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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-03-25 13:37:10
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So... I err cancelled my pre-order.

I decided that I'm probably not going to play too much and I had bills etc. I was essentially paying my last £30 for a game I don't have time to play.

So I'll probably pick it up monday after next.

Kind of a bummer, but oh well.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-03-25 13:37:14
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Mainly attack ones with a bunch of booster ones, like "Attack BRV" and "After 30 seconds" since most battles now last much longer since they reduced Crit damage, stage BRV, and Wall Rush damage. Even the simplest of CPUs take at least 2~3 HP moves to take down.

Oh and 013's Chaos is easier this time since you have a party system. I kept forgetting I did, so I was constantly retrying then I realized the "Proceed Battle" or whatever option that allowed my next person in. I had him to 1HP in his third form with Zidane and died. Sent in Bartz, let him hit me, EX Revenged and Ragnarok Blade's him xD

Edit: Another bizarre thing. In the credits, they show cutscenes of even the reports, assuming we've looked at them already, lol. So much for watching them now. I guess I can skip though.
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By Ramuh.Mizuharu 2011-03-25 14:37:19
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Just beat the main storylines. Need to polish off a few more reports and then LEVEL/GIL/AP GRIND UGH.

Also, quick question. Is anyone reminded of Kingdom Hearts 2 Heartless "burning circle" fights when they hear the J-E-N-O-V-A music? >.>
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By Ramuh.Mizuharu 2011-03-25 23:44:59
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OH. MY. ***. GOD.

I just Yuna burned Feral Chaos. It was hot...

...


... Yeah, I cheated. >.> Mega Flare spam go!

It let me record it so... Let's see if I can't upload it.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-25 23:52:26
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
So... I err cancelled my pre-order.

I decided that I'm probably not going to play too much and I had bills etc. I was essentially paying my last £30 for a game I don't have time to play.

So I'll probably pick it up monday after next.

Kind of a bummer, but oh well.

/piratemode on
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By Ramuh.Mizuharu 2011-03-26 00:10:47
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This is kinda what I did... But not me. >.> I'm so going to get a Wall Rush/Lai Strike build for Yuna now...
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-03-26 08:04:07
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Yoooooooooooooo

Aerith is so broken xD
As long as the person doesn't hit her in time to get her stun off, it hits 100%.

Oh, an interesting find for KP:

If you're having trouble, here's your solution...for life.
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By Asura.Alexstaifter 2011-03-26 08:39:38
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Ramuh.Mizuharu said:


This is kinda what I did... But not me. >.> I'm so going to get a Wall Rush/Lai Strike build for Yuna now...


A spam move on a F. Chaos that was what I saw around Average difficulty.

Play a F.Chaos on max on that stage, you aint gonna have time to move.
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By Unicorn.Leoheart 2011-03-26 08:47:15
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Ramuh.Haseyo said:
Yoooooooooooooo

Aerith is so broken xD
As long as the person doesn't hit her in time to get her stun off, it hits 100%.

Oh, an interesting find for KP:

If you're having trouble, here's your solution...for life.

what wait what? KP jesus they did a lot with this game so far :O
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By Bismarck.Misao 2011-03-26 09:19:20
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Unicorn.Leoheart said:
Ramuh.Haseyo said:
Yoooooooooooooo

Aerith is so broken xD
As long as the person doesn't hit her in time to get her stun off, it hits 100%.

Oh, an interesting find for KP:

If you're having trouble, here's your solution...for life.

what wait what? KP jesus they did a lot with this game so far :O

Laguna's Satellite bomb, and Vaan's torrent works nicely on most of those 1hp mobs.
I'll try it, but i wont time-warp my psp xD
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By Ramuh.Mizuharu 2011-03-26 13:33:45
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Asura.Alexstaifter said:
Ramuh.Mizuharu said:


This is kinda what I did... But not me. >.> I'm so going to get a Wall Rush/Lai Strike build for Yuna now...


A spam move on a F. Chaos that was what I saw around Average difficulty.

Play a F.Chaos on max on that stage, you aint gonna have time to move.

This was the boss fight against the 00 one I believe... Not like he could change the battle mode of it >.>
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By Asura.Alexstaifter 2011-03-26 16:12:36
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Ramuh.Mizuharu said:
Asura.Alexstaifter said:
Ramuh.Mizuharu said:


This is kinda what I did... But not me. >.> I'm so going to get a Wall Rush/Lai Strike build for Yuna now...


A spam move on a F. Chaos that was what I saw around Average difficulty.

Play a F.Chaos on max on that stage, you aint gonna have time to move.

