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 Ragnarok.Psyence
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By Ragnarok.Psyence 2009-02-05 05:02:35
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I loved how you actually tried to equip greaves on your head... o.O

Knitemare said:
lol, not to come off the wrong way, but this thread reminds of how little children think they know more than adults.

Unless you have a degree in the proper scientific fields to prove or disprove global warming, your opinions are no more different than religious propaganda.

To say global warming is a science/government conspiracy is just silly because you think the "liberals" are out to get you... You're crazy.

I have nothing to say proves or disproves it, so whatever.

on that note...

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/equip legs "Barflame Brais"
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By Siren.Ragearo 2009-02-05 05:48:57
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I think however much people want to question science in this thread...

Psyence said:
I loved how you actually tried to equip greaves on your head... o.O

Knitemare said:
lol, not to come off the wrong way, but this thread reminds of how little children think they know more than adults.

Unless you have a degree in the proper scientific fields to prove or disprove global warming, your opinions are no more different than religious propaganda.

To say global warming is a science/government conspiracy is just silly because you think the "liberals" are out to get you... You're crazy.

I have nothing to say proves or disproves it, so whatever.

on that note...

/equip head "Barflame Armet"
/equip body "Barflame Mail"
/equip legs "Barflame Brais"
/equip head "Barflame Gauntlets"
/equip head "Barflame Greaves"
/ma "Barflamera II" <me></me>


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By Cerberus.Saiya 2009-02-05 06:58:45
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I'm done on the subject more or less but just as a gentle reminder to people posting:

A lot of people seem to be arguing from extremes, when the majority of the posts so far from what I CAN see have opted for the 'bit of both' idea. At least someone has scorned another for calling it purely political, when in fact they just called it 'slightly' political, and ecological as well, etc etc.

Just saying chill with the heavy words, sarcasm and insults, because it sucks :3. And read what someone posts carefully, and don't be in such a rush to counter-attack, it seems some people are being misunderstood ^^ Good thread.
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By Fairy.Yakutatazu 2009-02-05 08:33:34
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Ragearo said:
I think however much people want to question science in this thread...

Psyence said:
I loved how you actually tried to equip greaves on your head... o.O

Knitemare said:
lol, not to come off the wrong way, but this thread reminds of how little children think they know more than adults.

Unless you have a degree in the proper scientific fields to prove or disprove global warming, your opinions are no more different than religious propaganda.

To say global warming is a science/government conspiracy is just silly because you think the "liberals" are out to get you... You're crazy.

I have nothing to say proves or disproves it, so whatever.

on that note...

/equip head "Barflame Armet"
/equip body "Barflame Mail"
/equip legs "Barflame Brais"
/equip head "Barflame Gauntlets"
/equip head "Barflame Greaves"
/ma "Barflamera II" <me></me>


Nobody can question Psyence; pants do not go on head.

lol gauntlets are gloves not pants :3
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By Asura.Kiowa 2009-02-05 09:07:18
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global warming is a fact if you had a brian you could figure that out so your best bet is just to sit back and watch with you mouth wide open fargin freak job
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By Leviathan.Celestinia 2009-02-05 09:16:09
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It's really interesting reading this thread, the many viewpoints from people and the underlying reasons that people come up with to explain things lol

The things I think people are doing with regards to the environment is not making global warming happening, that's silly imo, I think we're just speeding it up. By how much? No-one knows, honestly there is lack of information on that might not even be by much at all.

There are a lot of thoeries floating around (well accepted ones at that) such as the greenhouse effect, but in truth scientists cannot currently say for certain what is happening in our atmosphere, they know very little about cloud formation and how a global environment interacts and develops. This is why billions is being spent on sending satterlites to venus to examine the CO2 rich atmosphere there and on satterlites to sit in our orbit to examine and try to understand our own environment.

It's gonna be a few decades yet before we actually know anything concrete with regards to human effect on global warming. Until then the arguement is we should be prepared and not take any chances, lest our grandchildren have to suffer, not everyone is being selfish and is only worried about what will affect them lol

Anyways... this is an interesting read, the Al gore bit was particularly funny^^
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By Fairy.Yakutatazu 2009-02-05 09:55:14
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Kiowa said:
global warming is a fact if you had a brian you could figure that out so your best bet is just to sit back and watch with you mouth wide open fargin freak job

http://www.ffxiah.com/forum/?topic_id=1250
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By Gilgamesh.Alyria 2009-02-05 10:35:06
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It's all that hairspray that was used int he 80's that caused this mess!!! I
know some of you remember the big Krimped hair! >.>

Well they made a flying car and it just went out on the market for almost 170k and they already started the cars running on electricity too.

So this global warming thing could be imo a scare tactic to make you recycle and do things the way the government wants you to. Remember the movie Demolition Man with Wesley Snipes and Sylvester Stallone, where Taco Bell is the food that survived and they couldnt say cuss words. do you really think that in the next year like 100 volcanos, 100 tornados, 100 blizzard storms are gonna magically emerge anytime soon?

I'm lost anyways, I can't always remember what the date is today or the weather for tomorrow.

