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FFXI- worlds first mass multileech online RPG
Valefor.Jaypea
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By Valefor.Jaypea 2011-03-15 18:47:30
Ok I gotta get this out because all I ever see is wah wah wah the game is too easy now.
Is FFXI broke compared to the way it used to be? Yes, is that such a bad thing? Really?
As someone who just came back to the game after quitting for 3 years...IT'S FUN lol why are everyone QQing that it's too easy now?
Lots of us have done the grind, were paying to play this game which let's face it...we're coming to the end of the game. SE are not going to keep the servers up forever, I see the current state of the game as a gift to the long time players...
Can a HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE noob get the same gear as me now with a bit more effort? Yes they can...does that really matter? anyone who has played long enough to claim this game is now "too easy" has done their time. They have done the DA camps every day, day after day fighting for HNM and for items against linkshells full of people!
Let's face it...there is no LS where everyone likes everyone, most ls break down into the few groups which did permas for most stuff back in the day...you can now form your whole linkshell around your friends and the people you enjoy playing with, and that you hate? you hate the fact that you don't have to spend hours dealing with HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE noobs in exp partys just to level a job you always wanted because you found it fun?
I agree I miss the big fights etc but you can have just as much fun low manning stuff now.
The only problem with the game in it's current state is the newbies that think they are profosho because they have leeched 90 and spent all week while they were off school /shouting for AF3 runs which means their gear may be fairly decent but they have no clue how to play the job or game...that being said you are no longer forced to take what ever left over party you can find because you found a job that isn't popular fun to play.
The game has been scaled down because SE don't want people quitting because they are fed up for the 3 hour camps at kings or fighting to claim something against botters etc lol. I understand how you feel I was like WTF when I first came back but you have to take yourself out of the 2006 FFXI end game mind set, get a small group of friends and stick with them like in the old days and the game is a lot more fun now.
IMO the game has changed for the better, I would like to see some new stuff added in the 99 cap that could require 18 men to complete but right now in the games last few years SE have hit the nail on the head.
THE GAME IS FUN FOR A CHANGE!
Continue with your QQ. That is all.
Bismarck.Helel
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By Bismarck.Helel 2011-03-15 18:52:34
Who cares? Leveling was never an accomplishment anyway. Getting the endgame gear was always the "hardest" most respectable accomplishment. I'll admit the difficulty has waned a lot, but so has the difficulty of leveling. I personally don't give a ***if someone has 15 jobs @ level 90. They probably suck at all of them, but that's not my problem. And just to contribute to the WoW hate, WoW has the worst grind out of any MMO I've ever played. I don't mean in terms of difficulty, but just pure absolute boredom. I quit after 3 days, something I've never done with any other MMO. I don't know how so many people can stand it.
I miss the old days of leveling in FFXI, but I never felt accomplished because I successfully leveled my job to 75... If you don't like leveling in abyssea THEN DON'T DO IT. Nobody is forcing you to level more than one job. If your LS wants you to have more than one job then leave it, grab a whm and dd, and go kill ***on your own time.
Fenrir.Eneas
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By Fenrir.Eneas 2011-03-15 18:54:21
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By Shiva.Cerderic 2011-03-15 19:01:56
Does "Under New Management" mean anything to anyone? What did you expect. I hope not more HNMs and Salvage content. Some things are better, some things are worse. It isn't any worse than some of the crap SE has thrown at us before. And if you're so against it. Don't do it. I refused to go to ToAU areas for over a year after the expansion came out because I hated everything about it. I did just fine. You want to ignore all the glory, gear, exp and gil to be found in abyssea, go for it. It's an MMO, do what you want. As many have found, you can nearly solo anything on the game. If that's your style, I recommend you do it. There's really no sense in QQing about something that doesn't hurt you.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-03-15 19:16:48
Ifrit.Herc said: Bahamut.Raenryong said: My NIN and BLU were Abyssea burned and are likely better than 90%+ of non-Abyssea burned NIN and BLUs.
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That my friend...is a very bold statement.
It's one I feel I can safely make. Obviously I'm not the best BLU or NIN in the world but I believe both are firmly above average and not the useless gimp disgraces to their respective jobs that the (often substandard) anti-Abyssea levelling group claims they inevitably will be.
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Bismarck.Henihhi
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By Bismarck.Henihhi 2011-03-15 19:17:11
Lol and thankfully when i came back to game a lot of old lsmates/friends were there so i dont have to put up with a lot of the abyssea lvled retards unless i /shout for something.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-15 19:23:38
Ifrit.Herc said: Bahamut.Raenryong said: My NIN and BLU were Abyssea burned and are likely better than 90%+ of non-Abyssea burned NIN and BLUs.
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That my friend...is a very bold statement. What's bold about it? Anybody who caps their skills, researches their job, and makes an effort to gear properly is almost guaranteed to be better at a said job than at least 80% of the playerbase, and Raen is very knowledgeable concerning game mechanics. I could see the number being higher tbh, especially for BLU.
