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FFXI- worlds first mass multileech online RPG
Server: Bahamut
Game: FFXI
Posts: 4554
By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-03-15 17:53:37
My NIN and BLU were Abyssea burned and are likely better than 90%+ of non-Abyssea burned NIN and BLUs.
New players? I've had a few of those around recently. They levelled to 30 and such the normal way, some as high as 40~50 and then decided that fast levels wouldn't be such a bad thing.
The game is what you make it. Different to what we had? Yes. But different != worse.
(personally I wish exping outside Abyssea was fun and offered a lot of variety - neither the current nor the old system offers this, so the quickest way is the one I prefer).
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Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23
By Fenrir.Dinkydoo 2011-03-15 17:54:06
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: By the way guys this looks like an amazing abyssea COR if I ever saw one
Lol not too hurt by that seeing as tping cor isnt really something to be taken too seriously now that the job is dead. But lets save that for another thread. What can i say, i get bored and mess around with item sets >_>
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-03-15 17:54:13
Fenrir.Dinkydoo said: "just because the old way sucked, does that make the new way okay?" It makes the new way better than the old one, which is all that matters given the lack of additional options (short of playing a different game). If SE had taken the time to design a less painful early/midgame experience I might lament Abyssea's impact on that portion of the game, but as it is I welcome the fact that it lets me get jobs ready for endgame (read: the vast majority of FFXI's content and the part I actually play for) without grinding for months.
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Leviathan.Hellbunny
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
Posts: 16
By Leviathan.Hellbunny 2011-03-15 17:56:06
mad? lol why would i be mad. just find it silly that your in this forum still after you quit a game that you clearly dont play. i just wonder why is it you stay.. im sure wow got a forum you can go chat it up on.. thing is i dont care who you are or what forum you made. assuming you understand the forum is for ffxi.
kbye~
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Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-03-15 17:57:47
Leviathan.Hellbunny said: mad? lol why would i be mad. just find it silly that your in this forum still after you quit a game that you clearly dont play. i just wonder why is it you stay.. im sure wow got a forum you can go chat it up on.. thing is i dont care who you are or what forum you made. assuming you understand the forum is for ffxi.
kbye~
You're a retard.
One can still enjoy discussing things with other forum posters or enjoy reading threads that aren't about XI. Not everyone quits because they want to either, some quit because they're forced to because of work/life in general. Should they also quit posting?
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 23
By Fenrir.Dinkydoo 2011-03-15 17:59:45
Lol spicy, you really confused me. You didnt agree with the leeching bandwagon but you pick out my only goofy experimental itemset and try to discredit me?
Ragnarok.Zanno
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
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By Ragnarok.Zanno 2011-03-15 18:00:23
Leviathan.Hellbunny said: mad? lol why would i be mad. just find it silly that your in this forum still after you quit a game that you clearly dont play. i just wonder why is it you stay.. im sure wow got a forum you can go chat it up on.. thing is i dont care who you are or what forum you made. assuming you understand the forum is for ffxi.
kbye~
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Leviathan.Edenie
Server: Leviathan
Game: FFXI
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By Leviathan.Edenie 2011-03-15 18:01:41
Bismarck.Dracondria said: Leviathan.Hellbunny said: mad? lol why would i be mad. just find it silly that your in this forum still after you quit a game that you clearly dont play. i just wonder why is it you stay.. im sure wow got a forum you can go chat it up on.. thing is i dont care who you are or what forum you made. assuming you understand the forum is for ffxi.
kbye~
You're a retard.
One can still enjoy discussing things with other forum posters or enjoy reading threads that aren't about XI. Not everyone quits because they want to either, some quit because they're forced to because of work/life in general. Should they also quit posting?
lol you clearly cant read.... he said he quit b/c wow's more fun so befor you start calling names why dont slow down abit.
Ragnarok.Tuvae
Server: Ragnarok
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By Ragnarok.Tuvae 2011-03-15 18:04:01
In all honesty i think people just level jobs to get thier game ranking up...
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Fenrir.Dink
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 3
By Fenrir.Dink 2011-03-15 18:04:25
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Fenrir.Dinkydoo said: Lol spicy, you really confused me. You didnt agree with the leeching bandwagon but you pick out my only goofy experimental itemset and try to discredit me?
Lol experimental.
What the *** is this Bill Nye the Science Taru?
Not exactly. More like everything i did was with about 5 people in my ls, making thf or rdm > than cor for th or proccing. That and the whole atma bs but w/e they are trying to fix that.
By richwood 2011-03-15 18:06:07
Pandemonium.Spicyryan said: Leviathan.Edenie said: Bismarck.Dracondria said: Leviathan.Hellbunny said: mad? lol why would i be mad. just find it silly that your in this forum still after you quit a game that you clearly dont play. i just wonder why is it you stay.. im sure wow got a forum you can go chat it up on.. thing is i dont care who you are or what forum you made. assuming you understand the forum is for ffxi.
kbye~
You're a retard.