This was the boss fight against the 00 one I believe... Not like he could change the battle mode of it >.>

what i meant was that alot of hp a tough fight doesnt make
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By Bismarck.Moonlightespada 2011-03-26 16:24:28
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So anyone unlock Prishe or Gilgamesh yet?
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By Asura.Natenn 2011-03-26 16:30:53
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emo cause its hard to lvl prishe & use her effectivly, where am i supposed to farm gil/Gear/Mats ect? Labrynth sucks you can't keep your ***
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By Ramuh.Mizuharu 2011-03-26 16:36:02
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Asura.Natenn said:
emo cause its hard to lvl prishe & use her effectivly, where am i supposed to farm gil/Gear/Mats ect? Labrynth sucks you can't keep your ***

If you draw the Geomancer card, you can keep the gear you get
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By Asura.Natenn 2011-03-26 16:41:57
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all of it or only the cave symbol ones?
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By Bismarck.Patrik 2011-03-26 16:45:55
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Asura.Natenn said:
emo cause its hard to lvl prishe & use her effectivly, where am i supposed to farm gil/Gear/Mats ect? Labrynth sucks you can't keep your ***
000 the untold story, its a world map story mode than you can use any character in (and you use a 5 person party) its a lot like inward chaos from first dissidia, downside is you gotta be about 50 before you can handle the fights there

oh and you unlock it by either paying 2000 PP or... im guessing beat all the old stories, not sure on that though since i haven't done it yet
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-03-26 16:51:39
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Bismarck.Moonlightespada said:
So anyone unlock Prishe or Gilgamesh yet?

Yeah, it's mad easy. Not like Shantotto and Gabranth in the first one. Just read one of the CS's in a report and read another report and fight Gilgamesh (he's Lv15; have to use Bartz which isn't an issue since he's badass in this one...again.).

Both cost 200 or 300 PP, can't remember. No big deal either way.

Haven't tried Gilgamesh yet since today is my bonus day and I'm AP / PP farming by doing Quick Matches against Lv1 CPUs back to back to back to back to back...
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-26 16:55:50
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He sucks.
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-03-26 16:58:29
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He's a total luck character. Might get trolled with a bad weapon, might get a weapon that can instantly break someone.

He's too inconsistent to use seriously, but pretty damn fun to use from what I've seen.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-03-26 17:04:13
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He is too slow tbh... If his attacks miss it makes him open to attack for too long also.
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By Asura.Natenn 2011-03-26 17:28:59
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How do i unlock those last 3 reports? @@
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-03-26 17:37:11
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Did you finish all of 000?
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By Caitsith.Ravant 2011-03-26 17:47:52
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I love Yuna shes fun!
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-03-26 17:55:48
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Yeah I'm gonna AP farm her after I get characters with BRV -> HP attacks done. I forgot how difficult it was to kill without them with some characters, lol. I'm looking at you, WoL |:
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By Gilgamesh.Sanctferum 2011-03-26 22:24:26
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The summon compendium says that there's a strong connection between Magus Sisters and Shikaree Sisters...anyone who's played more FFXI than me, can you help me figure out what the hell they're talking about? Just cuz a girl has two sisters doesn't mean there's any connection...

Summon compendium on Magus Sisters, under XI: "A group known as the Sin Hunters appear in FFXI...One is not bound to associate this group with the Magus Sisters at first, but a striking connection is revealed later on."
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By Ramuh.Haseyo 2011-03-26 22:31:42
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http://www.jpbutton.com/?p=1449
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By Bismarck.Luces 2011-03-27 00:43:54
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What does feint do? would you want to use feint with tife(every other cosmos character but her is lvl 40+ now so their is literally nothing I can do in this game except be forced to play stupid Tifa)). so I set Kefka to calm, minimal, and lvl 1(my tifa is lvl 3), because I wanted to understand what feint does. So far all I know is that it stops my combo, makes me appear on the other side of where the cpu was standing, causes the cpu to be teleported the opposite way 15 feet instantly and take no damage and when I appear I'm covered in green lightning things that keeps me from atking, dodging, moving or anything until I stop glowing green after 2-3 seconds. according to the atk guide thing it says I'm suppose to be able to atk after feint and to continue a chain, so whats going on? I understand she sucks but why does she have an instant loose match button, so far every time I use it I can't move cpu gets a charged assist gauge brakes me then kills me(and yes I'm talking about the lvl 1 calm/minimal cpu)

Also I am unsure of fighting npc's now, I will set(ussualy kefka since he likes to run away more the most, never cloud of darkness because she spams hp atks and I'm not always set up for dodging these when mastering abilities) to calm and minmal, npcs dodge chase bravery atks 70% of the time(currently rounded up), they are pretty bad at dodging the hp atks, but I need ap so really that just makes everything worse and I have to avoid chase(which sucks because wall rush does such ***damage now unless geared for it its worthless), and so far the CPU's odin has an 80% success rate(32 uses against me 26 brakes). the amount the computer cheats in this version is what makes me want to throw it up against the wall, I don't loose the fights I just get so pissed at the cheating the cpu does that I literally can't stand to play(and yes when I'm fighting a lvl 1 version of my lvl 1(or even using a lvl 50) and the cpu uses an attack that the character won't learn until his 20-40's, or successfully lands odin his 6th time to use it in a row. I turn my psp off right then and wait at least 30min b4 I play again. What is this games version of D1's npc on calm? I've tried about everything and the more relaxed of a fighter that makes it sound like it would make the cpu, the harder the fights.


