The Great Debate: Casey Anonthy

No I didn't.. I mentioned an inevitability.

Sorry to disappoint you but I've actually been on a jury and voted someone guilty.

it's not really a matter of control, the system prevailed, justice may not have.

The system (here anyway) is designed around the idea "innocent until proven guilty, the prosecution lacked said proof is all.

Despite people's radicals emotions, this was the only right conclusion to how the case was tried, if the prosecution would have done their job properly (and more than likely came from a different angle) she hopefully wouldn't be free now.

IMO: they should have proven negligence (which from what I've seen of it, they could have proven) and tried for negligent homicide, and it's max penalty.

Not murder, and the death penalty. Prosecution screwed up.

Without sufficient proof I assume? Way to get a gold star.

defense should have never allowed you on a jury...

So glad I don't live in the same country as you.

So that's how you get out of jury duty. Lol good back up plan to being racist.

I wish you all could hear yourselves. 'Sure Caylee was dead in the back of Casey's trunk, but where's the evidence that makes you think Casey had anything to do with it?' Proof beyond a reasonable doubt is entirely subjective, you're standards for connecting the dots are simply unreasonable.

If Casey didn't kill her, who did?

If Casey killed her and it was an accident, why didn't she tell anyone? Please name a few cases where accidental deaths weren't initially reported and were still proven to be accidents. I bet I can outnumber you and name homicides that weren't reported at least 1000 to 1.

Do you really think that someone would go through all that trouble to hide the body if it was an accident? Please name a few other examples where people have hidden bodies and were in the end innocent. I bet I could again outnumber you at least 1000 to 1.

If Caylee's dead body was in the trunk of Casey's car please list similar cases where the owner of a car (Casey) had their cars involved in deaths/murders and were legitimately ignorant of it. Again I bet I could outnumber you at least 1000 to 1.

You guys keep hanging your "unreasonable doubt" on things that aren't very reasonable.

Pointless debate is pointless. Everyone loses an internet argument.

circumstantial evidence isn't real evidence, they needed something substantial, there was nothing...

if there was, there wouldn't be reasonable doubt.

Nausi, all that stuff proves that Caylee died, and Casey was aware of her death. It doesn't prove that she killed her. I honestly think she should get more jail time, not only for lying to police, but for child abuse and/or neglect.

false. enough circumstantial evidence can certainly be enough to convict.

The prosecutor possibly had enough evidence to bring about a conviction. Arguably he just botched the delivery and focused on the wrong evidence. And well, trials are very much about perception.

not saying I really know what happened either way. just saying arguing that you know what's up won't change anything.

from what I've seen of it, there wasn't enough for a conviction, but I've only read post decision.

I wasn't there so meh.

As for circumstantial evidence being enough to convict, if the defense is poor and prosecution is great, probably, doesn't mean it should.

I never said Caylee was dead in the back of Casey's trunk. If they were able to prove that she was, I'm sure the verdict would have been different.

Maybe you? I don't know. That's the point, we don't know who killed her.

1000 to 1, that means there's still a chance it was an accident, and that's if you can even prove Casey was involved in the first place with the murder/accident itself and didn't find out about it postmortem and wasn't trying to cover up for someone else.

Again 1000 to 1 still means there's a chance, and it wasn't even established that she's the one who hid the body to begin with.

That's a big "if".

Prosecution overreached, blame them. They could have easily gotten her for negligence.

Not saying that circumstantial evidence was enough in this case, but you might be right that truly circumstantial testimony may require a prohibitively high burden of proof to convict.

However, motive, opportunity, circumstantial evidence, and physical evidence that isn't entirely conclusive on its own might be enough if all the other evidence is enough to strengthen the weak physical evidence.

Tiger, where u been? They found a hair strand from Caylee inside the trunk. The analytic conclusion was that it was from AFTER she had died.

That would still only place Caylee in her trunk. That does not mean she killed her which is what the prosecution was after.

Indeed, the dots here weren't enough though...

IMO anyway...

Unless they retracted it, I'm pretty sure I remember them saying they found a hair but were UNABLE TO confirm who it belonged to.

Exactly what I was thinking. Nasui clearly has no respect for the processes of the judiciary system.

Hmm I have a paper due in the morning, I wonder if I could write it on the judiciary process, unfortunately I don't have the patience for that...

Blegh.

http://www.wesh.com/casey-anthony-extended-coverage/28593647/detail.html?utm_source=manual&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=casey+updates

and if you'd prefer the much longer, NY Times version,
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/07/19/us/19casey.html?_r=2

Wow you're stupid.

The prosecution was stupid and went for murder one.

There wasn't enough evidence to convict for murder one. No matter how strong you think circumstantial evidence is, it wasn't strong enough.

End of story.

To tack onto this, it was also mentioned during the case that the search itself came right after viewing a comic on myspace drawn by a friend of hers where the punchline had to do with choloroform.

Yay for false logic by the American people!

Holy crap why didn't I look up how to make chloroform on the Internet before.

I am getting so laid tonight.

Thepeopleofwalmart.com found her!

She has dyed her hair blonde and has another child!

good find moldtech lol