Global Warming Is A Hoax.

Okay here it is. No global warming is not a hoax. To say its a "Liberal scheme or idea" is an ignorant statement.

Seeing as scientists agree (not all but a vast majority) that global warming is a problem we should take heed. Read some reports National Geographic (fully funded by donations) or other very credible articles out there and you will see that it is a problem. And not all these scientists are "liberal" or leaning to the left as some say. The polar ice caps and glaciers are not melting at a rapid rate because humans are "busting ***" more, its because we put tons of crap into the atmosphere. People who live in the bigger cities like LA and NY have higher rates of lung problems like asthma and emphisema because they suck that ***down their throats.

I'm surprised none of the right wing people posting on this page have called it climate change as George "i'm a dumbass" Bush tried to change the lingo.

Its not just the oil thats the problem, its the fact that humans are the biggest parasites on earth. We eat everything up (i'm talking about wildlife, vegetation, and minerals) and spew out tons of garbage. Check out what China does to their plot of land on this earth if you want to see what lack of restraint shows. Or go live in Mexico City for a couple of years, you won't have to smoke cigarettes there just step outside and take a few deap breaths. Did you know that that same vegetation we don't replace (especialy trees) actually cleans poluted air?. Most people don't give a rats *** because its not gonna get bad until the beginning of next century.

A greener plan would be nice. More hybrid cars, less OPEC screwing us out of billions (like that price hike during summer, then drop at winter when we drive less). More green energy and less reliance on OPEC would be cool. If we were all driving Aptera (google it) we could put a big hurt on the middle east. Watch their profit margins fall and their people riot and hopefully kill those worthless money/oil grubbing leaders they have (I wish). Don't need a glass desert policy if you make their #1 resource worth crap.

Check out how Austria and South Korea beat us (America) in recycling. If had a more proficient recycling system we could create jobs doing so. But Americans would rather eat their twinkies, watch Oprah, and drive their SUVs then have someone infringe on their rights to be fat, lazy, *** (30% of you *** are obese) who believe you earn your rights just being born here and paying taxes. I'm a Marine (in good shape) and don't like the way my country is turning out. I've been around the world and realize we have more porkers who have that "I'm an American and can do what I want so f$%k the environment, oh and were is my twinkie!!" attitude.

Solutions: (1)Create more green jobs in renewable energy (i.e. Wind, Solar, Tidal)(2) Mandatory recycling for companies/citizens (also creates huge amount of jobs)(3)Require car companies to create more fuel efficient cars within certain deadlines, with 90% of their cars being hybrids.(4)More funding into renewable energy science.(5)Use our own oil instead of relying on OPEC.(6)Expand light rail and public tranit systems in cities.(7)..."Your ideas here"

@ Wooooooooodum ... This is a politicaly charged DEBATE and the people who posted on the 1st page made direct/indirect references to claiming this is "Liberal" or "Democrate" issue. I also put on some facts into my side of the debate and did a little mud slinging. If you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen chica cause thats what a DEBATE is all about..

@ Wooooooooodum ... This is a politicaly charged DEBATE and the people who posted on the 1st page made direct/indirect references to claiming this is "Liberal" or "Democrate" issue. I also put on some facts into my side of the debate and did a little mud slinging. If you can't take the heat stay out of the kitchen chica cause thats what a DEBATE is all about. @ Anye good stuff, very technical, but backs up what i posted above.

Present to me your scientific proof to summarise your post. A link of some kind would be good, as we've already established you talk nonsense (Re-read your first line again, if you would be so kind, to remind yourself of what I'm referring to).

As I said on the page before, post your proof and I will convert my opinion entirely. All that is being posted is opinion and quoted facts, these are not good enough. These are not proof. How do we know people aren't making them up as they go along? Post proof, otherwise, my opinions are my own, and how dare you call me ignorant because it disagrees with yours.

Depleting the Ozone Layer:
The ozone layer is composed of O3 molecules that are formed due to the photodissociation and recombination of O + O2 -> 03 molecules. This entire process takes a lot of energy, but this chemical reaction is exactly what saves us from being burned up by the sun's rays--about 90% of the energy from the sun goes into this reaction.

Bring in CFCs (Chlorofluorocarbons, CFCl3) into the atmosphere, and the energy from the light easily dissociates a Cl from the atom:
CFCl3 + hv (light) --> CFCl2 + Cl
This Cl ion is extremely dangerous in the atmosphere, as it can pretty much react with the unstable O3 of the ozone layers to create a more stable molecule of ClO, which reacts with another O3 molecule to form 2 stable O2 molecules, and pretty much disrupt the ozone dissociation-recombination cycle.

The whole idea behind chemical reactions is that molecules will take the easiest reaction, given the right "ingredients" or reactants, to give the most stable product, hence why unstable O3 molecules are so reactive, and Cl molecules find it very easy to react and disrupt this cycle--it doesn't take as much energy to create ClO molecules as it does to create O3 molecules.

The "Greenhouse Effect":
Here's the basic equation: Any alkane found in carbon-based fossil fuels combusts (reacts with oxygen) in the presence of heat in order to form CO2 and water. Nothing is generally harmful about carbon dioxide, it's just that, given BILLIONS of people doing this every day, we create a HELL of a lot of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere. Why is this bad? It turns the planet Earth into a more effective "black body"--essentially, any sort of electromagnetic radiation (i.e., rays of light from the sun) is absorbed and kept more readily instead of radiating or reflecting a fraction the radiation.

THAT much we know, and can confirm. Now as to the degree by which humans have CAUSED all this--we drive cars, used hairspray/Freon/styrofoam cups with CFCs, and the Industrial Revolution in the 18th and 19th centuries sure didn't help much, either--well, I'd say we helped it quite a lot, and should probably do something about it. The government, I'd say, just got a little bit smarter.

I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not. You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.

I would like to say this ..
How long have we been recording data for weather? Say 1850 we started recording so that's about 160 years now let's say the earth is 3000 years old now the data we have is about 18.75% of history, now let's say the earth is millions of years old now the data we have is below 1%. How many people use data that dose not give the full facts? Probably lot's of people but, it's not the full picture now I am not saying we are not making it go faster but the figure are incomplete. I'm not saying that global warming is not out there or is i am still on the fence

I believe in the 3 R's .. recycle reuse and .. i forget the 3rd one lol any way im all for recycling and green power.

Wow, in the 1hr of my driving lesson the thread exploooded o,o

The question we're asking ourselves is: do we assume it's a bank error and buy the TV on credit anyway?

i really like this ---->plan. it may not be the answer 100% but its a really sound plan.

It's a symptom. You're treating a symptom, and the disease rages on, consumes the human race. The fish rots from the head, as they say. So what I'm thinking is, why not cut off the head?

@ Korpg where did you get all those percentages? or was that the 78% of statistics are made on the spot, including this one.

Iirc, in my econ class, we learned that "trade is good." Trade doesn't mean we're dependent on other countries, but sharing our resources, a "win-win" situation. Independence is somewhat a negative thing--being totally independent, we lose the advantage of gaining opportunities if, say, Japan invents some new-fangled electronic.

Also, Say we do become "independent" of foreign oil. It's going to a) run out eventually, and b) potentially severely harm the environment (depending on your point of view). Hence the need for "cleaner" and a more renewable source of energy.