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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-06-19 23:32:04
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: Yes because you decide single-handedly what is civil and what is not.. Calling religious people stupid isn't subjective, it's fact, and it's freedom of speech, yet talking about God in a funeral is neither, and people who rudely and disrespectfully interrupt a funeral to make their point on how much they dislike religion is okay/acceptable/civil, also swatting a child on the *** once with an open fist is the same as punching them in the face repeatedly with a closed fist (I can go find the post where you said just that in case you want to try and back track).
Civil isn't what you say it is, civil is what is socially acceptable or justifiable.
Civil goes past what society accepts.
Assault is assault, it doesn't matter where you hit them, or why.
Interrupting a funeral to express your viewpoint is legal, and the supreme court agrees, regardless if you dislike it.
Goes for atheists just as well as the WBC.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-06-19 23:33:58
zahrah said: Jet, do you have children? More than likely, you wouldn't know what you would do until that time has arrived. That is why I have kept my mouth shut on the subject. Unless you have children, you should do the same.
This argument is illogical, despite how common it is.
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: No he doesn't have children. We've been over this before with him.. And I've told him his values are very likely going to change if he ever does.. But he says no.. Just like all teenagers think they're right and they have it all figured out.. ***changes quick.
I'm far from being a teenager, and I'm not going to simply "change my mind" on something that's horribly wrong.
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By Asura.Alymorel 2011-06-19 23:34:01
zahrah said: Asura.Alymorel said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Asura.Alymorel said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Valefor.Slipispsycho said: Here we go.. Wish I had time to go get some popcorn, but it's bed time..
P.S. In a civilized society people would be free to worship (or not) what they want without someone telling them how stupid they are..
In a civilized society people have the freedom of speech, which includes being able to call somebody stupid when they are being stupid. Faith (by definition) is stupid. Yes, people have freedom of speech in a civilized society, but it's also civil to not call said person stupid. that's subjective Never knew it was polite to call someone stupid.
Well Jet, I think you and your views are stupid. ^^ Have a nice day!
P.S. @ Vyre: I'm sorry that happened to you. ; ; I know all too well what that's like. :{ /hug
Don't worry, Aly. He often posts just to be contrary. "Grain of salt," I say.
/comfort Eh, I'm just gonna make it a point to tell him he's an idiot when I can because it's the polite thing to do according to him. ^^ I like being a courteous, amiable person.
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By Asura.Vyre 2011-06-19 23:34:15
Asura.Alymorel said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Asura.Alymorel said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Valefor.Slipispsycho said: Here we go.. Wish I had time to go get some popcorn, but it's bed time.. P.S. In a civilized society people would be free to worship (or not) what they want without someone telling them how stupid they are.. In a civilized society people have the freedom of speech, which includes being able to call somebody stupid when they are being stupid. Faith (by definition) is stupid. Yes, people have freedom of speech in a civilized society, but it's also civil to not call said person stupid. that's subjective Never knew it was polite to call someone stupid. Well Jet, I think you and your views are stupid. ^^ Have a nice day! P.S. @ Vyre: I'm sorry that happened to you. ; ; I know all too well what that's like. :{ /hug Stuff like that only happened a few times. Not too big a deal really. At least for me. I mean, somewhat it left a bitter taste in my mouth, but at the same time I have a hard time not forgiving people. Especially when weighed against all the times my pops has been wonderful.
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By Valefor.Slipispsycho 2011-06-19 23:34:18
If assault was assault it wouldn't be legal to shoot someone in Texas when they're on your property and you tell them to leave and they refuse.. That's not civil, and it's still assault, justified or not. Your logic is flawed.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-06-19 23:35:05
zahrah said: Jet, do you have children? More than likely, you wouldn't know what you would do until that time has arrived. That is why I have kept my mouth shut on the subject. Unless you have children, you should do the same.
That's where having puppies or kittens helps, to some far stretched extent. Once you realize they need to be taught a few things in order to grow, you realize the very first steps to becoming a father/mother figure and having to deal with bad behavior and such.