One can still enjoy discussing things with other forum posters or enjoy reading threads that aren't about XI. Not everyone quits because they want to either, some quit because they're forced to because of work/life in general. Should they also quit posting?
lol you clearly cant read.... he said he quit b/c wow's more fun so befor you start calling names why dont slow down abit.
WoW is more fun if you were half aborted.
Naw I have re-upped wow and lotro they both as it stands right now offer more challenge then what the current state of ffxi offers.
To be honest, I just like the PvP in wow, it is fun. leveling can mainly done solo yes, but many people party together for quest and what, as well to protect from opposing faction attacks while questing and leveling.
By Dmaul 2011-03-15 18:09:50
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
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By Fenrir.Dinkydoo 2011-03-15 18:13:15
Just realized, i got eponas but never gave a crap about that set to update it lol. I have been on corsair 2 times in the past 3 months, for ballista and for a vrtra zerg. None of which involved my loltp set. And the tp set was idealy for slugshot spam, not evis. But it only makes sense to put the dagger in main slot.
Fenrir.Eneas
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 630
By Fenrir.Eneas 2011-03-15 18:20:10
i burned few jobs and i tell you what they are: SAM RDM DRK and NIN and now trying on BLU.
I dont really plan on using a job if it is underskilled and you should know that i spend most of the time skilling up and breaking latents.
What i have a problem with is gettin in a lowman seal group with a pink ninja that cant hit a mob and the mages with spells not landing.
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
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By Bismarck.Dracondria 2011-03-15 18:23:09
Leviathan.Edenie said: Bismarck.Dracondria said: Leviathan.Hellbunny said: mad? lol why would i be mad. just find it silly that your in this forum still after you quit a game that you clearly dont play. i just wonder why is it you stay.. im sure wow got a forum you can go chat it up on.. thing is i dont care who you are or what forum you made. assuming you understand the forum is for ffxi.
kbye~
You're a retard.
One can still enjoy discussing things with other forum posters or enjoy reading threads that aren't about XI. Not everyone quits because they want to either, some quit because they're forced to because of work/life in general. Should they also quit posting?
lol you clearly cant read.... he said he quit b/c wow's more fun so befor you start calling names why dont slow down abit.
I never mentioned Zanno in my post, I was speaking about people in general.
By richwood 2011-03-15 18:26:18
Fenrir.Eneas said: i burned few jobs and i tell you what they are: SAM RDM DRK and NIN and now trying on BLU.
I dont really plan on using a job if it is underskilled and you should know that i spend most of the time skilling up and breaking latents.
What i have a problem with is gettin in a lowman seal group with a pink ninja that cant hit a mob and the mages with spells not landing.
Tier 1 Seals are really super easy for Nin/Dnc solo, even some Tier 2 upgrades Item can be solo'd.
It is very hard for players who are new to the game however, since with out leveling your jobs the old fashioned way or spending lots of time skilling up you will not have the capped skill needed to effectively solo.
You would not believe how much capped katana/parry/evasion/ninjutsu/etc would make things super easy that are otherwise not.
Ragnarok.Zanno
Server: Ragnarok
Game: FFXI
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By Ragnarok.Zanno 2011-03-15 18:27:14
Bismarck.Dracondria said: Leviathan.Edenie said: Bismarck.Dracondria said: Leviathan.Hellbunny said: mad? lol why would i be mad. just find it silly that your in this forum still after you quit a game that you clearly dont play. i just wonder why is it you stay.. im sure wow got a forum you can go chat it up on.. thing is i dont care who you are or what forum you made. assuming you understand the forum is for ffxi.
kbye~
You're a retard.
One can still enjoy discussing things with other forum posters or enjoy reading threads that aren't about XI. Not everyone quits because they want to either, some quit because they're forced to because of work/life in general. Should they also quit posting?
lol you clearly cant read.... he said he quit b/c wow's more fun so befor you start calling names why dont slow down abit.
I never mentioned Zanno in my post, I was speaking about people in general. Even I never said I quit FFXI because I like WoW more. I quit FFXI because it got boring as hell. 2 months after I had already quit FFXI I started up WoW (for the second time, first time I quit WoW because I was on an american server, which was about as fun as playing ffxi during JP hours only).
Server: Shiva
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-03-15 18:27:52
Leviathan.Hellbunny said: mad? lol why would i be mad. just find it silly that your in this forum still after you quit a game that you clearly dont play. i just wonder why is it you stay.. im sure wow got a forum you can go chat it up on.. thing is i dont care who you are or what forum you made. assuming you understand the forum is for ffxi.
kbye~
I find it silly that the mentally HELP I AM TRAPPED IN 2006 PLEASE SEND A TIME MACHINE are still allowed to post freely, but here we are again.
By richwood 2011-03-15 18:28:29
richwood said: Fenrir.Eneas said: i burned few jobs and i tell you what they are: SAM RDM DRK and NIN and now trying on BLU.