Let's all go to the beach :)
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By Leviathan.Pines 2009-02-05 10:38:56
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Two words:

Carbon credits.

Do some research and some digging, and you will find the answers.

AKA: "Follow the money".
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By Diabolos.Knitemare 2009-02-05 10:45:11
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Psyence said:
I loved how you actually tried to equip greaves on your head... o.O


lol /fail!
that's what I get for not being able to test the macro! xD
(that and using copy/paste)
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By Siren.Ragearo 2009-02-05 12:06:09
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Yakutatazu said:
Ragearo said:
I think however much people want to question science in this thread...

Psyence said:
I loved how you actually tried to equip greaves on your head... o.O

Knitemare said:
lol, not to come off the wrong way, but this thread reminds of how little children think they know more than adults.

Unless you have a degree in the proper scientific fields to prove or disprove global warming, your opinions are no more different than religious propaganda.

To say global warming is a science/government conspiracy is just silly because you think the "liberals" are out to get you... You're crazy.

I have nothing to say proves or disproves it, so whatever.

on that note...

/equip head "Barflame Armet"
/equip body "Barflame Mail"
/equip legs "Barflame Brais"
/equip head "Barflame Gauntlets"
/equip head "Barflame Greaves"
/ma "Barflamera II" <me></me>


Nobody can question Psyence; pants do not go on head.

lol gauntlets are gloves not pants :3


but greaves are pants!
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By Fairy.Yakutatazu 2009-02-05 12:07:52
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No, again lol.. Greaves are boots :D
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By Siren.Ragearo 2009-02-05 12:08:48
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Yakutatazu said:
No, again lol.. Greaves are boots :D


...I think I need to go to sleep
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2009-02-05 14:08:36
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Still XD Imagine putting on shoes and gloves on your head. :D
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-02-05 15:54:29
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Alyria said:
Let's all go to the beach :)


Sounds good, its cold as heck here atm.

Thing is, it might take me a while to get to the beach, like next June or so.
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By Diabolos.Knitemare 2009-02-05 16:00:07
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Yakutatazu said:
No, again lol.. Greaves are boots :D


yes, but you can wear them on your head like I did, but people will lol at your failure! xD
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By Fairy.Yakutatazu 2009-02-05 16:09:40
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Well if they were Taru sized gloves/boots.. Us Elvaans could wear them as earmuffs :o
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-02-05 16:14:23
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Kiowa said:
global warming is a fact if you had a brian you could figure that out so your best bet is just to sit back and watch with you mouth wide open fargin freak job


Nice, not only do I have no clue as to what you are saying (not a grammer nazi, but at least I require some sort of english and sentence structure to understand people) but what I do understand is that you just came up here saying that global warming is a fact.

Yet, you have to give any information (besides everyone elses posts giving facts and reputing other facts) on why it is a fact.

Besides, I do have a brian:

User submitted image
<Side note: 2 Trees killed in search of this picture, go me!>

So basically, yeah, I'll just wait with my mouth wide open and see.....that nothing happens.....which will happen.
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-02-05 23:26:11
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Don't read the last half of page 3 to the first half of page 4, it went way off topic.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Princemercury 2009-02-05 23:30:45
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Sorry removed post.

I'll catch up on the thread later, but I agree with the op.

then...

Korpg said:
Don't read the last half of page 3 to the first half of page 4, it went way off topic.


I'll keep that in mind lol.
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2009-02-05 23:46:16
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Alyria said:
So this global warming thing could be imo a scare tactic to make you recycle and do things the way the government wants you to.

Guh, FINE--Yes, it's ALL a hoax. All the scientific research we do at countless universities in order to BETTER THE DAMNED ENVIRONMENT FOR YOU NON-BELIEVERS AND YOUR CHILDREN is pretty much useless and fraudulent! Yes, we are spending precious taxpayer money, students' tuition, and government grants JUST to do something completely unnecessary!

Look--disregarding the entire concept as a hoax is pure ignorance, and pure disrespect for the people who actually do something about it in the hopes of making some progress in helping the environment instead of HURTING it.

Alyria said:
Remember the movie Demolition Man with Wesley Snipes and Sylvester Stallone, where Taco Bell is the food that survived and they couldnt say cuss words.

Because life always happens like it does in movies >_>

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do you really think that in the next year like 100 volcanos, 100 tornados, 100 blizzard storms are gonna magically emerge anytime soon?

No, but I do recall some pretty crazy weather in the past few years. And it's only going to get crazier--and it's NOT magic, it's science.
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-02-05 23:57:47
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Anye said:
Guh, FINE--Yes, it's ALL a hoax. All the scientific research we do at countless universities in order to BETTER THE DAMNED ENVIRONMENT FOR YOU NON-BELIEVERS AND YOUR CHILDREN is pretty much useless and fraudulent! Yes, we are spending precious taxpayer money, students' tuition, and government grants JUST to do something completely unnecessary!

Look--disregarding the entire concept as a hoax is pure ignorance, and pure disrespect for the people who actually do something about it in the hopes of making some progress in helping the environment instead of HURTING it.


