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I think reskinning the AF would be a terrible idea.
What if you:
Like the look of the original JSE
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Want the stats of the +5 JSE?
Umm...whoopsie? I guess now you need to have twice as much JSE in your inventory, so you can lockstyle the old stuff over the new ones?
I'm not saying SE aren't dumb enough to do it, sure maybe they will, but it would be an extremely bad idea.
I also think people are way too optimistic (and have been all along) about JSE+5. The JSE+4 is already strong enough as-is, and doesn't need any kind of bump in stats. We got a shitton of BiS pieces with nice boosts to eva, meva, and relevant base stats all over the place, and everyone's reaction was like "that's it? Where's my +5?"
Not saying SE won't cave in to the pressure and make +5 but again...I think it would be a huge mistake.
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By Rairin on 2025-11-28 16:18:24
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I cannot imagine thought without words.
Thought is the process of connecting related concepts. Words are the way you express them. Consider someone who speaks multiple languages; even if language is a component to creating an idea, the idea continues to exist independent of the language.
I'm not sure if that really helps; I'm certainly no expert. I see thought as a level of abstraction higher than language. Obviously different people have different verbal IQs and ways of thinking; someone with aphantasia would likely have a very difficult time differentiating thought from language.
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I cannot imagine thought without words
Images?
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By Chanti on 2025-11-28 16:00:36
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@Thorny
The part that confuses me:
Quote: “The problem is that according to current neuroscience, human thinking is largely independent of human language — and we have little reason to believe ever more sophisticated modeling of language will create a form of intelligence that meets or surpasses our own,” I cannot imagine thought without words. I have studied zen, the art of no thought. One approach to zen is to divorce yourself from words. "Silencing the monkey." That monkey that chatters on inside our heads.
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I posted a few times in linkshell chat and so far only have 1 reply, he’s already posted here so hopefully we get a few more
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I'll do a comprehensive update when i get a chance, but after reading that official forum thread I thought I'd share some insights on things I have NOT done to hit rank 9
I don't have a number of mog garden titles, i still need the 500/1000 day pond/ocean ones as well as the 500/1000 monster raising/killing ones. I do have all the rearing mementos
I have not de-leveled any crafts to get additional titles for veteran GP items.
I am 'only' midway through stage 3 crafting shield.
I don't have the 500/1000 MMM titles, I do have the full set of runes.
I've done a bunch of monstrosity, which is what tipped me to rank 8 originally. but not TONS - I focused on unlocking the monsters that required item trades in case the were considered "quests". I still need to do adamantoise, my highest lvl monster is 70.
I do have one of the brown mage titles, but I don't think by any means that would be mandatory content.
I have completed every quest and mission in the game, and beaten all endgame content except the last 3 MTs.
IMO I feel like while some of these more unreasonable tasks might fast track you up a rank, they aren't mandatory to get you there. there's probably some baseline req for certain content to qualify for a rank + x amount of points from titles/skills etc to actually get to it.
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Tonight's the night! Three hours to go! (unless Dex pushes it back to fit more people in?)
I havnt gotten any replies outside of the 3 subs on the list that wont currently be in the main alliance. They'll fill in if anyone doesnt show.
That being said, Still need 4 or so more ppl to fill in the outside alliance (no title), if anyone has spare mules or friends who'd be willing to take the gil reward for their black abyssite!
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By Eiryl on 2025-11-28 15:27:25
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Where else would they come from
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By on 2025-11-28 15:20:23
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By Karppa on 2025-11-28 14:12:16
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YouTube Video Placeholder It's just a video of you leeching a clear. Nothing about the PUP themselves, what they do, what gear they wear, what attachments they use. Nothing informational at all. What's the point of this exactly? Point was easy to pup solo
"I honestly don’t know what people expect from these videos. I recorded it because it was funny, and I don’t want to have to put something negative in every post. In this game, I don’t feel the need to boost my own ego. Also, my friend’s Bookki could chill out sometimes… even though you were really bad at Ballista, have a good Friday night."
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Bahamut.Perigueux said: »Looks like we may be finally getting functional versions of the Ark Angel sets? I'm stoked but my eyes are hurting.

