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By Artemicion 2011-03-22 01:37:59
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I find it unsettling and awkward that I've lost most, if not all interest in relationships or the fruit it bears; regardless of gender.
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2011-03-22 01:38:09
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so this one time, there was this chick in highschool that was obsessed with me...(I'm a dude) and I made it plain and clear to her that I wasn't interested. She kept trying to pursue to no avail, and I guess she held a grudge. Every girl I ever tried to get with in highschool mysteriously started hanging out with this girl that was obsessed with me.She became the biggest cockblock I've ever seen.. She would talk ***on me to any girl that I showed the slightest interest towards and make them think I wasn't worth it. After ruining something that could have been great, she would then turn around and try to get with me... This pretty much ruined any relationships I could have had in highschool and she still does ***like this to this day.

So I have no idea what to do about it ... Ive tried being mean to her (I've been quite the douchebag irl), if I could describe hatred in the best way I could, it would be my feelings towards her lol

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By Hades.Stefanos 2011-03-22 01:39:15
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I'm not bashing you Quetz, I'm just going to point out if a girl is saying "you don't love me" there's a decent chance you're either not giving her enough attention, or there's something else going on. Of course, she could just be completely insane, but I'd think even if that were the case *something* set her off. You don't just go out and accuse someone of not loving you with nothing to go off of.
Well, I was level 75 on RDM as my first job, and she was a level 40-ish SAM, so we couldn't exactly do all the same things I did. I was doing Sky and Dynamis as well as leveling up with a specific group of friends, but I would have respected her more if she understood rather than complained...and then I would gladly spend my time with her. Yes, I may not have given her enough attention, but I gave all I could give. I can't say I didn't try. Then there was a point where I didn't talk to her for almost a month because I thought she decided to call it quits with me.

It was really difficult, because she had the kind of low self-esteem that felt almost crazy, and it made me feel powerless because I often felt like there was nothing I could do. I didn't know what would cheer her up. At the same time, it was the first time someone was actually interested in me...so I didn't have many relationship skills then. It could have been tons of factors, really.
meeting and holding her would be the main way to break that insecurity yeah. Just a moment for a good hug, it means the world to most and I don't mean it had to turn sexual. But in game yeah, a lot harder to overcome > <
Man, that would've meant worlds of relief for the both of us. Oh and she lives(or lived) in California and I live in Michigan...imagine that one.

Just thinking back on it makes me so pessimistic about females that I'm practically convicing myself that I'll never have a chance in real life. :\
yeah that's part of why I didn't want to enable dwelling on it. you got this.

As for distance, when my ex fiance and I weren't living together we were stuck in Canada and the UK, 3000+ miles for months. So I can imagine lol > <


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Unicorn.Marrs said:
i'll *especially* get flamed for posting in this thread.

but as far as advice i can give about going up to someone and talking to them be them a girl (maybe it applies to guys?), (because face it, this is where people generally always have the problem, the approach aka bravery, i mean if all your past gf's are friends that you've talked to before and you've only ever gotten with them by expressing how you feel online, face it, thats kinda sad and dependant on your amount of friends, which is limited/finite), practice vie not flirting. just talk. get good at that, and move up from there. even if that means starting at something thats as small as a smile, or a passing by "hi" to someone thats simply just making eye contact.

Don't try. I essentially said the same thing. Some people don't want to look at relationships as simplistic.

Geez...In game? I thought we were talking about the real world.

/sigh
I'm not judging any relationship as inferior for being based online and if you need to it won't help anything. I know a few couples of friends happily married that met online so I know it's not my place to detract from.

Online dating is diff from meeting someone in a video game. There needs to be a distinction there.

That's not really a big difference is it? Only real difference I can see is one is intentionally looking for someone else, the other isn't.
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By zahrah 2011-03-22 01:39:20
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Unicorn.Marrs said:
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I'm not bashing you Quetz, I'm just going to point out if a girl is saying "you don't love me" there's a decent chance you're either not giving her enough attention, or there's something else going on. Of course, she could just be completely insane, but I'd think even if that were the case *something* set her off. You don't just go out and accuse someone of not loving you with nothing to go off of.
Well, I was level 75 on RDM as my first job, and she was a level 40-ish SAM, so we couldn't exactly do all the same things I did. I was doing Sky and Dynamis as well as leveling up with a specific group of friends, but I would have respected her more if she understood rather than complained...and then I would gladly spend my time with her. Yes, I may not have given her enough attention, but I gave all I could give. I can't say I didn't try. Then there was a point where I didn't talk to her for almost a month because I thought she decided to call it quits with me.

