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The great debate: Casey Anonthy
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-07-08 13:28:32
Ragnarok.Amador said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said: Quote:
I said she was negligent not that the negligence was the cause of death
Who is to say really? She's getting off clean simply because there is no binding evidence to state that she is guilty. She did not confess, she did not have anything that would place her as guilty beyond questionable doubt for the death of her child.
Her entire testimony was a load of lies. This is the loop hole that American Law has, if there is no binding evidence that allows a suspect to be held, he walks free. Regardless of the fact that common sense would lead to believe otherwise.
What kind of person, knows her child is missing, makes up stories, and parties all night?
Her tattoo reads: Beautiful Life, what does that imply?
On a psychological level that implies she's free. Wonder what she could of freed herself from? Oh right, the responsibility of being a Mother, because when you are a parent and you have to take care of your child, there's no time for partying and tattoos like that.
It's not just negligence, it's a whole other level shamelessness, and selfishness.
being innocent until proven guilty and the burden of proof is upon the prosecution isn't a loophole, would you rather have people being hung at the mere accusation of a crime?
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By Lakshmi.Feifongwong 2011-07-08 13:42:11
Ragnarok.Amador said: Sylph.Tigerwoods said:
I said she was negligent not that the negligence was the cause of death
Who is to say really? She's getting off clean simply because there is no binding evidence to state that she is guilty. She did not confess, she did not have anything that would place her as guilty beyond questionable doubt for the death of her child.
Her entire testimony was a load of lies. This is the loop hole that American Law has, if there is no binding evidence that allows a suspect to be held, he walks free. Regardless of the fact that common sense would lead to believe otherwise.
What kind of person, knows her child is missing, makes up stories, and parties all night?
Her tattoo reads: Beautiful Life, what does that imply?
On a psychological level that implies she's free. Wonder what she could of freed herself from? Oh right, the responsibility of being a Mother, because when you are a parent and you have to take care of your child, there's no time for partying and tattoos like that.
It's not just negligence, it's a whole other level shamelessness, and selfishness.
On the basis of her tatoo alone i think she must be guilty. American justice has to many loop holes. She should fry because of her tatoo.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-07-08 13:54:35
Haven't skimmed the thread but she is getting porn offers now lol..
Edit: there we go page 6. After all this that is all she is gonna be good for though.
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By Lakshmi.Feifongwong 2011-07-09 03:27:43
Fenrir.Skarwind said: Haven't skimmed the thread but she is getting porn offers now lol..
Edit: there we go page 6. After all this that is all she is gonna be good for though.
Nah you read wrong, she had porn connections before.
Sorry, to burst your bubble. But she cut those ties long ago.
Rumors man, rumors.
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By Ragnarok.Corres 2011-07-09 19:10:39
Casey Anthony's Not Guilty Verdict: Drum It Up To The CSI Effect
a good article.
and if trials are being held as an entertainment show you don't have to wonder why the murderers are let free. maybe they provide the most part of reality-entertainment?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2011-07-09 19:20:12
That article seems to be saying "*** it, you don't need conclusive evidence! As long as the evidence can be interpreted against the person we shouldn't care about anything else! Who cares about definite proof?"
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By Lakshmi.Jesi 2011-07-09 19:45:09
More like a biased article calling the jurors idiots for not convicting on murder one with just circumstantial evidence.
The "CSI effect" is such a joke. This guy is out of his mind.
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By Ragnarok.Corres 2011-07-17 10:53:51
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By Fenrir.Moldtech 2011-07-17 10:59:42
I hope her lawyer is hiding her in his trunk for 30 days.
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By Sylph.Tigerwoods 2011-07-17 11:25:30
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By Phoenix.Darkwizardzin 2011-07-17 11:42:14
Good now people can stop talking about this and we can get on with our lives. >.>
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2011-07-17 11:49:00
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: That article seems to be saying "*** it, you don't need conclusive evidence! As long as the evidence can be interpreted against the person we shouldn't care about anything else! Who cares about definite proof?"
As far as justice goes, you don't need a smoking gun to convict. You only need to prove guilt beyond a "reasonable" doubt. If jurors are expecting CSI type results then their expectations as quite unreasonable.
All I would have needed to hear is that her child was dead and she LIED to the cops about her disappearance.
