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By Nariont on 2025-08-25 11:43:49
the abs-TP thing is actually much less of an issue as penance mnk TP feed is absurdly low, like single digits iirc since base h2h TP feed is already stupid low. Now when penance goes away then it's a concern but that just goes back to not attacking when penance is down.

I wouldnt call having 2 people alternating a JA that should be off CD as soon as the last one wears if i remember my timers correctly being hard to execute compared to say a DNC SP2 combo
By Goltana101 on 2025-08-25 11:43:21
On the topic of attack speed, can someone explain how Martial Arts (and gear) affects your attack speed? I'm trying to figure out if it is practical to carry around additional pieces of Martial Arts gear, for instances where I only have Haste 1 or 2 (solo Limbus with 3-trust limit or other random unbuffed scenarios). A simple "not worth it" is sufficient too, but I am trying to understand the formula involved.

Like I noticed on the "Attack Speed" wiki page, it shows a Dual Wield Cheat Sheet, but there is no version of this for Martial Arts. Is it functionally the same thing?

For example, 1200 JP MNK has 270 delay. With Verethragna (+81) that is 351 delay. How much Martial Arts in gear would I need with say Haste 1 or Haste 2 to reach the attack speed cap, or is it even possible (I see there is a minimum Martial Arts delay of 96)? I'm not even sure there's enough gear to make this worth it. Probably not, but curious from a math perspective (Mache +1, Empy+3 body is a given).
By Dodik on 2025-08-25 11:41:09
Martel can clarify, but I just took as it as "the haste buff slot is taken by the slow aura effect".
By Nariont on 2025-08-25 11:39:56
K123 said: »
Martel believes otherwise and it appears un"proven" to a SimonSes aaaaacktuualllly level

Is he not agreeing that's how it works right here?

Ragnarok.Martel said: »
Asura.Vyre said: »
It's just a curiosity of mine, because I've still heard of LSes whipping out GEO/Indi Haste for stuff like Bastok Dyna D Wave 2 slow aura boss, and things like it.
A slow aura, etc is going to overwrite and prevent you from using the regular haste slot. Which often means that you aren't just eating slow, but you're no longer capping magic haste.

What using other haste sources is doing here is letting you recap magic haste even without the normal haste buff slot. You're still eating the slow penalty, but at least you're not slowed and at uncapped magic haste.
By Dodik on 2025-08-25 11:39:13
I meant in terms of execution, play style, co-ordination and knowing when to back off.

Yeah, mnk is a simple job.

But you guys are co-ordinating chi-blasts, need to monitor tp return from absorbs on when to back off, alternating WSs to not wall each other and so forth.

It's a lot going on, and as soon as you have co-ordination that needs some practice so it's not something I expect a pickup group to be able to do first try.
By Nariont on 2025-08-25 11:38:33
Things like job haste from samba/hasso/LR also apply as far as overpowering a slow aura, only thing that's not known i think is just how much slow can be placed on a player. But no mob does more than i think 50% slow, i think in the case of kei his slow spikes are 30%
By Dildonunchucks on 2025-08-25 11:37:24
Put em up
That's funny
By on 2025-08-25 11:36:59
By Brimstone on 2025-08-25 11:26:59
It seems to only be tracking Rem's stored at Monisette and not those in my inventory.
By NynJa on 2025-08-25 11:19:31
K123 said: »
Does 3x March not counter slow aura on Kei?
So I'm not the only one confused by this entire topic, because that was my strat for Kei too: just overcap magic haste to annul the slow aura.
By Nariont on 2025-08-25 11:19:09
Dodik said: »
Fun to watch, but actually doing it is beyond most monks or smns.

Donno about smn but id imagine it'd be pretty simple for 2x mnk, just doing the old melee style unless im mistaken, just with rotating h2h WS'

Penance down, turn around
Penance up, put em up
By Carbuncle.Nynja on 2025-08-25 11:18:02
Afania said: »
asked AI
By Nariont on 2025-08-25 11:17:05
If it didnt we woulnt have been doing overhaste with marches/indi haste. Haste and slow in all their forms iirc apply at the same time, just gotta subtract slow from your total haste to see where you're at as far as delay reductions go
By on 2025-08-25 10:59:02
By Jinxs on 2025-08-25 10:44:05
Pairing this with itemizer and a trade addon that could handle multiple items would be so cool
By Khajit on 2025-08-25 10:30:06
Quetzalcoatl
NE4
Near exit.
By Ragnarok.Zeig on 2025-08-25 10:03:07
Afania said: »
I am pretty sure you misunderstood my point back then. My opinion on literature in our society has always been the same, and I was a huge fan of Blade Runner movie x2 and PKD for the same reason wayyyyyyyyyyy before 2023. So the timing isn't even correct if I changed my opinion about them in the past 2 years.
No, I know you were at least familiar with Blade Runner (not sure about being a big fan) because you specifically brought it up (and 1984) in that exact conversation about esteemed scientist-thinker-novelist predictions & social commentary, but I won't get into specifics here. The discussion is still there for you to look at again if you want.