A bit of spanking will do, but for the most part you need to show an infinite amount of loving care and attention
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By Asura.Vyre 2011-06-19 23:37:31
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Valefor.Slipispsycho said: Yes because you decide single-handedly what is civil and what is not.. Calling religious people stupid isn't subjective, it's fact, and it's freedom of speech, yet talking about God in a funeral is neither, and people who rudely and disrespectfully interrupt a funeral to make their point on how much they dislike religion is okay/acceptable/civil, also swatting a child on the *** once with an open fist is the same as punching them in the face repeatedly with a closed fist (I can go find the post where you said just that in case you want to try and back track). Civil isn't what you say it is, civil is what is socially acceptable or justifiable. Civil goes past what society accepts. Assault is assault, it doesn't matter where you hit them, or why. Interrupting a funeral to express your viewpoint is legal, and the supreme court agrees, regardless if you dislike it. Goes for atheists just as well as the WBC. By virtue of the definition of what civil means, it does not go past what society accepts, because it is exactly what society accepts.
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By Carbuncle.Frazee 2011-06-19 23:39:13
It is really sad that people equate a swat on the bottom to punching a kid in the face. The people out there that are so against disciplining their child are the reason there are kids running around, screaming at the tops of their lungs, pulling things off shelves, etc.
I don't think ANYONE in this forum is condoning punching a child in the face.
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By Ragnarok.Raenil 2011-06-19 23:39:58
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Beating/using violence against children who can't defend themselves is about as far from civil as you can get. Implying a swat on the butt and getting punched are the same thing? A spanking and a beating are far different, as far as I'm concerned. Getting punched and thrown into walls by my sperm donor when I was a pre-schooler has given me quite a bit of insight on the matter.
You make it sound like you can't abuse other forms of punishment. or that all children react to different forms of punishment the same way.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-06-19 23:45:09
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: If assault was assault it wouldn't be legal to shoot someone in Texas when they're on your property and you tell them to leave and they refuse.. That's not civil, and it's still assault, justified or not. Your logic is flawed.
More like Texas is flawed.
Shooting somebody for not leaving your property is assault, murder (or attempted) nor is it civil.
Unfortunately Texas is *** backwards.
Unless some sort of self defense, which isn't assault.
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By zahrah 2011-06-19 23:45:51
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: zahrah said: Jet, do you have children? More than likely, you wouldn't know what you would do until that time has arrived. That is why I have kept my mouth shut on the subject. Unless you have children, you should do the same.
This argument is illogical, despite how common it is.
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: No he doesn't have children. We've been over this before with him.. And I've told him his values are very likely going to change if he ever does.. But he says no.. Just like all teenagers think they're right and they have it all figured out.. ***changes quick.
I'm far from being a teenager, and I'm not going to simply "change my mind" on something that's horribly wrong.
You seem to despite EVERYTHING! Never have I once seen you be remotely fun-loving, amiable or share a joke with anyone on this site!
I'm not the only one who detests the continual ***attitude you bring to this community!!!
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-06-19 23:49:03
Carbuncle.Frazee said: It is really sad that people equate a swat on the bottom to punching a kid in the face. The people out there that are so against disciplining their child are the reason there are kids running around, screaming at the tops of their lungs, pulling things off shelves, etc.
I don't think ANYONE in this forum is condoning punching a child in the face. Ragnarok.Raenil said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Beating/using violence against children who can't defend themselves is about as far from civil as you can get. Implying a swat on the butt and getting punched are the same thing? A spanking and a beating are far different, as far as I'm concerned. Getting punched and thrown into walls by my sperm donor when I was a pre-schooler has given me quite a bit of insight on the matter.
You make it sound like you can't abuse other forms of punishment. or that all children react to different forms of punishment the same way.
No the reason people run around etc is because fail parents are fail parents.
A spanking and a punch are not that different.
