but i want away from them.. before they get around to messing me about! Bail before pushed...
Use paypal. Keep money in the paypal account. Use that to pay for it through ultimatebuy
Ragnarok.Neonracer
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 411
By Ragnarok.Neonracer 2011-10-24 14:51:27
Bart, that is exactly what I was trying to elaborate on. Is $.25 really, really going to break you or the bank, when it comes to pay a for a mmporg?, on top of the reg fee to play?
Also if you are paying for a coffee the price of $4.25, that is awfully expensive cup of coffee..you sir are definately getting ripped off.
$1.57 in Canada( Extra large)
No gouge in cost there.
Carbuncle.Flionheart
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1759
By Carbuncle.Flionheart 2011-10-24 15:15:28
Ragnarok.Neonracer said: »The only problem ive had so far is them charging an extra 25 cents for "international transaction fees".
which isn't really quite a problem, really.. I mean what's a big .25 cents??? You might add that to a cup of coffee, when you return to work on a Monday a.m. before work..
shrugs.. Yes, because a 2% increase on everything would be totally ok. You are a moron.
It's actually just the realistic outlook here. Sure you can apply 25 cents to "every scenario", but as it stands and what it's for it's still just 25 cents. Not a big deal etc.
Consumer rights or not, you won't be changing it. So move on or move out.
Oops, I cared.
Edit: On the first part, let me elaborate:
If 25 cents for xi is breaking your bank, you might want to rethink your financial priorities.
Who has implied it was breaking the bank? It's the fact that they are taking money for nothing. It could be 25 cents or $15. A company taking extra money for nothing IS a big deal, no matter which way you slice it. And the attitude of "Oh well, it's only 25 cents" is the reason they continue to do it.
Ragnarok.Neonracer
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 411
By Ragnarok.Neonracer 2011-10-24 19:28:49
Perhaps that is how they they do business and stay alive..
.15 cents for every transaction...
Its called a "process free", but that's ok, fine.. complain moar!!!
shrugs
Its just a way to make money and keep a business in motion. Its how anyone in the world works... You go to work, you work for an employer, and at the end of the week, you get a pay cheque...
shakes head.. As Bart said.. time to re-evaluate if FFXI is financially worth it to you..
Bahamut.Echojin
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 158
By Bahamut.Echojin 2011-10-24 19:37:02
Pretty sure the extra small fees have been explained as conversion rates of money ... or something? They are like... overseas? I'm sure there is someone who can explain it more articulately.
Carbuncle.Flionheart
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1759
By Carbuncle.Flionheart 2011-10-24 19:45:39
Ragnarok.Neonracer said: »Perhaps that is how they they do business and stay alive..
.15 cents for every transaction...
Its called a "process free", but that's ok, fine.. complain moar!!!
shrugs
Its just a way to make money and keep a business in motion. Its how anyone in the world works... You go to work, you work for an employer, and at the end of the week, you get a pay cheque...
shakes head.. As Bart said.. time to re-evaluate if FFXI is financially worth it to you..
Paypal doesn't require a fee for small transactions. Stop talking about something you don't understand. I heard a janitors pay cheque isn't great either, so think about the poor janitors of the world.
Ragnarok.Neonracer
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 411
By Ragnarok.Neonracer 2011-10-24 20:47:07
Pretty sure the extra small fees have been explained as conversion rates of money ... or something? They are like... overseas? I'm sure there is someone who can explain it more articulately. Exactly....
Flion open you're mind and quit being ignorant and believeing what you want to believe till you get the facts straight from Se and C&B.
I don't have a clue what you're talking about.. What do Janitors have to do with it???
XD
but w.e argue for the sake of arguing b.c its me, Neonracer. =P
<shakes head>
Carbuncle.Flionheart
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1759
By Carbuncle.Flionheart 2011-10-24 20:53:07
Ragnarok.Neonracer said: »Pretty sure the extra small fees have been explained as conversion rates of money ... or something? They are like... overseas? I'm sure there is someone who can explain it more articulately. Exactly....
Flion open you're mind and quit being ignorant and believeing what you want to believe till you get the facts straight from Se and C&B.
I don't have a clue what you're talking about.. What do Janitors have to do with it???
XD
but w.e argue for the sake of arguing b.c its me, Neonracer. =P
<shakes head>
What facts? It's 25 cents that they are taking for no reason. If you use Paypal to spend the same amount on crysta you get no fees for the same results.
You are obviously bad with finances if you are willing to throw away money freely, and don't even care where or why.
But I guess you don't have to worry about it because you don't have a bank/card.
Ragnarok.Neonracer
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
Posts: 411
By Ragnarok.Neonracer 2011-10-24 21:00:24
Flion, U need to scroll and read.
It's already been mentioned.
ugh.
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 36553
By Asura.Ludoggy 2011-10-24 21:02:21
Ragnarok.Neonracer said: »Flion open you're mind and quit being ignorant lold
Carbuncle.Flionheart
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 1759
By Carbuncle.Flionheart 2011-10-24 21:02:27
Ragnarok.Neonracer said: »Flion, U need to scroll and read.
It's already been mentioned.
ugh.
Do you get paid in snickers bars or something. If you used your own bank card you'd be more mad about it.
Carbuncle.Wulfshadow
Server: Carbuncle
Game: FFXI
Posts: 486
By Carbuncle.Wulfshadow 2011-10-24 21:03:58
Carbuncle.Flionheart said: »Ragnarok.Neonracer said: »Flion, U need to scroll and read.