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By Sylph.Washburn 2011-07-17 12:36:51
Well, american law such as this case seems to be flawed, as is everything else in the world. Everyone knows she was responsible. Hell, for 3 years she "didnt know" what happened, and during that time a reporter suggested the kid drowned, to which in the evidence pile, there was a jail video of her mom telling her the reporter said that, to which she replied something along the lines of "yeah, figures theyd make stuff up". But she rolled her dice on the drowning story, and it couldnt be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that she forced death upon her daughter. So they couldnt slam her with murder. But, everything thats happened in the past years... We all know she did it... Just like the OJ trial... It seems like a flaw, but its set up to protect the innocent, just once in a while this ***happens. She still will have a shitty life tho. Shell have to move, be a recluse, look over her shoulder for a while. Probably never get a decent job or have a way to support herself. Etc etc. Tbh, she would have a better life in a jail cell. She just doesnt realize it yet.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Xueye 2011-07-17 12:44:46
Ragnarok.Nausi said: Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: That article seems to be saying "*** it, you don't need conclusive evidence! As long as the evidence can be interpreted against the person we shouldn't care about anything else! Who cares about definite proof?"
As far as justice goes, you don't need a smoking gun to convict. You only need to prove guilt beyond a "reasonable" doubt. If jurors are expecting CSI type results then their expectations as quite unreasonable.
All I would have needed to hear is that her child was dead and she LIED to the cops about her disappearance.
So that proves that she herself slaughtered the child? Weren't they trying to get her on first degree?
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2011-07-17 12:50:49
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: Ragnarok.Nausi said: Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: That article seems to be saying "*** it, you don't need conclusive evidence! As long as the evidence can be interpreted against the person we shouldn't care about anything else! Who cares about definite proof?"
As far as justice goes, you don't need a smoking gun to convict. You only need to prove guilt beyond a "reasonable" doubt. If jurors are expecting CSI type results then their expectations as quite unreasonable.
All I would have needed to hear is that her child was dead and she LIED to the cops about her disappearance.
So that proves that she herself slaughtered the child? Weren't they trying to get her on first degree?
Xueye has a very good point here. There was not enough evidence that she did it. However bad it looks and whatever we think may have happened, it couldn't be proven, so she is walking.
That being said, I wish the prosecution could have come up with the evidence, because I think she is guilty.
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By Lakshmi.Feifongwong 2011-07-17 13:17:18
Listen here! Based on my emotional preference I demand she get the death penalty! I saw pictures that implied ever day of the week she went out and partied. Also she got a tatoo!
Casey Anthony is guilty!
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-07-17 13:25:12
Being on the jury for a case like this has to suck hardcore.
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By Phoenix.Darkwizardzin 2011-07-17 13:32:20
Sylph.Washburn said: Well, american law such as this case seems to be flawed, as is everything else in the world. Everyone knows she was responsible. Hell, for 3 years she "didnt know" what happened, and during that time a reporter suggested the kid drowned, to which in the evidence pile, there was a jail video of her mom telling her the reporter said that, to which she replied something along the lines of "yeah, figures theyd make stuff up". But she rolled her dice on the drowning story, and it couldnt be proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that she forced death upon her daughter. So they couldnt slam her with murder. But, everything thats happened in the past years... We all know she did it... Just like the OJ trial... It seems like a flaw, but its set up to protect the innocent, just once in a while this ***happens. She still will have a shitty life tho. Shell have to move, be a recluse, look over her shoulder for a while. Probably never get a decent job or have a way to support herself. Etc etc. Tbh, she would have a better life in a jail cell. She just doesnt realize it yet. The sad thing is... she's gonna be rich because of all the publicity this case was given.... she'll be able to sell her story to the press for boatloads of money.
This is why I don't think cases like this should be this widely pubiliced (to the point where the whole nation hears about it). It helps no one and only causes unneeded drama and pain (like when that women ramed another women with her car because she "looked" like Casey Anonthy). I'm glad this case is finaly done and now we can just forget about her and move on. (at least until the next big drama case hits)
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2011-07-17 13:39:26
Asura.Catastrophe said: Seriously, they should ban stupid biased reporters from television
ftfy
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By Phoenix.Darkwizardzin 2011-07-17 13:42:34
Bismarck.Nevill said: Asura.Catastrophe said: Seriously, they should ban stupid biased reporters from television
ftfy so they should ban all reporters from reporting?
everyone is biased in one way or another.
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2011-07-17 13:43:28
Phoenix.Darkwizardzin said: Bismarck.Nevill said: Asura.Catastrophe said: Seriously, they should ban stupid biased reporters from television
ftfy so they should ban all reporters from reporting?
everyone is biased in one way or another.
it is possible to report without a bias.