Americans (and other less civilized places in the world) just need to eventually get used to the fact that abuse isn't a good way to discipline children.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-06-19 23:49:17
Jetacku (or w/e)'s logic makes me scratch my head in confusion.
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By Asura.Vyre 2011-06-19 23:49:44
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Valefor.Slipispsycho said: If assault was assault it wouldn't be legal to shoot someone in Texas when they're on your property and you tell them to leave and they refuse.. That's not civil, and it's still assault, justified or not. Your logic is flawed. More like Texas is flawed. Shooting somebody for not leaving your property is assault, murder (or attempted) nor is it civil. Unfortunately Texas is *** backwards. Unless some sort of self defense, which isn't assault. No, it's a defense of your property and livelihood. It's actualyl a common law across the USA and is widely accepted. It's civil. Especially when said person is trying to steal your car, set your house on fire, and do other malicious things etc.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-06-19 23:50:45
zahrah said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: zahrah said: Jet, do you have children? More than likely, you wouldn't know what you would do until that time has arrived. That is why I have kept my mouth shut on the subject. Unless you have children, you should do the same.
This argument is illogical, despite how common it is.
Valefor.Slipispsycho said: No he doesn't have children. We've been over this before with him.. And I've told him his values are very likely going to change if he ever does.. But he says no.. Just like all teenagers think they're right and they have it all figured out.. ***changes quick.
I'm far from being a teenager, and I'm not going to simply "change my mind" on something that's horribly wrong.
You seem to despite EVERYTHING! Never have I once seen you be remotely fun-loving, amiable or share a joke with anyone on this site!
I'm not the only one who detests the continual ***attitude you bring to this community!!!
It's not my fault you don't pay attention.
Nor is it my fault that you consider that all I have is a "***attitude".
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By Carbuncle.Frazee 2011-06-19 23:52:30
zahrah said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: zahrah said: Jet, do you have children? More than likely, you wouldn't know what you would do until that time has arrived. That is why I have kept my mouth shut on the subject. Unless you have children, you should do the same. This argument is illogical, despite how common it is. Valefor.Slipispsycho said: No he doesn't have children. We've been over this before with him.. And I've told him his values are very likely going to change if he ever does.. But he says no.. Just like all teenagers think they're right and they have it all figured out.. ***changes quick. I'm far from being a teenager, and I'm not going to simply "change my mind" on something that's horribly wrong. You seem to despite EVERYTHING! Never have I once seen you be remotely fun-loving, amiable or share a joke with anyone on this site! I'm not the only one who detests the continual ***attitude you bring to this community!!!
Ah, I am new to all these forums, I didn't realize he was one of those types. I will keep that in mind.
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By Carbuncle.Frazee 2011-06-19 23:54:08
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: Jetacku (or w/e)'s logic makes me scratch my head in confusion.
lol
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-06-19 23:54:22
Carbuncle.Frazee said: zahrah said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: zahrah said: Jet, do you have children? More than likely, you wouldn't know what you would do until that time has arrived. That is why I have kept my mouth shut on the subject. Unless you have children, you should do the same. This argument is illogical, despite how common it is. Valefor.Slipispsycho said: No he doesn't have children. We've been over this before with him.. And I've told him his values are very likely going to change if he ever does.. But he says no.. Just like all teenagers think they're right and they have it all figured out.. ***changes quick. I'm far from being a teenager, and I'm not going to simply "change my mind" on something that's horribly wrong. You seem to despite EVERYTHING! Never have I once seen you be remotely fun-loving, amiable or share a joke with anyone on this site! I'm not the only one who detests the continual ***attitude you bring to this community!!!
Ah, I am new to all these forums, I didn't realize he was one of those types. I will keep that in mind.
These forums are vast. Some people will frequent certain topics and argue/troll over certain arguments more than others. Don't let them get you. /shares a cookie.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-06-19 23:54:57
Shiva.Flionheart said: Valefor.Slipispsycho said: <_< This has been brought up multiple times before, it's almost as bad as religion threads in terms of drama..