It's already been mentioned.
ugh.
Do you get paid in snickers bars or something. If you used your own bank card you'd be more mad about it.
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By Inuyasha 2011-10-24 21:25:50
Ragnarok.Neonracer said: »The only problem ive had so far is them charging an extra 25 cents for "international transaction fees". which isn't really quite a problem, really.. I mean what's a big .25 cents??? You might add that to a cup of coffee, when you return to work on a Monday a.m. before work.. shrugs.. Alright then, every time you buy a coffee for $4.75 from now on, you won't get any change. The extra 25 cents is a coffee processing fee. Why pay more for no reason? That's the problem. It's people like you that are the reason these companies get away with pulling this stuff to begin with. It's basic consumer rights. meh...i already pay $3 extra for my loadable cards service fee so thats 15.95 for one character a month the extra 25 cents loads that to 16.20...now thats only for ONE character....only thing i need to complete the equation for TWO is if they charge ANOTHER .25 for the extra 12.95 charge. Assuming they do, 3+12.95+12.95+.25+.25= 29.40 thats.....3.50 more than what two accounts should be. However, im not THAT Concerned about it yet seeing as how i get money to go to school to put on that card and in my bank account but i dont get tuition paid for summer sessions and the 900 or so they send me only covers a part of the 1300ish it takes for a full time schedule.
TL;DR its not a problem for me atm...but sooner or later it will become a problem and i dont want to lose 8+ years of work for bieng nickle and dimed by a shady company they JUST picked up.
Quote: If you used your own bank card you'd be more mad about it.
*** using your own card to pay with C&B >_>' after seeing everything here i kindly advised the persons whose card i was on to drive me to walmart and get one of their prepaid cards.
Asura.Toxleh
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 550
By Asura.Toxleh 2011-10-25 09:51:38
is there even a number to call square enix anymore i just got suspended and im so pissed off by the situation... i really wanna yell at someone not send a million emails
Asura.Miyara
Server: Asura
Game: FFXI
Posts: 70
By Asura.Miyara 2011-10-25 18:58:21
23 days. It took 23 days for SE to unlock my account.
To amend my first post. I no longer blame Click and Buy. They do suck, but things were settled with Click and Buy in a few minutes. The problem here is entirely the fault of SE's terrible customer service. There's no reason that this should have taken 3 weeks. Not to mention the only penalty should have been to block FFXI access, and not access to my entire SE account.
By Inuyasha 2011-10-25 19:29:00
23 days. It took 23 days for SE to unlock my account. To amend my first post. I no longer blame Click and Buy. They do suck, but things were settled with Click and Buy in a few minutes. The problem here is entirely the fault of SE's terrible customer service. There's no reason that this should have taken 3 weeks. Not to mention the only penalty should have been to block FFXI access, and not access to my entire FFXI account. wow...23 days on SE's part...thats just...unacceptable :|
glad my little 3 days of terror waiting for my payment to show up on the card didnt turn into THAT :|
By Brolli 2011-10-30 01:29:49
talking about gaming cards and click n buy, im selling a ultimate gaming card 10$ value for 6$, send me a PM if interested
still selling this

this is how to use it
1k crysta worth
Phoenix.Degs
Server: Phoenix
Game: FFXI
Posts: 2448
By Phoenix.Degs 2011-10-30 02:19:56
I use the reaccuring debit system... not sure if it is click and buy, but i have never had a problem... they send me an email a couple days prior and the day of debit.... used it since august too
Lakshmi.Hiku
Server: Lakshmi
Game: FFXI
Posts: 88
By Lakshmi.Hiku 2011-10-31 12:06:52
I've stopped using clickandbuy as of this month, not because of any fraud charges or fees, but because when i logged in this morning it had cancelled all the content IDs for 3 accounts that i pay for. (mine and my family's accounts). I went onto the SE site to reactivate IDs, and attempted to reset the payment info for clickandbuy, thinking that maybe there was a check-box for automatic payments that i may have missed.. but it gave me an error message and said unable to process. I'm not entirely sure why it did this, since it took my payments just fine last month, but it wasted like a whole 10 minutes of my time so i figured might as well pay with crysta if i'm gonna have these issues every month.
Just want to get the word out to anyone who may be paying to FFXI using Click and Buy, abandon chip. Change your payment info on the SE Management site ASAP. Buying Crysta sucks, but it's far better than losing your account.
I am currently in the middle of a nightmare with SE's customer service. Due to an error with Click and Buy, a chargeback was issues to Square. So I work with Click and buy, and quickly resolve the matter. Pay the fee, and Square Enix gets their money. That was last Sunday.
The chargeback resulted not in the cancellation of my FFXI access and account (my community profile is still active), but a total termination of my Square Enix Account. I can't log in to change billing info, register new games, access the forums, or even ::shudder:: log into FF XIV. Calls to SE customer service have been useless. Under the new billing policy, they can't do anything. According to them I have to wait until Click and Buy contacts them, and for them to get around to unbanning my account. Providing SE with the transaction number from C&B, showing that they have been paid is not enough for them. When asked for an ETA, they won't even say if this issue will be resolved within a month.
This is a horrible way to run a business, and handle something as simple as a card chargeback.
So there's my warning. Ditch Click and Buy, because if there is ever any issue with it, you're screwed, and SE has no idea how long it might take to get it fixed on their end. Buying Crysta sucks, but at least then you just get your access cut off for non-payment if something screws up, and you won't have to worry about a chargeback.
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