I dont really plan on using a job if it is underskilled and you should know that i spend most of the time skilling up and breaking latents.
What i have a problem with is gettin in a lowman seal group with a pink ninja that cant hit a mob and the mages with spells not landing.
Tier 1 Seals are really super easy for Nin/Dnc solo, even some Tier 2 upgrades Item can be solo'd.
It is very hard for players who are new to the game however, since with out leveling your jobs the old fashioned way or spending lots of time skilling up you will not have the capped skill needed to effectively solo.
You would not believe how much capped katana/parry/evasion/ninjutsu/etc would make things super easy that are otherwise not.
I kinda wish more old school players would take the time to help newer people in the game. I do here and there, helping with lv caps or NMs.
I remember when my old Ls had weekly events for doing rank mission/quest/cop/toa/wotg/ZM, etc.
Fenrir.Eneas
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 630
By Fenrir.Eneas 2011-03-15 18:31:29
richwood said: Fenrir.Eneas said: i burned few jobs and i tell you what they are: SAM RDM DRK and NIN and now trying on BLU.
I dont really plan on using a job if it is underskilled and you should know that i spend most of the time skilling up and breaking latents.
What i have a problem with is gettin in a lowman seal group with a pink ninja that cant hit a mob and the mages with spells not landing.
Tier 1 Seals are really super easy for Nin/Dnc solo, even some Tier 2 upgrades Item can be solo'd.
It is very hard for players who are new to the game however, since with out leveling your jobs the old fashioned way or spending lots of time skilling up you will not have the capped skill needed to effectively solo.
You would not believe how much capped katana/parry/evasion/ninjutsu/etc would make things super easy that are otherwise not.
I know that and this is why i am sticking to BLM/RDM/THF/WAR/BRD, NIN is capped but havent gotten around to use it enough yet (soloed/duoed few +1 NM only)
Bismarck.Henihhi
Server: Bismarck
Game: FFXI
Posts: 49
By Bismarck.Henihhi 2011-03-15 18:32:26
The exp rate needing fixing but SE went so far from one direction to another. <i did quit before abyssea and the lvl cap came out and returned a few days before 85 was released.> It would be nice if they implemented something like an nm fight to raise lvl caps instead of just requiring some crests and merits to progress. That would at least sort out some of the idiocy.
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By Asura.Daleterrence 2011-03-15 18:34:20
At the OP...
If you don't like how the game is, don't play. Seriously, nobody is stopping you quitting but yourself.
Fenrir.Eneas
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 630
By Fenrir.Eneas 2011-03-15 18:35:34
richwood said:
I kinda wish more old school players would take the time to help newer people in the game. I do here and there, helping with lv caps or NMs.
I remember when my old Ls had weekly events for doing rank mission/quest/cop/toa/wotg/ZM, etc.
i do give my bits on advice on gear/ws/wathever but other than that i cant be arse really, i spent 1 year in a social LS where every week there was a new player needing to do the same missions and same quests.
I do help friends or friends of friends every now and then tho.
Fenrir.Eneas
Server: Fenrir
Game: FFXI
Posts: 630
By Fenrir.Eneas 2011-03-15 18:36:53
Asura.Daleterrence said: At the OP...
If you don't like how the game is, don't play. Seriously, nobody is stopping you quitting but yourself.
Hey be nice to Dink !!!
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Server: Ramuh
Game: FFXI
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By Ramuh.Caromie 2011-03-15 18:38:34
So, the point of this post is what exactly.
If people should choose to let folks leech in their party then so be it.
Personally, I don't get to play as often as I used to, or as often as other people do. The fast exp both in and out of Abyssea I think is great.
I haven't however leeched in an Abyssea party, I prefer to solo outside than hang around. But that goes with not being able to play much. I don't really want to spend my gaming hours not doing anything.
I spent forever getting my first job to 75, its nice to be able to level faster now, and get on with other more fun things.
Ifrit.Herc
Server: Ifrit
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Posts: 138
By Ifrit.Herc 2011-03-15 18:39:45
Bahamut.Raenryong said: My NIN and BLU were Abyssea burned and are likely better than 90%+ of non-Abyssea burned NIN and BLUs.
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That my friend...is a very bold statement.
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Everybody loved to bash wow for how "easy" it was and it was the ffxi -1, but correct me if i'm wrong but does wow have you sit in a zone from lvl 30 to 70 being completely useless? The amount of people that oppose making abyssea 70+ only makes me hate what this game has become. The subject has come up millions of times and everytime the argument comes down to " the old ways suck! Gtfo."
yeah, the old mega-grind way of getting to 75 sucked, but they already adressed how slow exp was out of abyssea. Basically, ask yourself "just because the old way sucked, does that make the new way okay?"
I'm not really looking for anything to come out of this post other than people to reconsider what an mmo is and why they play. I dont ever see ffxi reversing this huge lazy mess, partialy because so many people are so Pro-leeching.
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