It was really difficult, because she had the kind of low self-esteem that felt almost crazy, and it made me feel powerless because I often felt like there was nothing I could do. I didn't know what would cheer her up. At the same time, it was the first time someone was actually interested in me...so I didn't have many relationship skills then. It could have been tons of factors, really.
meeting and holding her would be the main way to break that insecurity yeah. Just a moment for a good hug, it means the world to most and I don't mean it had to turn sexual. But in game yeah, a lot harder to overcome > <
Man, that would've meant worlds of relief for the both of us. Oh and she lives(or lived) in California and I live in Michigan...imagine that one.

Just thinking back on it makes me so pessimistic about females that I'm practically convicing myself that I'll never have a chance in real life. :\
yeah that's part of why I didn't want to enable dwelling on it. you got this.

As for distance, when my ex fiance and I weren't living together we were stuck in Canada and the UK, 3000+ miles for months. So I can imagine lol > <


zahrah said:
Unicorn.Marrs said:
i'll *especially* get flamed for posting in this thread.

but as far as advice i can give about going up to someone and talking to them be them a girl (maybe it applies to guys?), (because face it, this is where people generally always have the problem, the approach aka bravery, i mean if all your past gf's are friends that you've talked to before and you've only ever gotten with them by expressing how you feel online, face it, thats kinda sad and dependant on your amount of friends, which is limited/finite), practice vie not flirting. just talk. get good at that, and move up from there. even if that means starting at something thats as small as a smile, or a passing by "hi" to someone thats simply just making eye contact.

Don't try. I essentially said the same thing. Some people don't want to look at relationships as simplistic.

Geez...In game? I thought we were talking about the real world.

/sigh
I'm not judging any relationship as inferior for being based online and if you need to it won't help anything. I know a few couples of friends happily married that met online so I know it's not my place to detract from.

Online dating is diff from meeting someone in a video game. There needs to be a distinction there.

^^^ Agreed!!! ^^^ I'm not trying to be offensive in any way, but I just can't see/do it.
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-03-22 01:39:52
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Unicorn.Marrs said:
Online dating is diff from meeting someone in a video game. There needs to be a distinction there.
Yes, but it's still via the internet. But who honestly cares? Is it lower of me to meet someone in a video game as opposed to online dating, or something? I get the stereotypes behind video game dating, but I don't see how it's all that different when you're actually serious about someone.
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By Artemicion 2011-03-22 01:40:37
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so this one time, there was this chick in highschool that was obsessed with me...(I'm a dude) and I made it plain and clear to her that I wasn't interested. She kept trying to pursue to no avail, and I guess she held a grudge. Every girl I ever tried to get with in highschool mysteriously started hanging out with this girl that was obsessed with me.She became the biggest cockblock I've ever seen.. She would talk ***on me to any girl that I showed the slightest interest towards and make them think I wasn't worth it. After ruining something that could have been great, she would then turn around and try to get with me... This pretty much ruined any relationships I could have had in highschool and she still does ***like this to this day.

So I have no idea what to do about it ... Ive tried being mean to her (I've been quite the douchebag irl), if I could describe hatred in the best way I could, it would be my feelings towards her lol

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Leave a comment on her facebook saying something along the lines of:
"No matter how much a *** you become, I still won't go out with you." xD
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By Artemicion 2011-03-22 01:43:33
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Artemicion said:
I find it unsettling and awkward that I've lost most, if not all interest in relationships or the fruit it bears; regardless of gender.
How much time have you given this feeling?

It's been my disposition for over three years now.
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By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-03-22 01:47:45
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Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
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Online dating is diff from meeting someone in a video game. There needs to be a distinction there.
Yes, but it's still via the internet. But who honestly cares? Is it lower of me to meet someone in a video game as opposed to online dating, or something? I get the stereotypes behind dating after meeting up in a video game, but I don't see how it's all that different.

