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By Carbuncle.Nynja on 2025-12-05 16:40:23
Gross no I dont click youtube links
By Veydal1 on 2025-12-05 15:22:26
Just FYI regarding Tishtrya, it's main gain from R15 is the extra accuracy. Comes in handy for Aminon especially. The damage increase is marginal, like 1.5% or so.
By on 2025-12-05 15:01:27
By Nariont on 2025-12-05 14:49:30
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
I'm trying to find the post where they say thf has to be neutered because of TH, and while I cant find it, I did find some gems.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/11492-Screwed-again-Proposed-THF-job-adjustments.?p=153704&viewfull=1#post153704

Quote:
Due to the fact that normal attacks now increase the effects of Treasure Hunter, we chose to forgo the addition of Subtle Blow as a trade off.

Granted this is 14 years ago, still hilarious that the thought process is "well you can raise TH, so you dont need Subtle Blow".

By their logic of TH(i know its an old post) drops should be 1% or below without a thf considering how much they weigh it vs actually improving the job
By Selindrile on 2025-12-05 14:45:56
By Goltana101 on 2025-12-05 14:38:08
I have to make one then, it's one of the singularly few Aeonics I never made (Staff, Shield, and Club).
By Asura.Iamaman on 2025-12-05 14:36:47
Carbuncle.Nynja said: »
Shiva.Thorny said: »
Art reflects culture. It's a strange choice, but it's hardly enough to assume the game is ruined. Now, if the entire game is full of references intended for millenial man-children.. then yea, it's not great. I love Metroid; I'll suspend skepticism until there's evidence it's a game-wide issue.
https://x.com/tyrrankpx/status/1996689965283979505?s=46&t=DrQ-3Mjgm3wkXgNXiMq0kA

Is this the first time Samus has to have someone mod her weapons for her?

DO YOU SEE
By Onizukaa on 2025-12-05 14:31:35
Returning player from 10 years ago and only have a geared war looking for a sortie team. Have cleared 8boss with pugs before.
By Veydal1 on 2025-12-05 14:29:17
Aeonic R15 crushes the other options by far at 1k. Judgment scales too well to not have the +500 TP bonus outweigh other options. In practice, if leveraging a proper Occult Acumen set, you're more likely to WS in the 1500-1800 range (SAM roll adds a significant amount). The higher in TP, the closer it gets, Prime becoming better after the 2k mark or so.
By Carbuncle.Nynja on 2025-12-05 14:27:05
Viciouss said: »
Big news today is Netflix is buying Warner Bros and HBO Max. I'm honestly glad, there are way too many paid streaming services. Netflix has always been king, and this should help everyone.
The best news for this is the Nemesis system is now in Netflix control

Thats also the worst news
By Shadowmeld on 2025-12-05 14:22:24
Yeah, that was what really bummed me out about it.
By Veydal1 on 2025-12-05 14:22:07
THF vs DNC in same party with same buffs / debuffs, THF will do more damage. Problem, again, is that you're limited to 6 slots. Why bring THF when you can bring WAR (Warcry for other DDs in PT), DRG (Angon), DNC (haste samba, steps), etc. The straight damage you lose from DNC instead of THF, you more than gain from having haste samba and / or steps...

I hope beyond hope, that they revisit job balancing. They acknowledged it was up there on the survey in their follow-up to it, so maybe I'll get my wish on the 30th anniversary.
By Carbuncle.Nynja on 2025-12-05 14:20:23
Shiva.Thorny said: »
Art reflects culture. It's a strange choice, but it's hardly enough to assume the game is ruined. Now, if the entire game is full of references intended for millenial man-children.. then yea, it's not great. I love Metroid; I'll suspend skepticism until there's evidence it's a game-wide issue.
https://x.com/tyrrankpx/status/1996689965283979505?s=46&t=DrQ-3Mjgm3wkXgNXiMq0kA

Is this the first time Samus has to have someone mod her weapons for her?
By Goltana101 on 2025-12-05 14:17:46
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
Dexprozius posted in the sortie thread recently that their GEO with S5 prime club doesn't even use it. They do judgment.

Investing the time into making a Stage 5 Lorg Mor and NOT using the associated WS in the primary event in the game?

By Tussell on 2025-12-05 14:12:34
I clicked on this thread expecting Somalians.
By Veydal1 on 2025-12-05 13:49:16
Asura.Toralin said: »
Veydal1 said: »
I use the following specifically for Aminon. At ML50 I don't have any WS acc issues, but might need to sneak some more accuracy in if lower in ML (prob change the Ishvara earring for a Cessance / Dignitary for example, and if still need more, Null Loop for neck slot) -

ItemSet 401368
what kind judgment numbers @ 1k tp are you seeing with NQ Aminon?