Scientifically Unnecessary, no.

Politically Unnecessary, yes.

There is a difference between the two. Whatever we do now will not take effect in our lifetimes, good or bad.

But what the political implications are showing, and what "popular belief" wants you to believe, we have to do something now or we will die in the next 5 years because we are going to lose all of our ozone at that time.

I agree with you Anye, we should stimulate the science more.

But to elect our leaders with this as one of our issues? No. This should not be a political issue at all, or a very minor one if needed.

Will Global Warming reduction create jobs? In the long run, no. It will create lost jobs because if companies have to create more expensive "green" products, the money has to come somewhere, either from loss jobs or loss of the company (which also produces loss jobs, you are screwed either way). Technology is not free.

Will Global Warming reduction bring world peace? No. Not everyone is going to agree with Global Warming, and some nations will think that this is "America's imperialism demanding the control of the world's population." Think thats a good thing for our neighbors to think?

Will Global Warming reduction lower taxes? Um.....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHahahahahahaha......

So basically, why would Global Warming reduction be a topic in anything politically if it wasn't to bring power to one person or group?

Noticed anything yet?
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By Ragnarok.Anye 2009-02-06 00:07:37
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Korpg said:
So basically, why would Global Warming reduction be a topic in anything politically if it wasn't to bring power to one person or group?

Noticed anything yet?

/sigh.... This is why I hate politics.... They ruin everything, even science T_T
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By Leviathan.Celestinia 2009-02-06 00:20:17
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Korpg said:
this is "America's imperialism demanding the control of the world's population."


Um no bad Korpg lol America has been one of the nations to avoid buying into global warming for a long time, they havent been singing up to most of the agreements on global warming, if anything people in the rest of the world campainging for action view America almost as bad as China.

America is seen as one of the "bad guys" when it comes to saving the worlds environment. It's only recently that global pressure has started to force your governments hand a bit on the issue, plus the fact that the subject is a vote winner.
 
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-02-06 00:26:51
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Celestinia said:
Korpg said:
this is "America's imperialism demanding the control of the world's population."
Um no bad Korpg lol America has been one of the nations to avoid buying into global warming for a long time, they havent been singing up to most of the agreements on global warming, if anything people in the rest of the world campainging for action view America almost as bad as China.

America is seen as one of the "bad guys" when it comes to saving the worlds environment. It's only recently that global pressure has started to force your governments hand a bit on the issue, plus the fact that the subject is a vote winner.


I know about the Kyoto Protocol, seeing as I'm like right next to it and everything.

But do you honestly think that once America signs on to it (which will happen soon btw, I believe) that this isn't what our less than friendly neighbors will say about us?

<Edit> Damn, Bartimaeus beat me to it.
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By Leviathan.Celestinia 2009-02-06 00:33:13
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Korpg said:
But do you honestly think that once America signs on to it (which will happen soon btw, I believe) that this isn't what our less than friendly neighbors will say about us?


Possibly, if the USA were to take a stance on it and begin to set rules and expectations that the rest of the world should follow then people will most likely say "damn Americans thinking they're the worlds leaders" lol
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By Unicorn.Smurfo 2009-02-06 00:34:18
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"No, but I do recall some pretty crazy weather in the past few years. And it's only going to get crazier--and it's NOT magic, it's science."

Yah, the last few february We've had here... up to 70 degree weather when it should be dead of winter I dont know if global warming is attributed to that but... i remember when i was a kid never, ever, ever did we have nice weather in january/february

Could be purely coincidental, as could the mass flooding we experienced all summer long here, who knows. I think people debating it are simply debating it for something to do with themselves, since we can't really prove it right or wrong, it's rather pointless to debate...

I think calling it a completely political propaganda agenda to push green products or raise oil prices is very, very extreme or paranoid one of the two.

People wanting to care about their planet shouldn't be a politically biased motive, but since it appears to be such, i'd have to say I agree we should take better care of the earth.

" But what the political implications are showing, and what "popular belief" wants you to believe, we have to do something now or we will die in the next 5 years because we are going to lose all of our ozone at that time."

Without it we are done, our children, grandchildren etc etc, you may be selfish enough to say that you don't care if they have to live underground since nothing will change in your lifetime but i'm not.

Anyway, I do think it's a stupid debate, is it really that bad or hard to personally cut down on pollutants that you use that you would rather argue it into the ground?

I dont think it is, but thats me, I do like to argue over some dumb ***too, but the way i see this one, if it really is all BS or not, at least I did some things that were good for a change, lol.
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By Asura.Korpg 2009-02-06 00:34:58
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Celestinia said:
Korpg said:
But do you honestly think that once America signs on to it (which will happen soon btw, I believe) that this isn't what our less than friendly neighbors will say about us?
Possibly, if the USA were to take a stance on it and begin to set rules and expectations that the rest of the world should follow then people will most likely say "damn Americans thinking they're the worlds leaders" lol


What about the Japanese? Kyoto Protocol and all that.

Naw, they will just see the U.S.A. on the form and go nuklear on it.
 
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