By Wafflechan 2011-03-15 19:27:12
Fenrir.Dinkydoo said: Everybody loved to bash wow for how "easy" it was and it was the ffxi -1, but correct me if i'm wrong but does wow have you sit in a zone from lvl 30 to 70 being completely useless? The amount of people that oppose making abyssea 70+ only makes me hate what this game has become. The subject has come up millions of times and everytime the argument comes down to " the old ways suck! Gtfo." yeah, the old mega-grind way of getting to 75 sucked, but they already adressed how slow exp was out of abyssea. Basically, ask yourself "just because the old way sucked, does that make the new way okay?" I'm not really looking for anything to come out of this post other than people to reconsider what an mmo is and why they play. I dont ever see ffxi reversing this huge lazy mess, partialy because so many people are so Pro-leeching. Diablo 2 does >_>; leech from 30->90 in Chaos/Baal, be useless in between. Ragnarok Online (one of the first mmos) for the longest while had Thors Volcano dungeon where you could leech from 1-99 in a week. FFXI isnt the first game to do this, and it wont be the last. Quit your bitchin' and let people play how they want.
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By Fenrir.Dinkydoo 2011-03-15 19:27:50
I figured this would be the reaction, even after stating i wasn't trying to start another leech vs. earn your levels war. i just find it kind off boring on the developers part. when leveling makes up about 70% of an mmo, what are you left with when they take leveling and turn it into a joke? wasw abyssea the answer to getting those upper levels that used to take a day for 1, yes. was it appropriate for leveling before 70~ish with the context of any mmo you have ever played? not exactly. the recent update was way more appropriate, and has parties reaching pretty close to what they would be getting in abyssea.
i feel like everybody reads these posts and think i'm saying "omg this is terrible! you arent supposed to be leveling up this fast!" i' just trying to point out that there could have been much better ways to go about making exp less a grind. and SE realized that with the last update, but when you get the same exp in abyssea with less work, why actually do your job in the party.
Alexander.Odaka
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By Alexander.Odaka 2011-03-15 19:28:27
Wafflechan said: Fenrir.Dinkydoo said: Everybody loved to bash wow for how "easy" it was and it was the ffxi -1, but correct me if i'm wrong but does wow have you sit in a zone from lvl 30 to 70 being completely useless? The amount of people that oppose making abyssea 70+ only makes me hate what this game has become. The subject has come up millions of times and everytime the argument comes down to " the old ways suck! Gtfo." yeah, the old mega-grind way of getting to 75 sucked, but they already adressed how slow exp was out of abyssea. Basically, ask yourself "just because the old way sucked, does that make the new way okay?" I'm not really looking for anything to come out of this post other than people to reconsider what an mmo is and why they play. I dont ever see ffxi reversing this huge lazy mess, partialy because so many people are so Pro-leeching. Diablo 2 does >_>; leech from 30->90 in Chaos/Baal, be useless in between. Ragnarok Online (one of the first mmos) for the longest while had Thors Volcano dungeon where you could leech from 1-99 in a week. FFXI isnt the first game to do this, and it wont be the last. Quit your bitchin' and let people play how they want.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-15 19:34:59
Fenrir.Dinkydoo said: when leveling makes up about 70% of an mmo, For some, perhaps... but not for all.
Quote: the recent update was way more appropriate, and has parties reaching pretty close to what they would be getting in abyssea. You should try a good Abyssea party sometime o_O
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By Asura.Matzilla 2011-03-15 19:36:26
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Fenrir.Dinkydoo said: when leveling makes up about 70% of an mmo, For some, perhaps... but not for all.
Quote: the recent update was way more appropriate, and has parties reaching pretty close to what they would be getting in abyssea. You should try a good Abyssea party some time o_O
like those exist longer than the day after a level cap increase
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-15 19:39:00
Asura.Matzilla said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Fenrir.Dinkydoo said: when leveling makes up about 70% of an mmo, For some, perhaps... but not for all.
Quote: the recent update was way more appropriate, and has parties reaching pretty close to what they would be getting in abyssea. You should try a good Abyssea party some time o_O
like those exist longer than the day after a level cap increase Takes no more than two people to make a good Abyssea party, everyone else can leech. Sounds like Empy KI farming to me.
***, I can clear a pretty large pull solo...
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By Sylph.Sukasaroth 2011-03-15 19:39:36
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By Asura.Matzilla 2011-03-15 19:40:58
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Asura.Matzilla said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Fenrir.Dinkydoo said: when leveling makes up about 70% of an mmo, For some, perhaps... but not for all.
Quote: the recent update was way more appropriate, and has parties reaching pretty close to what they would be getting in abyssea. You should try a good Abyssea party some time o_O
like those exist longer than the day after a level cap increase Takes no more than two people to make a good Abyssea party, everyone else can leech. ***, I can clear a pretty large pull solo...
i am still amazed people still have jobs to leech at this point, though most level 80-90s in parties are leeching hardcore with the amount of *** they suck
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-15 19:44:40
Meh, I only level jobs if I plan to use them... Not worth the hassle of lolpickups and I'd rather help friends farm than sit and leech. Might 2box a Maat's Cap if they don't replace it for BLU and NIN next update though.