It's a last resort, but I don't feel it should be outlawed.. I've only spanked my son a couple of times. I have lots of other methods of 'persuasion' to get him to act right, that usually works.
The only person who turns it into drama is Jet. Just pre-emptively topicban him >.> Quoted from page 1.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-06-19 23:55:02
Asura.Vyre said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Valefor.Slipispsycho said: If assault was assault it wouldn't be legal to shoot someone in Texas when they're on your property and you tell them to leave and they refuse.. That's not civil, and it's still assault, justified or not. Your logic is flawed. More like Texas is flawed. Shooting somebody for not leaving your property is assault, murder (or attempted) nor is it civil. Unfortunately Texas is *** backwards. Unless some sort of self defense, which isn't assault. No, it's a defense of your property and livelihood. It's actualyl a common law across the USA and is widely accepted. It's civil. Especially when said person is trying to steal your car, set your house on fire, and do other malicious things etc.
Unless it's to protect life, use of deadly force is illegal in just about all of those places (to be checked) and any place that it's not, is *** backwards.
It's definitely far from civil to possibly kill somebody unless it's to protect life.
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By zahrah 2011-06-19 23:55:10
Carbuncle.Frazee said: zahrah said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: zahrah said: Jet, do you have children? More than likely, you wouldn't know what you would do until that time has arrived. That is why I have kept my mouth shut on the subject. Unless you have children, you should do the same. This argument is illogical, despite how common it is. Valefor.Slipispsycho said: No he doesn't have children. We've been over this before with him.. And I've told him his values are very likely going to change if he ever does.. But he says no.. Just like all teenagers think they're right and they have it all figured out.. ***changes quick. I'm far from being a teenager, and I'm not going to simply "change my mind" on something that's horribly wrong. You seem to despite EVERYTHING! Never have I once seen you be remotely fun-loving, amiable or share a joke with anyone on this site! I'm not the only one who detests the continual ***attitude you bring to this community!!!
Ah, I am new to all these forums, I didn't realize he was one of those types. I will keep that in mind.
Watch him roll. He's a silly little creature.
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By Carbuncle.Frazee 2011-06-19 23:56:08
Odin.Sheelay said: Carbuncle.Frazee said: zahrah said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: zahrah said: Jet, do you have children? More than likely, you wouldn't know what you would do until that time has arrived. That is why I have kept my mouth shut on the subject. Unless you have children, you should do the same. This argument is illogical, despite how common it is. Valefor.Slipispsycho said: No he doesn't have children. We've been over this before with him.. And I've told him his values are very likely going to change if he ever does.. But he says no.. Just like all teenagers think they're right and they have it all figured out.. ***changes quick. I'm far from being a teenager, and I'm not going to simply "change my mind" on something that's horribly wrong. You seem to despite EVERYTHING! Never have I once seen you be remotely fun-loving, amiable or share a joke with anyone on this site! I'm not the only one who detests the continual ***attitude you bring to this community!!! Ah, I am new to all these forums, I didn't realize he was one of those types. I will keep that in mind. These forums are vast. Some people will frequent certain topics and argue/troll over certain arguments more than others. Don't let them get you. /shares a cookie.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-06-19 23:57:16
Leviathan.Chaosx said: Shiva.Flionheart said: Valefor.Slipispsycho said: <_< This has been brought up multiple times before, it's almost as bad as religion threads in terms of drama..
It's a last resort, but I don't feel it should be outlawed.. I've only spanked my son a couple of times. I have lots of other methods of 'persuasion' to get him to act right, that usually works.
The only person who turns it into drama is Jet. Just pre-emptively topicban him >.> Quoted from page 1.
Not causing drama, intentionally.
Just have severe disagreement with most people on here about this subject.