I'd say yes. Because chances are (especially in a video game like this one) a guy will pretend to be a girl to get stuff. On an online dating site why would a guy pretend to be a girl? Hes going to meet her and she'll be a he, case closed, wasted time for both of them, as oppose to someone wasting their own time (a negative) they actually have motive to lie to you (get virtual stuff).
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By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-03-22 01:48:19
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zahrah said:
Unicorn.Marrs said:
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Leviathan.Niniann said:
I'm not bashing you Quetz, I'm just going to point out if a girl is saying "you don't love me" there's a decent chance you're either not giving her enough attention, or there's something else going on. Of course, she could just be completely insane, but I'd think even if that were the case *something* set her off. You don't just go out and accuse someone of not loving you with nothing to go off of.
Well, I was level 75 on RDM as my first job, and she was a level 40-ish SAM, so we couldn't exactly do all the same things I did. I was doing Sky and Dynamis as well as leveling up with a specific group of friends, but I would have respected her more if she understood rather than complained...and then I would gladly spend my time with her. Yes, I may not have given her enough attention, but I gave all I could give. I can't say I didn't try. Then there was a point where I didn't talk to her for almost a month because I thought she decided to call it quits with me.

It was really difficult, because she had the kind of low self-esteem that felt almost crazy, and it made me feel powerless because I often felt like there was nothing I could do. I didn't know what would cheer her up. At the same time, it was the first time someone was actually interested in me...so I didn't have many relationship skills then. It could have been tons of factors, really.
meeting and holding her would be the main way to break that insecurity yeah. Just a moment for a good hug, it means the world to most and I don't mean it had to turn sexual. But in game yeah, a lot harder to overcome > <
Man, that would've meant worlds of relief for the both of us. Oh and she lives(or lived) in California and I live in Michigan...imagine that one.

Just thinking back on it makes me so pessimistic about females that I'm practically convicing myself that I'll never have a chance in real life. :\
yeah that's part of why I didn't want to enable dwelling on it. you got this.

As for distance, when my ex fiance and I weren't living together we were stuck in Canada and the UK, 3000+ miles for months. So I can imagine lol > <


zahrah said:
Unicorn.Marrs said:
i'll *especially* get flamed for posting in this thread.

but as far as advice i can give about going up to someone and talking to them be them a girl (maybe it applies to guys?), (because face it, this is where people generally always have the problem, the approach aka bravery, i mean if all your past gf's are friends that you've talked to before and you've only ever gotten with them by expressing how you feel online, face it, thats kinda sad and dependant on your amount of friends, which is limited/finite), practice vie not flirting. just talk. get good at that, and move up from there. even if that means starting at something thats as small as a smile, or a passing by "hi" to someone thats simply just making eye contact.

Don't try. I essentially said the same thing. Some people don't want to look at relationships as simplistic.

Geez...In game? I thought we were talking about the real world.

/sigh
I'm not judging any relationship as inferior for being based online and if you need to it won't help anything. I know a few couples of friends happily married that met online so I know it's not my place to detract from.

Online dating is diff from meeting someone in a video game. There needs to be a distinction there.

^^^ Agreed!!! ^^^ I'm not trying to be offensive in any way, but I just can't see/do it.

Yea either am I. I'm not being insulting, I'm giving logical points for my arguments.
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-03-22 01:51:56
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Yeah that's part of why I didn't want to enable dwelling on it. you got this.
This took place about 3 years ago, but there was another situation I would rather not explain out of respect of the persons involved that got me seriously questioning my ability to hold a relationship. :x
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By Shiva.Kollosis 2011-03-22 01:51:57
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Did you ever try talking to her and treating her like an equal? thinking in advance of the best way to say anything to consider her feelings and be gentle but sincere? Might take a lot of effort but I think it'd be worth trying if you're still stuck.

And yeah there's a chance nothing you do will change her sadly > < hope that's not the case

Anytime I act nice in anyway towards her she takes it as I'm being nice because I like her. She just doesn't get it.
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By Artemicion 2011-03-22 01:52:50
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Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Artemicion said:
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
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I find it unsettling and awkward that I've lost most, if not all interest in relationships or the fruit it bears; regardless of gender.
How much time have you given this feeling?

It's been my disposition for over three years now.
I'd smack anyone that tried to tell you you were wasting your life feeling like that. One should be able to live freely and just because your desires aren't the normal ones doesn't mean you're unhealthy.

But does any part of you desire children or grandchildren? or going to sports games and band concerts to see your children?

And if not, did you ever desire that kindof thing art?

Generally no. But I have thought about it randomly in the past, but it generally isn't something that sticks to my thought process or inner desires enough to be considered a goal or objective.

Perhaps I'm simply used to or have accepted being a loner lol.
 