Speculation going around JP players is that there might be a full 22 sets as perhaps AF+5, since Limbus is only “60% complete.” Picture is Gemini-made but just something to consider.

If you're going to speculate crystal armor, then the only reasonable NM that should be dropping that set (or fragments to upgrade to crystal armor) should be Provenance Watcher.
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Tonight's the night! Three hours to go! (unless Dex pushes it back to fit more people in?)
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By Karppa on 2025-11-28 13:58:20
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YouTube Video Placeholder It's just a video of you leeching a clear. Nothing about the PUP themselves, what they do, what gear they wear, what attachments they use. Nothing informational at all. What's the point of this exactly? Point was easy to pup solo
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YouTube Video Placeholder It's just a video of you leeching a clear. Nothing about the PUP themselves, what they do, what gear they wear, what attachments they use. Nothing informational at all. What's the point of this exactly?
To remind you he's not on your block list and should be.
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By Karppa on 2025-11-28 13:53:10
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YouTube Video Placeholder It's just a video of you leeching a clear. Nothing about the PUP themselves, what they do, what gear they wear, what attachments they use. Nothing informational at all. What's the point of this exactly? Not sure I don't play pup but I tried make pt some pup said he wanted to solo it..so I said go for it.. HM's is Hm and yes I was leeching Hm's this time..why not try to deal it...
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By Chanti on 2025-11-28 13:52:12
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YouTube Video Placeholder It's just a video of you leeching a clear. Nothing about the PUP themselves, what they do, what gear they wear, what attachments they use. Nothing informational at all. What's the point of this exactly?
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By Karppa on 2025-11-28 13:20:53
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By Karppa on 2025-11-28 13:17:07
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By Genoxd on 2025-11-28 13:13:56
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I'm leveling enfeebling skill
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By Nalf on 2025-11-28 13:03:11
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I’m sorry but I’m not doing that.
All good I understand, you're probably just as paranoid as I am with sharing private emails on a forum.
The screenshots of the emails have already been going around apparently, so if you don't trust me you can always ask Thorny to pass them over.
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I think 99% of people who post here is having some degree of boredom
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I’m just sharing what’s going around for funsies. Oh and just to point out since I didn’t see it mentioned here earlier, they did reskin Omega/Ultima.
Higher res:

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By enoch on 2025-11-28 12:26:14
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Why would SE give a generic reskin to AF
First thing that comes to mind is that they want more models to use on mobs so they can have HQ variants of the limbus NMs. VNM shadows for HQ NM pops might've been too subtle, give the HQ versions prismatic gear or whatever, make em shiny.
That said, I don't think it's likely. I think if they had more than just 2 sets they would've shown them - so I'm psyching myself up for upgraded homam/nashira... but that just begs the question, why not give THOSE sets the primastic treatment?
Maybe they gave an intern the task of recoloring the texture maps for a bunch of popular gear sets or whatever. "Apply this photoshop filter to each of these textures." Maybe they had an AI do it. We'll find out soon enough.
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Ark Angels are Zilart anyway, not CoP.
Probably a pointless lore detail, but the AAs were created by the Zilart. It wouldn't be thematically or canonically incorrect (if they make usable AA gear) to have it come from some research apparatus in Sea.
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10 new sets is still a pretty high bar. Odyssey only had 5. Limbus v2 only had 4. It's more likely than 22, and they do have the models to pull it off easily. But, I wouldn't be that surprised to see just the two sets for omegav5 and ultimav5. I also wouldn't be surprised if the white AA sets were cosmetics and omega/ultima just drop 1-2 more rerelease sets of homam/nashira each.
Thanks for the context! I completely agree by the way, I don't expect any more than 5 sets at the most, but 2 or 4 sets feel more likely.
But I've encountered several people hyping themselves up for AF/Rel+5 coming with reskins this update, and I really don't think that's happening.
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By Chanti on 2025-11-28 11:30:34
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I'm bored.
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For 1, that's not AF. Yall must not know what WAR AF looks like
2, they're not going to waste a reskin on an upgrade, gear doesn't alter it's appearance when +1 +2 +5 etc Ark Angel Hume is a reskin WAR AF.
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I wouldn't be surprised if these were just new login point reward lockstyle pieces.
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By Karppa on 2025-11-28 11:13:44
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