It's called stating facts without opinion.
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By Phoenix.Darkwizardzin 2011-07-17 13:47:07
Bismarck.Nevill said: Phoenix.Darkwizardzin said: Bismarck.Nevill said: Asura.Catastrophe said: Seriously, they should ban stupid biased reporters from television
ftfy so they should ban all reporters from reporting?
everyone is biased in one way or another.
it is possible to report without a bias.
It's called stating facts without opinion. That's true... but alot less people would watch that sort of thing. Sadly people need to be biased to attract viewers.
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-07-17 13:48:07
There's no money in unbiased reporting. Sensation sells.
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2011-07-17 13:48:19
Phoenix.Darkwizardzin said: Bismarck.Nevill said: Phoenix.Darkwizardzin said: Bismarck.Nevill said: Asura.Catastrophe said: Seriously, they should ban stupid biased reporters from television
ftfy so they should ban all reporters from reporting?
everyone is biased in one way or another.
it is possible to report without a bias.
It's called stating facts without opinion. That's true... but alot less people would watch that sort of thing. Sadly people need to be biased to attract viewers.
Well, they just watch the news as a type of entertainment, rather than information.
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By Bismarck.Nevill 2011-07-17 13:48:48
Carbuncle.Asymptotic said: There's no money in unbiased reporting. Sensation sells.
Very Very true. Sad, but true.
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By Bahamut.Bekisa 2011-07-17 15:12:39
The media made her guilty way before any evidence was actually reviewed. I think the offense team was missing something. Who knows what -- another person, another motive, something. They obviously didn't have enough evidence and the jury knew it. I thought for sure she was going to end up in jail for at least one count.
She may be guilty -- who knows. But I hate seeing everyone online and on TV act like they know exactly what happened and convicting her themselves just because of what they see on the news. The news will report what gets the most people to watch them. It would be horrible to put her in jail, life sentence or whatever, if she was only guilty of being an ignorant mother who didn't know where her child was.
If anything she's guilty of being a neglectful mother. How do you not know your daughter is missing for that long?
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By Ragnarok.Nausi 2011-07-17 15:55:32
Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: Ragnarok.Nausi said: Quetzalcoatl.Xueye said: That article seems to be saying "*** it, you don't need conclusive evidence! As long as the evidence can be interpreted against the person we shouldn't care about anything else! Who cares about definite proof?"
As far as justice goes, you don't need a smoking gun to convict. You only need to prove guilt beyond a "reasonable" doubt. If jurors are expecting CSI type results then their expectations as quite unreasonable.
All I would have needed to hear is that her child was dead and she LIED to the cops about her disappearance.
So that proves that she herself slaughtered the child? Weren't they trying to get her on first degree?
I think many of my fellow FFXIAH-ers fail to understand the facts of the case.
A little girl is dead.
She didn’t kill herself.
The last person known to have seen Caylee Anthony before she died was her mother.
The girl’s body was found months after she died, wrapped in plastic and duct tape.
The same sort of duct tape and plastic Caylee’s remains were found in was also in Casey’s house.
The medical examiner ruled Caylee’s death a homicide but couldn’t give a specific cause of death because the remains had deteriorated so badly.
During those six months her daughter’s body was rotting in the Florida woods not far from her home, Casey continuously lied about what happened to her own daughter. For 31 days she kept her daughter’s death a secret, then for months she pretended she didn’t know anything about Caylee’s death or disappearance.
The trunk of Casey’s car had held a dead body at some point, according to forensic analysis. It also had a strand of hair taken (according to forensic analysis) from Caylee’s head after (again according to analysis) after she was dead. There was also evidence of the presence of chloroform.
In late 2008, not long before Caylee’s body was found, Casey’s attorney’s sent the police a 30-page document saying, after months of denials, that Caylee could've been poisoned by chloroform or she could have died while she was sedated.
Once it was time to go to trial, Casey suddenly claimed that Caylee had drown in the family pool but Casey’s evil molester-father forced Casey to hide the body and keep Caylee’s death a secret. There was never any evidence offered that Casey had been molested by her father, and the judge ordered the jury to ignore these suggestions made by the defense.
Casey’s computer was repeatedly used to surf websites giving instructions on how to make chloroform.
If Casey didn't do it then who did? If your responses are limited to someone somewhere could have kidnapped her when no one was looking then your doubts are UN-reasonable.
Officially innocent, thoughts?
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