Spanking Of Childrens

More like Texas is flawed.

Shooting somebody for not leaving your property is assault, murder (or attempted) nor is it civil.

Unfortunately Texas is *** backwards.

Unless some sort of self defense, which isn't assault.

Yes. Call the police, like a civilized person with a domestic dispute.

In the US, I'd be concerned that scenario could easily turn into some really absurd lawsuit or arrest.

Seriously, if I were to try and prevent someone I care for from doing something explicitly idiotic such as driving out while wasted on alcohol, I'd simply take and keep the keys. /problom? Tell me about it tomorrow morning.

But honestly, this has nothing to do with the Topic, which started off with some simple /spanking on kids. No punching. No beating. Just a spank. Why even push beyond that concept if not to cause drama?

Trespassing is an acceptable justification to trigger the lethal use of force in the name of self defense.

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It's a last resort, but I don't feel it should be outlawed.. I've only spanked my son a couple of times. I have lots of other methods of 'persuasion' to get him to act right, that usually works.

Besides if you do it all the time, it loses it's effectiveness. They just get used to it.

In the US, I'd be concerned that scenario could easily turn into some really absurd lawsuit or arrest.

Seriously, if I were to try and prevent someone I care for from doing something explicitly idiotic such as driving out while wasted on alcohol, I'd simply take and keep the keys. /problom? Tell me about it tomorrow morning.

But honestly, this has nothing to do with the Topic, which started off with some simple /spanking on kids. No punching. No beating. Just a spank. Why even push beyond that concept if not to cause drama?

Only for ignorant rednecks, not for civilized persons.

Unless they are posing an immediate threat, ie: toting a knife or gun, it's not acceptable.

idk, they were somewhere else, drank, and got a ride home or something, who knows.

You can think its unacceptable all you want, but according to common law its quite acceptable. How long should you wait to find out someone is out to kill you? Can you only shoot them after you get stabbed/shot?

EDIT: being on your property without your permission is enough to classify them as an immediate threat.

Only for ignorant rednecks, not for civilized persons.

Unless they are posing an immediate threat, ie: toting a knife or gun, it's not acceptable.

So, if someone were to break into my house, to rob the place, and then rape me that's acceptable?

Let's not be concerned with the fact that I could have prevented it by defending myself. If you're going to suggest hand-to-hand. I'm 5'7" and 116 pounds.

So, if someone were to break into my house, to rob the place, and then rape me that's acceptable?

Let's not be concerned with the fact that I could have prevented it by defending myself. If you're going to suggest hand-to-hand. I'm 5'7" and 116 pounds.

So, if someone were to break into my house, to rob the place, and then rape me that's acceptable?

Let's not be concerned with the fact that I could have prevented it by defending myself. If you're going to suggest hand-to-hand. I'm 5'7" and 116 pounds.

Our 1st child was born and my wife SWORE she would never spank her. When the occasion warranted it I had no problem with a swift 1 or 2 quick swats to the rear.

At about the age of 3 my family was out somewhere and I had wandered off to within earshot but out of visual range. I heard my wife give the "do you want a time out?" speech about 3 times, time outs were the punishment of choice for Mrs. Bizzy, and yet my daughter continued to misbehave. As I rounded the corner I simply said if she didn't behave I would spank her. INSTANT attitude reversal and manner change.

Baffled my wife asked me, "Why does she always listen to you and never me? I don't understand." etc etc. My immediate answer was that I had spanked her before, she knew I would do it, and didn't want it again. ~2 weeks later after a few very gentle spankings later my wife got the same instant behavior change too. Did she change her mind? Hell yes she did.

Call it fear, call it abuse, call it whatever you want. Even 1 generation ago children/teens taking knives or other weapons to school NEVER happened. Kids pulling half the stunts they pull now NEVER happened. They would simply not do it cause they KNEW they would be in a world of **it when Dad found out about it. Now go back further to 2 or 3 generations and the change in child behavior is even more drastic.

Now our son, he gives a rats tail if u spank him. For him, the time outs work better. Recent events form a perfect example. He loves to run in the house, @ 2 its all he can do to keep up with the big ppls. The minute you tell him NOT to run and sit his you know what in a chair? Instant tears.

Part of parenting is learning your kids not just teaching them.

I believe only when it's necessary.

For one, it doesn't hurt. It's more the embarrassment and the fear of pain than anything. Case in point, I once watched my uncle turn my cousin over his knee, place one hand over her butt, then spank his hand-- not touching her in the least, but acting as though he was spanking her, accompanied by the noise of getting hit. She bawled her eyes out, although she hadn't even been hit.

It's the same with dogs. You can roll up a newspaper and smack a puppy across the butt with it, and they know right away that they are in trouble. Later, you can roll up a newspaper and smack your hand with it, and you'll likely get the same reaction from the dog without having to even pretend to hit them.

Also, in comparisons to other types of punishments, it really seems rather tame. Since my parents were divorced, I was able to have experience getting two different types of discipline. My father and stepmother would never spank. Instead, they'd give me a guilt trip-- essentially, they'd sit me down and tell me how disappointed they were in me and how I was an embarrassment to them. After a childhood of guilt trips, it took literally years after not living with them anymore to teach myself to stop apologizing after everything I did or said, whether it needed an apology or not. Also, now if I know they won't agree with something, I simply don't tell them. They do not know that I am no longer religious, and they'll never know. They do not know that I think gays should be allowed to marry and have equal rights, and they'll never know. There's a lot of things that they will simply never know, because I have no intention of dealing with the massive guilt trip that would follow.

However, my mother and stepfather spanked me when I needed it. And five minutes later when my butt stopped stinging, I was fine. There were no years of negative aftermath from it, and I'm much closer to my mom today than I am to my stepmother, although my stepmother is the one who raised me. My mom is the one who knows I have tattoos and drink whiskey and like jello shots and wear my shorts a little too short sometimes. She's the one who still has a significant role in my life. And I believe it's because I'm not afraid of what her reaction would be if she disapproved of something I did. I know she'd love me anyways, whether my choice would have been her choice or not. I don't have that guarantee of love from my stepmother. I'd simply be told what an awful disappointment I am to her.

However, I do think it should be only on an as-necessary basis. If you can get by with just telling your kid no, or grounding them, or something mild like that, then by all means do that first. It's only when they absolutely need spanked that they should get spanked.

It's still abuse and assault.

I can't wait for the day you and your kind and your backwards way of thinking is gone from this world.

As for children/teens not taking knives to school, man you're delusional.

Psychological discipline can be far more detrimental to a child than a swift kick to the butt (or spanking).

He's talking about teens from like the 1970's and earlier versus today's youth.

It's still abuse and assault.

I can't wait for the day you and your kind and your backwards way of thinking is gone from this world.

As for children/teens not taking knives to school, man you're delusional.

Again, delusional.

Then again until the newer anti-gang anti-school violence age it was okay to bring them to school...

I feel like we've done this dance before.

Depends on the area, and at least in Virginia we're not backwards enough to not require that they must pose an immediate threat.

as for your edit, no it isn't.

Yes it is, you are wrong

By your teaching, your kids will likely be the ones bringing shotguns to school, simply because there will have been no one yelling at them "What the hell do you think you are doing".

But, oh wait, even yelling is probably abuse, to your opinion at least.
The fact you are wishing for those who are contrary to your opinion to vanish from the face of the earth should tell enough of how "civil" and respectful you really are though.