Spanking Of Childrens

I think the point is that you can't simply keep telling someone you disagree with "No, you'll learn!" because it doesn't give your argument any strength. It's a decoy and indirectly an attack; it's saying "you're too naive to understand!"

If you really knew your argument well you would never say "You'll learn!" but you'd say "Well, what we know so far is [x] which has been shown to have some effect on [y]."

It's a cop-out.

Define: 'better'

You're wrong. I hope people with thoughts and ideals such as yours disappear over time through evolution of society. I do not respect you, because your beliefs are propped up with psuedo science and malice.

People who categorize others through inaccurate hypothesises, as well as base their worldview on such things do not deserve respect. They deserve pity and mental assistance.

There are always shades of gray Jet...

Telling someone who doesn't have a child yet that they are 'too naive to understand', is the truth, not a cop out.

This is one area in which hands on training is the only method of understanding. All the preparation in the world does not prepare one for having a child. Does it give one a head start? Maybe, in some instances, but it's not even a better tutor than intuition and instinct.

Nothing says "loving, compassionate upbringing" quite like a superiority complex and ruling with an iron fist, right Jet?

He means in the way they think of themselves... cuz obviously people he considers to be far less intelligent are leading far more successful lives...

Our society has degraded itself to social media and arguing over the internet. I doubt any one in this age is living a better life than 'dumber' people a century ago.

If you aren't spanking your kids you're doing it wrong. To restrict the right to do that is limiting parent's authority. With less to fear, kids act out more and disobey.

Moral of the story, spank your kids.

I think the same about most of you, so feel free to feel that way, more civilized societies than this one beg to agree with me.


not always...

superior


define success, you have no idea what I do, or what I've accomplished, nor am I about to go waving my life around as some sort of epeen.

No it's not. You're biased because it helps fit your argument.

I'm not even trying to attack you. Pets teach you how to deal with babies, basically (although there are differences, it is similar in that you are being the provider for an animal that does not have the ability to provide for itself). You can recall how people treated you and what you know of your life's worth of interactions and apply that to how to treat youngsters. Teenagers? Hah, you could remember what worked and what didn't on you when you were a teen, you're mind is developed enough. By then you should know your kids well enough.

Besides, we've got millions of years of evolution working in us. If homo ergaster could take care of babies, I assure you that we can.

If you are spanking your kids, you're abusing them and doing it wrong.

I hope you don't have or will ever have children.

oh and this person, don't always agree, but I do respect.

Yes clearly it's abuse and not the most basic of parental instincts in most species that nurture their children. Clearly Ject is smarter than life it's self.
Shut Up Ject. Please.
We get it your parents spanked you and you don't think they loved you.

Same with you, Jet.

I'm not sure yet if I agree or disagree on your stance with this, but I agree with your methods of arguing it.

Why am I biased, and how is this helping my argument?

And all of what you gave as examples help, they don't completely prepare you. Each individual is different, in other words your child will not be identical to you. The things that worked on you may not necessarily work on your child. I was spanked like 3x in my life and the fact that I didn't want to be anymore kept me from doing anything requiring another. My oldest child has no respect and spankings mean nothing to him (they work momentarily, but it doesn't change his behavior long term). His personality, fears, ideas are different from mine. I have a feeling I will be dealing with very different misbehaviors than my parents did with me.

Your argument is null and void.

Because you have nothing to wave around ^^

Right back at ya buddy. Maybe your kind will die off or change your ways, can't wait for that to happen. Just wish ya'll would hurry.

Sylph.Systematicchaos



How fitting. Almost made me spit my morning coffee on the screen laughing.

My mother's inability to parent (in retrospect) was blatantly obvious, however thankfully I managed to steer myself away from a lot of her bad habits.

Thing about being civil is we learn to do things that aren't exactly in nature, ie: most human rights.

If by more civilized you mean they adhere themselves to more rules, then yes, perhaps they do. Perhaps they don't. If you're thinking about it in any other way, then they are not. They just have a different set of rules to go by. All 29 or so of them. Out of 195. I'm curious as to how they enforce the law they make about spanking. Constant surveillance in people's private lives? That would be the only reliable way to do it. I'm also curious as to whether or not the people of each of those 29 countries actually put it to a true democratic vote. For some reason I doubt that they did.

Not even trying to start a fight with this one, but Jet, this is why people here give you so much crap. Sure, everyone's entitled to an opinion, but when you approach anyone who's not on your side, you let loose with this crap.

Normal person: "I disagree with spanking, I think it's barbaric."

Jet: "I hope you never have children, are arrested for abusing children, and I hope you are wiped off the face of the earth." He's said all these things at different points, I just put them together. Blah blah something logic.

Seriously, get the stick out of your ***. Agree/disagree, it's all part of a civil conversation. But when you openly attack others and wish malice against them, you aren't having a civil conversation anymore. You turn it into a fight and wonder why everyone gives you crap about it. You deserve absolutely no respect, and the worst kind of pity.

It's unlikely that the more advanced humans will die off in the direction the world is going (and has been for a long time) but you can keep your misguided hope.

You may have steered yourself away, but I hate to break it to you...you're still an idiot.

Thank you for helping to debunk Xueye's argument. Having a pet does not certify you to be a parent. Having a pet involves feeding, watering and maybe walking and changing out a bed. It isn't anywhere near the same level of involvement and responsibility of a human child. I hope for your (future) children's sake, you open yourself to learning as you raise them.

Glad you enjoyed it.

Have you not seen WALL-E? That's where we are headed; backwards. The best and the brightest will light the way for the weakest to reproduce and take over.

There's a logical flaw in a pure democracy, hence why we don't have one.

most of those 29 are some of the mot advanced nations in the world and are best known for improved human rights, so far that they put America's to shame. Even if the law isn't 100% enforcable, the fact that it's on the books and that they have the mindset for it, is enough to start with, because the mindset that it's okay to abuse children is what needs to stop.


I don't have respect for people who abuse their children, and I will not give them it. Right back at ya.

Indeed learning, however abusing them isn't in the lesson plan.

Disciplining children to protect them from hurting themselves in a much more harsh and permanent way is hardly abuse.