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By Ifrit.Bloodbathboy 2011-03-22 01:56:20
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Shiva.Kollosis said:
so this one time, there was this chick in highschool that was obsessed with me...(I'm a dude) and I made it plain and clear to her that I wasn't interested. She kept trying to pursue to no avail, and I guess she held a grudge. Every girl I ever tried to get with in highschool mysteriously started hanging out with this girl that was obsessed with me.She became the biggest cockblock I've ever seen.. She would talk ***on me to any girl that I showed the slightest interest towards and make them think I wasn't worth it. After ruining something that could have been great, she would then turn around and try to get with me... This pretty much ruined any relationships I could have had in highschool and she still does ***like this to this day.

So I have no idea what to do about it ... Ive tried being mean to her (I've been quite the douchebag irl), if I could describe hatred in the best way I could, it would be my feelings towards her lol Move, lol. Just try to find different circles of people to hang with.
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-03-22 01:56:25
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I'd say yes. Because chances are (especially in a video game like this one) a guy will pretend to be a girl to get stuff. On an online dating site why would a guy pretend to be a girl? Hes going to meet her and she'll be a he, case closed, wasted time for both of them, as oppose to someone wasting their own time (a negative) they actually have motive to lie to you (get virtual stuff).
Uh, that's what I meant by stereotypes...background checks (pics, webcam, whatever the *** you can do) first, relationship time later. Tell me something I don't know.

Also, You can't say there aren't cases where guys would pretend to be girls on online dating sites just to get attention either. And those guys are *** crazy.
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just about everything i was going to say in response to the original post has been said one way or another spread among other posts...i usually dont have a problem talking to girls but im naturally laid back and nice most of the time so when a girl that is taken or single(doesnt matter) thinks im coming on to her even though in my mind im just being myself it kind of upsets me
edit: sometimes it does piss me off too
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By Ifrit.Bloodbathboy 2011-03-22 02:01:13
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Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
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I'd say yes. Because chances are (especially in a video game like this one) a guy will pretend to be a girl to get stuff. On an online dating site why would a guy pretend to be a girl? Hes going to meet her and she'll be a he, case closed, wasted time for both of them, as oppose to someone wasting their own time (a negative) they actually have motive to lie to you (get virtual stuff).
Uh, that's what I meant by stereotypes...background checks (pics, webcam, whatever the *** you can do) first, relationship time later. Tell me something I don't know.

Also, You can't say there aren't cases where guys would pretend to be girls on online dating sites just to get attention either. And those guys are *** crazy.
That is just nasty!!
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By Unicorn.Marrs 2011-03-22 02:01:45
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Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
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I'd say yes. Because chances are (especially in a video game like this one) a guy will pretend to be a girl to get stuff. On an online dating site why would a guy pretend to be a girl? Hes going to meet her and she'll be a he, case closed, wasted time for both of them, as oppose to someone wasting their own time (a negative) they actually have motive to lie to you (get virtual stuff).
Uh, that's what I meant by stereotypes...background checks (pics, webcam, whatever the *** you can do) first, relationship time later. Tell me something I don't know.

Also, You can't say there aren't cases where guys would pretend to be girls on online dating sites just to get attention either. And those guys are *** crazy.

Why would a guy want attention....and as a girl...that doesn't even....I've heard of girls not using pics that are theirs but never a full on sex difference. Chances are a bazillion times less but I suppose its technically "possible". Pics or whatever are a terrible point again for a video game, a person in a video game has a motive again to find fake pics, just as much as they would to give their char a diff sex then their own, so any type of identity confirmation after you've already found them vie the game is kind of pointless.
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Unicorn.Marrs said:
zahrah said:
Unicorn.Marrs said:
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Bismarck.Josiahfk said:
Leviathan.Quetzacoatl said:
Leviathan.Niniann said:
I'm not bashing you Quetz, I'm just going to point out if a girl is saying "you don't love me" there's a decent chance you're either not giving her enough attention, or there's something else going on. Of course, she could just be completely insane, but I'd think even if that were the case *something* set her off. You don't just go out and accuse someone of not loving you with nothing to go off of.
Well, I was level 75 on RDM as my first job, and she was a level 40-ish SAM, so we couldn't exactly do all the same things I did. I was doing Sky and Dynamis as well as leveling up with a specific group of friends, but I would have respected her more if she understood rather than complained...and then I would gladly spend my time with her. Yes, I may not have given her enough attention, but I gave all I could give. I can't say I didn't try. Then there was a point where I didn't talk to her for almost a month because I thought she decided to call it quits with me.