Afania said: »
my personal political stance being different from PKD doesn't affect how I appreciate literature at all
I agree with you on this, but this was not the topic.

Afania said: »
So I got bored and asked AI if capitalism and mega corporation in fictions are portrayed in a realistic way, and AI said something similar to "yes and no" then listed a bunch of similarities and differences between rl and fictions.
"it's not black and white" was my position on the topic back then :)
By meylee on 2025-08-25 09:56:28
im dumb and just didnt read that far it seems.
By Ragnarok.Zeig on 2025-08-25 09:46:35
Going back from boxing practice with my 6 y/o nephew
He takes a look at my kindle and opens it:
-"Does this thing not have dark mode in it?"
-"It does have 'night mode' which is kinda similar"
-"Then why isn't it on?"
-"You see, I do have it on everywhere else (PC, mobile etc)" then I talked about nightmode a bit.

My little man is going elitist on me at 6 year. I'm proud of him. Can't imagine what he's gonna call me out for regarding my tech usage when we're both 10 years older.
By . on 2025-08-25 09:08:33
Afania said: »
I got bored and asked AI if capitalism and mega corporation in fictions are portrayed in a realistic way

Said the “workaholic”
By Llewelyn on 2025-08-25 09:02:00
Dildonunchucks said: »
Hey Sterk
When you cleared hard mode
Was the setup BRD/COR/GEO/MNK/RDM/WHM?
THF instead of WHM. Only reason being THF is literally that person's only geared 99 job. Once they finished their prime we replaced them with our 2nd MNK we're now running with.
By Dodik on 2025-08-25 08:58:36
The puppet can survive. I don't see it doing enough damage though at higher Vs.
By Jinxs on 2025-08-25 08:57:21
Someone told me if I wanna solo rp arebati I should level up pup
Is this true?

Whats the equipment for this task?

And is there a good skillup guide for pup out there?
By Dildonunchucks on 2025-08-25 08:51:24
Hey Sterk
When you cleared hard mode
Was the setup BRD/COR/GEO/MNK/RDM/WHM?
By Tarage on 2025-08-25 08:47:50
I see you list things like MEVA on Duban at rank 2 but I don't understand where that comes from. The rank 2 shield only has defense and shield skill on it. Are the other stats hidden?
By Brimstone on 2025-08-25 08:24:52
SimonSes said: »
Fenrir.Brimstonefox said: »
Simon gets the point.

If we just assume 40m for +2 and 4m for +1 it’s roughly 880m for a full set of +2 vs 88m for a full set of +1s, many of the +1s are bis for 1 or more stats (except for the +2) or offer some unique bonus/stat. I personally make about 40m a month without focusing on Gil, spending almost 2 years to upgrade 22 jobs for 1 slot is not appealing.

Obviously if you don’t play a job a ton, dumping the Gil is probably not worth it. Even though some like rdm give solid boosts to multiple stats. Although that varies per person.

Tier lists are ok but it’s an indirect answer to the question, I guess if you play all jobs equally which 3-7 would you +2 ? Of course reasons help

RDM. Enfeebling effect +3 and duration +5% are really good stats, which maximize strong enfeebling effect casted with Saboteur to last as long as possible. Enhancing duration is nice QoL and MND, int and macc are nice bonuses.

MNK. Kick attack rate +5% and kick damage +5 are very good for TP, especially with 2% more pdl. Kick damage and 2% more pdl are great for Tornado and Dragon kick, which are bread and butter for most fights with Godhands and Footwork up.

DRG. -5% DT for the wyvern is really nice, then additional attack, pdl and STR are grest for WSs. But if you don't play DRG in tougher content, then it might not be that important.

BRD. 1%QA and 1stp might look small, but it's quite a lot. Additional pdl on already best dagger WS neck is more important than for some other jobs having access to much more pdl options.

NIN. 5 daken, 2 stp is really good for tp and if you have prime katana its a must have, because of how perfect it is for Zesho Meppo. If you don't I would still +2 it.

Thank you for that (i already have DRG and NIN) I'll probably do MNK and RDM eventually (I don't play either much though), I don't play BRD much either and when i do I'm not DDing, so that's probably a pass for me...
By Taint on 2025-08-25 08:23:46
Stage2 also has the Slowly devours your soul: -1hp and -1mp per tic. Its really good for most PLD content since you can't be slept and with majesty can wake the rest of the party as needed.

Aegis handles most of PLDs endgame and Stage2 Duban handles the rest.

I do use Srivatsa for kiting in Sortie and casting majesty protect.
By Taint on 2025-08-25 08:23:46
By Byrthnoth on 2025-08-25 07:55:41
Server: Lakshmi
Floor: NE floor 3
Approximate Location: Somewhere towards the middle
By SimonSes on 2025-08-25 07:17:41
He is talking about WS damage not dps.
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