I'm sorry but I don't find it necessary to abuse their children because they lack the ability to properly discipline them, I find the same about parents who medicate their children for the same reason.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-06-19 23:57:45
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Asura.Vyre said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Valefor.Slipispsycho said: If assault was assault it wouldn't be legal to shoot someone in Texas when they're on your property and you tell them to leave and they refuse.. That's not civil, and it's still assault, justified or not. Your logic is flawed. More like Texas is flawed. Shooting somebody for not leaving your property is assault, murder (or attempted) nor is it civil. Unfortunately Texas is *** backwards. Unless some sort of self defense, which isn't assault. No, it's a defense of your property and livelihood. It's actualyl a common law across the USA and is widely accepted. It's civil. Especially when said person is trying to steal your car, set your house on fire, and do other malicious things etc.
Unless it's to protect life, use of deadly force is illegal in just about all of those places (to be checked) and any place that it's not, is *** backwards.
It's definitely far from civil to possibly kill somebody unless it's to protect life.
Say your kid was drunk and going to go driving (they're at home with you atm, say they walked home drunk), and they wouldn't listen to you no matter what you would do, they were determined to push past you and get to a vehicle. Would it be legal to "assault" them to keep them in the house and potentially protect their life?
/insert that dinosaur scratching his head meme
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-06-19 23:58:21
Carbuncle.Frazee said: zahrah said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: zahrah said: Jet, do you have children? More than likely, you wouldn't know what you would do until that time has arrived. That is why I have kept my mouth shut on the subject. Unless you have children, you should do the same. This argument is illogical, despite how common it is. Valefor.Slipispsycho said: No he doesn't have children. We've been over this before with him.. And I've told him his values are very likely going to change if he ever does.. But he says no.. Just like all teenagers think they're right and they have it all figured out.. ***changes quick. I'm far from being a teenager, and I'm not going to simply "change my mind" on something that's horribly wrong. You seem to despite EVERYTHING! Never have I once seen you be remotely fun-loving, amiable or share a joke with anyone on this site! I'm not the only one who detests the continual ***attitude you bring to this community!!!
Ah, I am new to all these forums, I didn't realize he was one of those types. I will keep that in mind.
I'm not one of those types, however I disagree (strongly) with a few key points.
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By Bahamut.Jetackuu 2011-06-19 23:59:24
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Asura.Vyre said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Valefor.Slipispsycho said: If assault was assault it wouldn't be legal to shoot someone in Texas when they're on your property and you tell them to leave and they refuse.. That's not civil, and it's still assault, justified or not. Your logic is flawed. More like Texas is flawed. Shooting somebody for not leaving your property is assault, murder (or attempted) nor is it civil. Unfortunately Texas is *** backwards. Unless some sort of self defense, which isn't assault. No, it's a defense of your property and livelihood. It's actualyl a common law across the USA and is widely accepted. It's civil. Especially when said person is trying to steal your car, set your house on fire, and do other malicious things etc.
Unless it's to protect life, use of deadly force is illegal in just about all of those places (to be checked) and any place that it's not, is *** backwards.
It's definitely far from civil to possibly kill somebody unless it's to protect life.
Say your kid was drunk and going to go driving (they're at home with you atm, say they walked home drunk), and they wouldn't listen to you no matter what you would do, they were determined to push past you and get to a vehicle. Would it be legal to "assault" them to keep them in the house and potentially protect their life?
/insert that dinosaur scratching his head meme
Yes. Call the police, like a civilized person with a domestic dispute.
By olan 2011-06-19 23:59:26
I don't have kids at the moment so I guess I'll stick to spanking other people's kids for now.
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-06-20 00:00:46
Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Leviathan.Hohenheim said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Asura.Vyre said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Valefor.Slipispsycho said: If assault was assault it wouldn't be legal to shoot someone in Texas when they're on your property and you tell them to leave and they refuse.. That's not civil, and it's still assault, justified or not. Your logic is flawed. More like Texas is flawed. Shooting somebody for not leaving your property is assault, murder (or attempted) nor is it civil. Unfortunately Texas is *** backwards. Unless some sort of self defense, which isn't assault. No, it's a defense of your property and livelihood. It's actualyl a common law across the USA and is widely accepted. It's civil. Especially when said person is trying to steal your car, set your house on fire, and do other malicious things etc.