It was really difficult, because she had the kind of low self-esteem that felt almost crazy, and it made me feel powerless because I often felt like there was nothing I could do. I didn't know what would cheer her up. At the same time, it was the first time someone was actually interested in me...so I didn't have many relationship skills then. It could have been tons of factors, really.
meeting and holding her would be the main way to break that insecurity yeah. Just a moment for a good hug, it means the world to most and I don't mean it had to turn sexual. But in game yeah, a lot harder to overcome > <
Man, that would've meant worlds of relief for the both of us. Oh and she lives(or lived) in California and I live in Michigan...imagine that one.

Just thinking back on it makes me so pessimistic about females that I'm practically convicing myself that I'll never have a chance in real life. :\
yeah that's part of why I didn't want to enable dwelling on it. you got this.

As for distance, when my ex fiance and I weren't living together we were stuck in Canada and the UK, 3000+ miles for months. So I can imagine lol > <


zahrah said:
Unicorn.Marrs said:
i'll *especially* get flamed for posting in this thread.

but as far as advice i can give about going up to someone and talking to them be them a girl (maybe it applies to guys?), (because face it, this is where people generally always have the problem, the approach aka bravery, i mean if all your past gf's are friends that you've talked to before and you've only ever gotten with them by expressing how you feel online, face it, thats kinda sad and dependant on your amount of friends, which is limited/finite), practice vie not flirting. just talk. get good at that, and move up from there. even if that means starting at something thats as small as a smile, or a passing by "hi" to someone thats simply just making eye contact.

Don't try. I essentially said the same thing. Some people don't want to look at relationships as simplistic.

Geez...In game? I thought we were talking about the real world.

/sigh
I'm not judging any relationship as inferior for being based online and if you need to it won't help anything. I know a few couples of friends happily married that met online so I know it's not my place to detract from.

Online dating is diff from meeting someone in a video game. There needs to be a distinction there.

^^^ Agreed!!! ^^^ I'm not trying to be offensive in any way, but I just can't see/do it.

Yea either am I. I'm not being insulting, I'm giving logical points for my arguments.

I know you are not. I'm just trying to redeem myself a little because my first post does some off as condescending and superior.

Anyway, maybe it's just me, but I don't understand. Relationships are not suppose to be about stress. Finding one, holding on to one, or being in one. If so, you need to reevaluate.
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By Bismarck.Xdudemanx 2011-03-22 02:03:35
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i knew a few people in game who acted like girls. to go as far as jumping from guy to guy getting stuff for free was a bit obnoxious imo but hey its just a fantasy world in game anyways
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By Ifrit.Bloodbathboy 2011-03-22 02:16:47
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Well there is going to always be some stress in a relationship. Two different people who are trying to be together. I guess if there is more joy, keep her. If not, reevaluate the relationship. Fix it or move on. Things sure can be tough sometimes.
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By Leviathan.Quetzacoatl 2011-03-22 02:16:52
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Unicorn.Marrs said:
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I'd say yes. Because chances are (especially in a video game like this one) a guy will pretend to be a girl to get stuff. On an online dating site why would a guy pretend to be a girl? Hes going to meet her and she'll be a he, case closed, wasted time for both of them, as oppose to someone wasting their own time (a negative) they actually have motive to lie to you (get virtual stuff).
Uh, that's what I meant by stereotypes...background checks (pics, webcam, whatever the *** you can do) first, relationship time later. Tell me something I don't know.

Also, You can't say there aren't cases where guys would pretend to be girls on online dating sites just to get attention either. And those guys are *** crazy.

Why would a guy want attention....and as a girl...that doesn't even....I've heard of girls not using pics that are theirs but never a full on sex difference. Chances are a bazillion times less but I suppose its technically "possible". Pics or whatever are a terrible point again for a video game, a person in a video game has a motive again to find fake pics, just as much as they would to give their char a diff sex then their own, so any type of identity confirmation after you've already found them vie the game is kind of pointless.
I'm speaking in what kinds of vulnerabilities there are to exploit for a random psycho killer to lure them out. And it can actually be more likely than you think, with a little effort.

Plus, I think at this point, the whole guy-playing-girl-character stereotype has honestly tired itself to the point where people are starting to not wanting to pretend to be a female because of the backlash it could give them.
 
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YEEEEAAAAY!!!!! Now the fun starts! Hello, Spicy!
 
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