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 Garuda.Chanti
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-12-15 13:05:05
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Freehugs said: »
I'm not even sure where to get Swordfish lol Fish isn't something I crave. I rarely had it growing up so I guess that's why. I do enjoy Salmon cakes though.
Where did you grow up? And there are lots of better ways to cook salmon than salmon cakes.
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-12-15 13:06:57
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Garlic butter baked salmon.
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By Jetackuu 2019-12-15 13:42:40
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Jet doesn't eat fish.

A family member used to make Salmon cakes all the time, one way to get me to wretch.
 
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-12-15 16:01:25
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I'm having shrimp scampi and I don't share.
 
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-12-15 18:59:37
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Freehugs said: »
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Where did you grow up? And there are lots of better ways to cook salmon than salmon cakes.
Tennessee....
Tennessee has fish. None of them salt water, true, but lots of fish.

I would bet no one in your family fished.

https://www.aa-fishing.com/tn/tennessee-fishing.html
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By Asura.Carrotchan 2019-12-15 23:26:00
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I bought a zojirushi rice cooker since it was on deal a few days ago and omg I'll never go back, Ryan bought some piece of ***a year ago and all its done is make me hate rice by either burning up or undercooking it
 
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By Asura.Vienner 2019-12-16 02:46:11
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Josiahafk said: »
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I'm not even sure where to get Swordfish lol Fish isn't something I crave. I rarely had it growing up so I guess that's why. I do enjoy Salmon cakes though.
I feel ya. living in like the smack dab norther middle of the continent so all the seafood that reaches here is frozen or caught fresh from little lakes nearby lol
Couple of years ago we went to Austria and I almost died during that trip cause I didnt concider the lack of fishvariety. I had trout and zander for like 2 weeks straight.
Atm I eat fish everyday, which is a bit to much, starting to feel sick just hearing the word "cod". Looking for tasty alternatives with tofu.
 
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2019-12-16 11:06:28
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It wouldn't work because of a simple factor that our plantlife has adapted solely on the distance between our sun and planet.

Take the plants out of the relative safety of our atmosphere and they will wither and die, probably very quickly. I highly doubt that any plants we have on our planet will survive even 1/10th of the way towards Mars or Venus, much less in any sort of deep-space exploration.

Unless you plan on having the plants in an artificial space, but that goes against your premise of using only solar power to feed them.

TL:DR version - it wouldn't work.

Edit: Also, only 2 people in this voyage? You would run the risk of one of them going Dull-Boy-Jack during the voyage. AKA Cabin Fever.
 
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2019-12-16 12:00:53
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Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: »
they already do grow plants on the ISS without earth's atmosphere. And it wouldn't be hard to measure solar intake and modify the glass in the plant area of the space ship to make sure they always get the right amount of sunlight they need etc
I'm talking about the distance from the sun and the plants, especially the further away you go.

Photosynthesis happens because the plants adapted to the relative distance between them and the sun. But the further away you go, the less ability to convert energy to food for the plants it becomes.

I'm not talking about atmosphere in that sense. I'm talking about the distance aspect.

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if you have more people, the ship needs to be even more massive to support their food purely from the plants on board and it doesn't become practical

these are married and expert astronauts with years of training on isolation and healthy mental health away from earth etc, humans can easily overcome that kind of thing. there would be space suits to do repairs externally as needed so they would go for space walks regularly.
In theory. But in practice, unless you spend decades in isolation or analyzing a couple in isolation, you will never know what the long-term effects would be towards them. Even then, sending a group is not practical for the exact same reason. You may think that people can adapt, but if that's the case, then why do we have insanity?
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By ashcrow 2019-12-16 12:02:18
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i actually played all the game on the right, and only some on the left 2-3, and yea i played them around release date this is depressing :(
 
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By Asura.Kingnobody 2019-12-16 12:18:59
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Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: »
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but if that's the case, then why do we have insanity?
"people can train to be more resilient"
"if that's true, why do people die every day"
well yeah anything can happen, but all we can do is train and prepare and send up the best candidates for the missions etc
You are talking about improving the chances of the mission being successful, but it doesn't guarantee the overall success of it.

There are way too many variables associated with deep space exploratory missions, even with our level of technology we can see how much of a risk it would be to send anyone out for that long. But if we are just talking about the mental and emotional strain it would place on a person, there is just not enough information to justify such a mission.

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I'm talking about the distance from the sun and the plants, especially the further away you go.
that's why you'd be monitoring the sunlight and adjusting the glass to amplify and lessen it as needed based on your distance. and then you use artificial light for the plants as needed.
You can't amplify sunlight to feed a plant. It's just not possible.

You would either have to create an artificial chamber or...well, that's basically it. You can't use energy that doesn't exist, you have to create it yourself.

Long-story short, you are basing your hypothetical ideals on unknown factors and impossible technology. We have to first solve the energy factor associated with deep-space travel first before we can even attempt to think about what you are talking about.
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By Jetackuu 2019-12-16 12:23:30
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Josi to entertain your idea: probably the best solution would be to use a ship that is nuclear powered, probably once we advance more on fusion technology.

Asteroid mining would be very lucrative for natural resources, hell in 100 years we could have an ice maker in orbit dropping cubes to lower our temp.
 
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By Jetackuu 2019-12-16 13:47:25
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I see a lurking Bart.
 
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By Ragnarok.Hevans 2019-12-16 14:17:59
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yeah, space.




sound obv
 
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By Garuda.Chanti 2019-12-16 18:00:33
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KN, having done high security indoor gardening in the past I can say that plants grow just fine under artifical lighting 1/5 as intensive as sunlight.

Sunlight is way more intense in outer space due to not being filtered through earth's atmosphere. I would guess that at Jupiter's orbit sunlight is less intense than at earth's surface, but not by much.

Josi, the garden would take up 90% of the ship.
 
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By Jetackuu 2019-12-16 19:14:37
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Bismarck.Josiahflaming said: »
this could very well be the first of a series of studies to see how leaving the earth for a year or a decade might affect human beings etc

If the ship was able to have some artificial gravity then it wouldn't be too bad, otherwise prolonged exposure to near zero g environments would be extremely bad.

Starting to read more of the idea: the whole bunch of plants this is basically not probably viable. Generating enough food for 2 humans to eat healthy for prolonged periods would require a lot of space. Not to mention that people need nutrients that you're supposed to get from animals. We're omnivores, not herbivores, despite what vegan nuts try to tell people.

That's not even getting into the philosophical aspects of it. Basically all prolonged space travel would require cryofreezing, and we just don't have the tech.
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