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By Valefor.Sketchkat 2011-03-15 20:01:44
I love that video!
Oh, and FFXI stopped being fun a long, long time ago...in my opinion.
Leviathan.Behemothx
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By Leviathan.Behemothx 2011-03-15 20:06:33
Fenrir.Dinkydoo said: Everybody loved to bash wow for how "easy" it was and it was the ffxi -1, but correct me if i'm wrong but does wow have you sit in a zone from lvl 30 to 70 being completely useless? The amount of people that oppose making abyssea 70+ only makes me hate what this game has become. The subject has come up millions of times and everytime the argument comes down to " the old ways suck! Gtfo."
yeah, the old mega-grind way of getting to 75 sucked, but they already adressed how slow exp was out of abyssea. Basically, ask yourself "just because the old way sucked, does that make the new way okay?"
I'm not really looking for anything to come out of this post other than people to reconsider what an mmo is and why they play. I dont ever see ffxi reversing this huge lazy mess, partialy because so many people are so Pro-leeching.
Lmao! another gil challenged whiner ;D
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Leviathan.Behemothx
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By Leviathan.Behemothx 2011-03-15 20:08:20
Caitsith.Himsa said: When you've been playing since 2004 and want to play all jobs but don't have the time/ambition to level them, then yeah it's much better. Additionally, anyone who's not a retard knows how to play each job effectively. So you go back to your crab and bird camps. I'll cap my xp, skill up in abyssea and still be awesome
Could not have said it better!
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-15 20:13:20
Leviathan.Behemothx said: Lmao! another gil challenged whiner ;D That's some impressive WHM gear O.O
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Phoenix.Amael
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By Phoenix.Amael 2011-03-15 20:14:33
Ragnarok.Zanno said:
I've been on this forum for years (I started pics that makes you lol again, I'm sure you've heard of it?).
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-03-15 20:16:06
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Leviathan.Behemothx said: Lmao! another gil challenged whiner ;D That's some impressive WHM gear O.O
If you didn't lose all skill by leeching in Abyssea you'd already have worked out how to do a cross-job evasion set on WHM.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-15 20:17:00
Bahamut.Raenryong said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Leviathan.Behemothx said: Lmao! another gil challenged whiner ;D That's some impressive WHM gear O.O
If you didn't lose all skill by leeching in Abyssea you'd already have worked out how to do a cross-job evasion set on WHM.
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Leviathan.Behemothx
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By Leviathan.Behemothx 2011-03-15 20:53:48
Bahamut.Raenryong said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Leviathan.Behemothx said: Lmao! another gil challenged whiner ;D That's some impressive WHM gear O.O
If you didn't lose all skill by leeching in Abyssea you'd already have worked out how to do a cross-job evasion set on WHM.
Alright I'll bite. If you knew anything about this site, you would know that the guildwork client mismatches information about job > equipment profiles.
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-03-15 20:55:13
Leviathan.Behemothx said: Bahamut.Raenryong said: Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Leviathan.Behemothx said: Lmao! another gil challenged whiner ;D That's some impressive WHM gear O.O
If you didn't lose all skill by leeching in Abyssea you'd already have worked out how to do a cross-job evasion set on WHM.
Alright I'll bite. If you knew anything about this site, you would know that the guildwork client mismatches information about job > equipment profiles.
I'm pretty sure you need to detect sarcasm better.
Leviathan.Behemothx
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By Leviathan.Behemothx 2011-03-15 20:56:06
Fenrir.Nightfyre said: Leviathan.Behemothx said: Lmao! another gil challenged whiner ;D That's some impressive WHM gear O.O
And again, Re: Guildwork client... That was my DNC gear.
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Leviathan.Behemothx
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By Leviathan.Behemothx 2011-03-15 20:56:39
Quote: I'm pretty sure you need to detect sarcasm better.
Probably... meh, was reading dumbass posts all evening. Too much sarcasm in this world. :P
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Quetzalcoatl.Mrbeansman
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By Quetzalcoatl.Mrbeansman 2011-03-16 03:42:40
Is not doing something you don't like really that hard?
Everybody loved to bash wow for how "easy" it was and it was the ffxi -1, but correct me if i'm wrong but does wow have you sit in a zone from lvl 30 to 70 being completely useless? The amount of people that oppose making abyssea 70+ only makes me hate what this game has become. The subject has come up millions of times and everytime the argument comes down to " the old ways suck! Gtfo."
yeah, the old mega-grind way of getting to 75 sucked, but they already adressed how slow exp was out of abyssea. Basically, ask yourself "just because the old way sucked, does that make the new way okay?"
I'm not really looking for anything to come out of this post other than people to reconsider what an mmo is and why they play. I dont ever see ffxi reversing this huge lazy mess, partialy because so many people are so Pro-leeching.
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