There are quite a few errors in there but that doesn't mean the sisters are in ffxi it just means they are referenced, just like phoenix is only referenced.
Many of summons in dissidia are listed as being in X1 and are not summons in XI. Also notice Shinryui in D1 is not listed as being in 11 so most likely they wouldn't put the magus sisters in dissidia before they where in xi if they didn't with shiny.
Tiamat, behemoth, lich, mandragora, and kracken are summons in dissidia 1 listed under being in 11. Freakin krackens, mandys, and lich's are common mobs as low as lvl 10. I'm kinda surprised that marilith isn't counted as being in 11 as she looks a hell of a lot like someone in Medusa's snake woman crew. Phoenix is listed as being in 11 and its only talked about as part of one of the story lines and really was kinda a pointless part of the storyline and opposite of what phoenix normally is. Also kinda made impossible to be a summon as well.
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By Ramuh.Mizuharu 2011-03-28 02:21:17
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Bismarck.Luces said:
What does feint do? would you want to use feint with tife(every other cosmos character but her is lvl 40+ now so their is literally nothing I can do in this game except be forced to play stupid Tifa)). so I set Kefka to calm, minimal, and lvl 1(my tifa is lvl 3), because I wanted to understand what feint does. So far all I know is that it stops my combo, makes me appear on the other side of where the cpu was standing, causes the cpu to be teleported the opposite way 15 feet instantly and take no damage and when I appear I'm covered in green lightning things that keeps me from atking, dodging, moving or anything until I stop glowing green after 2-3 seconds. according to the atk guide thing it says I'm suppose to be able to atk after feint and to continue a chain, so whats going on? I understand she sucks but why does she have an instant loose match button, so far every time I use it I can't move cpu gets a charged assist gauge brakes me then kills me(and yes I'm talking about the lvl 1 calm/minimal cpu)

Also I am unsure of fighting npc's now, I will set(ussualy kefka since he likes to run away more the most, never cloud of darkness because she spams hp atks and I'm not always set up for dodging these when mastering abilities) to calm and minmal, npcs dodge chase bravery atks 70% of the time(currently rounded up), they are pretty bad at dodging the hp atks, but I need ap so really that just makes everything worse and I have to avoid chase(which sucks because wall rush does such ***damage now unless geared for it its worthless), and so far the CPU's odin has an 80% success rate(32 uses against me 26 brakes). the amount the computer cheats in this version is what makes me want to throw it up against the wall, I don't loose the fights I just get so pissed at the cheating the cpu does that I literally can't stand to play(and yes when I'm fighting a lvl 1 version of my lvl 1(or even using a lvl 50) and the cpu uses an attack that the character won't learn until his 20-40's, or successfully lands odin his 6th time to use it in a row. I turn my psp off right then and wait at least 30min b4 I play again. What is this games version of D1's npc on calm? I've tried about everything and the more relaxed of a fighter that makes it sound like it would make the cpu, the harder the fights.


There are quite a few errors in there but that doesn't mean the sisters are in ffxi it just means they are referenced, just like phoenix is only referenced.
Many of summons in dissidia are listed as being in X1 and are not summons in XI. Also notice Shinryui in D1 is not listed as being in 11 so most likely they wouldn't put the magus sisters in dissidia before they where in xi if they didn't with shiny.
Tiamat, behemoth, lich, mandragora, and kracken are summons in dissidia 1 listed under being in 11. Freakin krackens, mandys, and lich's are common mobs as low as lvl 10. I'm kinda surprised that marilith isn't counted as being in 11 as she looks a hell of a lot like someone in Medusa's snake woman crew. Phoenix is listed as being in 11 and its only talked about as part of one of the story lines and really was kinda a pointless part of the storyline and opposite of what phoenix normally is. Also kinda made impossible to be a summon as well.

First off, when you use a feint, you are suppose to hit the attack button of the attack type you feinted to continue the combo. Like if you're feinting Burning Arrow, hit the square button, then X, then square again when you reappear/before the "green lightning" wears off.

Second, Phoenix wasn't just referenced. She was Tenzen's sword. Remember? Until she fused with that kid in the CoP missions... Forgot his name... Anyway, yeah. They just list the Final Fantasy games that the summons appear in. They don't have to appear as actual summons. You'll notice that the Gilgamesh summon in Dissidia 1 lists FFXI, but we all know he's just an NPC in Norg.
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