Unless it's to protect life, use of deadly force is illegal in just about all of those places (to be checked) and any place that it's not, is *** backwards.
It's definitely far from civil to possibly kill somebody unless it's to protect life.
Say your kid was drunk and going to go driving (they're at home with you atm, say they walked home drunk), and they wouldn't listen to you no matter what you would do, they were determined to push past you and get to a vehicle. Would it be legal to "assault" them to keep them in the house and potentially protect their life?
/insert that dinosaur scratching his head meme
Yes. Call the police, like a civilized person with a domestic dispute.
lol, what the *** are the police going to do? magically teleport to your house and arrest your kid? I *** think not. You must be a total tool of society to honesty do that.
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By Leviathan.Chaosx 2011-06-20 00:00:54
Leviathan.Hohenheim said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Asura.Vyre said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Valefor.Slipispsycho said: If assault was assault it wouldn't be legal to shoot someone in Texas when they're on your property and you tell them to leave and they refuse.. That's not civil, and it's still assault, justified or not. Your logic is flawed. More like Texas is flawed. Shooting somebody for not leaving your property is assault, murder (or attempted) nor is it civil. Unfortunately Texas is *** backwards. Unless some sort of self defense, which isn't assault. No, it's a defense of your property and livelihood. It's actualyl a common law across the USA and is widely accepted. It's civil. Especially when said person is trying to steal your car, set your house on fire, and do other malicious things etc.
Unless it's to protect life, use of deadly force is illegal in just about all of those places (to be checked) and any place that it's not, is *** backwards.
It's definitely far from civil to possibly kill somebody unless it's to protect life.
Say your kid was drunk and going to go driving (they're at home with you atm, say they walked home drunk), and they wouldn't listen to you no matter what you would do, they were determined to push past you and get to a vehicle. Would it be legal to "assault" them to keep them in the house and potentially protect their life?
/insert that dinosaur scratching his head meme Why is your kid drinking?! That's like illegal man.
(Assuming teenager)
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By Leviathan.Hohenheim 2011-06-20 00:02:09
Leviathan.Chaosx said: Leviathan.Hohenheim said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Asura.Vyre said: Bahamut.Jetackuu said: Valefor.Slipispsycho said: If assault was assault it wouldn't be legal to shoot someone in Texas when they're on your property and you tell them to leave and they refuse.. That's not civil, and it's still assault, justified or not. Your logic is flawed. More like Texas is flawed. Shooting somebody for not leaving your property is assault, murder (or attempted) nor is it civil. Unfortunately Texas is *** backwards. Unless some sort of self defense, which isn't assault. No, it's a defense of your property and livelihood. It's actualyl a common law across the USA and is widely accepted. It's civil. Especially when said person is trying to steal your car, set your house on fire, and do other malicious things etc.
Unless it's to protect life, use of deadly force is illegal in just about all of those places (to be checked) and any place that it's not, is *** backwards.
It's definitely far from civil to possibly kill somebody unless it's to protect life.
Say your kid was drunk and going to go driving (they're at home with you atm, say they walked home drunk), and they wouldn't listen to you no matter what you would do, they were determined to push past you and get to a vehicle. Would it be legal to "assault" them to keep them in the house and potentially protect their life?
/insert that dinosaur scratching his head meme Why is your kid drinking?! That's like illegal man.
(Assuming teenager)
idk, they were somewhere else, drank, and got a ride home or something, who knows.
So, was having this debate on whether spanking is still an applicable technique or not in these times on facebook and wanted to drop in and see what XI thought on the matter.
Always
Sometimes
Only when you really feel its necessary
Never
Or anything in between.
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