In the few cases where I WS at 1k, I've eyeballed somewhere in the high 30s. But I rarely WS at 1k due to Occult acumen. Normally WSing around the 1800+ mark, like in the 50s? I can take a look and save scoreboard next time I run on GEO.
By mysaga on 2025-12-05 13:43:17
sad, don't see Cerberus server.
By on 2025-12-05 13:41:38
By Dodik on 2025-12-05 13:37:34
Well thief is on the prime dagger is it not? Don't they compare relatively well with a dnc using the same dagger?
By . on 2025-12-05 13:28:54
Garuda.Chanti said: »
I have a bridge I can sell you that will magically cut your commute time in half and cure cancer too.

By NynJa on 2025-12-05 13:12:28
I'm trying to find the post where they say thf has to be neutered because of TH, and while I cant find it, I did find some gems.

https://forum.square-enix.com/ffxi/threads/11492-Screwed-again-Proposed-THF-job-adjustments.?p=153704&viewfull=1#post153704

Quote:
Due to the fact that normal attacks now increase the effects of Treasure Hunter, we chose to forgo the addition of Subtle Blow as a trade off.

Granted this is 14 years ago, still hilarious that the thought process is "well you can raise TH, so you dont need Subtle Blow".
By on 2025-12-05 13:10:19
By Goltana101 on 2025-12-05 12:57:56
Besides tagging for Treasure Hunter with Aeolian Edge or Gandring, you don't even proc TH in Omen Swarts. Maybe you do it for Ou on extra drop slot/hands armor. But I'm still not sure it works on bodies or accessories based on how Thorny has described in on the past. Even in dynamis, you just kill and let stuff fall. You might intentionally proc Volte bosses like I said, but that's it. Cloud Of Darkness HTBF? Idk Procing TH doesn't feel worth it anymore.
By tallica on 2025-12-05 12:39:09
Was talking about this the other day when I saw the new ring. What is TH even used on these days? Maybe Dynamis and Omen?
By Goltana101 on 2025-12-05 12:30:56
Yeah I've stated many times, and Nynja's likely correct that THF is kept "weaker" intentionally by SE because of Treasure Hunter. They're still stuck in 2010s era. And I've stated in several other posts, almost every THF job ability has the absolute worst recast times and the least useful modern game application. It's not just a couple, they're ALL bad (minutes SATA which still has a long timer). That's not by accident. I still remember an era before Nyame when THF was absolutely busted on wave3 bosses. That style of fight is no longer a thing
By Goltana101 on 2025-12-05 12:25:42
Warpy really the goat for this.
By Atrox78 on 2025-12-05 12:19:15
Cerberus.Shadowmeld said: »
I'm pretty sure, in order bis clubs for pure judgment damage are:
  1. Tishtrya R15 (Not highest damage per WS potential, but averages more damage over time due to TP bonus)

  2. Magesmasher +1 (Highest Per WS damage potential)

  3. Cath Palug hammer

  4. Idris R15 (OA2/3 gives decent boost over maxentius higher base damage)

  5. Maxentius


This is incorrect because it is missing the prime. Not that you would judgment with it.

Also, won't say doht go for bigger numbers on judgment but unless you have the worst dnc in the world in your group, idris is more then you will ever need for judegment on aminon. In most y groups the geo could just cast bubbles and aspb tp and all will be well.
By Nariont on 2025-12-05 12:17:50
-SA / TA reduced to 30s base
-TA transfers 20% of thfs current hate along with the hate provided via dmg
-Accomplice reduced to 3m recast(so 1/3 for collab/accomp) if it could target alliance members that would be great.
-Hide always works and is 3m recast
-Give the job some level of subtle blow

Whether hate control is relevant these days or not, THFs usually just not great at it to begin with, job can steal hate a good deal but it has nowhere to place it natively if it could more easily dump or transfer it'd atleast have a fairly unique niche
By Shadowmeld on 2025-12-05 11:47:19
I'm pretty sure, in order bis clubs for pure judgment damage are:
  1. Tishtrya R15 (Not highest damage per WS potential, but averages more damage over time due to TP bonus)

  2. Magesmasher +1 (Highest Per WS damage potential)

  3. Cath Palug hammer

  4. Idris R15 (OA2/3 gives decent boost over maxentius higher base damage)

  5. Maxentius

By toralin on 2025-12-05 11:45:05
Veydal1 said: »
I use the following specifically for Aminon. At ML50 I don't have any WS acc issues, but might need to sneak some more accuracy in if lower in ML (prob change the Ishvara earring for a Cessance / Dignitary for example, and if still need more, Null Loop for neck slot) -

ItemSet 401368
what kind judgment numbers @ 1k tp are you seeing with NQ Aminon?
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