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By Tarage on 2025-04-23 16:34:41 |
Did people forget the 2000s and 2010s where nearly EVERY protagonist was a white shaved head dude bro?  Oh, god, a protagonist who is... let's see here, white and male. You sure showed me, that's totally different from the majority of things I described previously. You sure got me. |
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By K123 on 2025-04-23 16:34:27 |
It's like saying you don't want to see any darkies on TV, or that any reference to non Christian media forbidden. Describes millions of Americans. Why, yes, I am saying that being racist is bad, and that people who are racist are bad. Is this seriously an argument we're having? I'm saying there are millions of Americans that don't want to see non-white people or other religious information in the media. |
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By Godfry on 2025-04-23 16:33:36 |
So a bigot. Understood. Would you mind elaborating on what parts you consider to be a "cesspool" so we can have you go fully mask off?
Did you consult Fauci on this? Why are you asking people to take their masks off? |
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By K123 on 2025-04-23 16:33:25 |
Did people forget the 2000s and 2010s where nearly EVERY protagonist was a white shaved head dude bro? |
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By Tarage on 2025-04-23 16:32:57 |
It's like saying you don't want to see any darkies on TV, or that any reference to non Christian media forbidden. Describes millions of Americans. Why, yes, I am saying that being racist is bad, and that people who are racist are bad. Is this seriously an argument we're having? |
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By Afania on 2025-04-23 16:32:38 |
Also the hell is wrong with taking sides on this issue?
No, it's not wrong. I don't have specific preference on type A/B/Male/Female in character creation but I am not against people having a preference due to their ideology. I am only against political spams on game forums. |
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By Tarage on 2025-04-23 16:32:12 |
Also the hell is wrong with taking sides on this issue? One side is "Hey we should try to include people who are normally excluded and have no representation in media, as shifting it from 100% / 0% to something more like 80% / 20% isn't going to harm those who are currently 100% because they're still the main characters in a majority of media. The other side are biggoted *** who can't comprehend that all media shouldn't specifically reference them and their cultural experiences. It's like saying you don't want to see any darkies on TV, or that any reference to non Christian media forbidden. It's okay for you not to see yourself in every single character dipshit.
ICYMI:
I have a platinum subscription to the "give them absolutely no *** quarter" ideology, because thats what led us to the cesspool we are in. So a bigot. Understood. Would you mind elaborating on what parts you consider to be a "cesspool" so we can have you go fully mask off? |
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By K123 on 2025-04-23 16:31:56 |
It's like saying you don't want to see any darkies on TV, or that any reference to non Christian media forbidden. Describes millions of Americans. |
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By Tarage on 2025-04-23 16:31:21 |
Just because a company will try to use inclusion to hide flaws in a game
Lmao.. typical comment of a dude who admits he still wears masks in public to save granny. Point to where I said that. Also I love how you conveniently ignored the request to explain how it harms you in any way to wear a mask when around people who can get sick easily.
Also also holy ***I can't believe you think "heh heh *** old people they should die so I am not slightly uncomfortable" is the dunk you went with. |
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By Godfry on 2025-04-23 16:31:11 |
There's at least a strong correlation between inclusion and use of hideous characters/preachy storylines. If that premise can't be accepted, there's not really any chance of consensus because the opponent is arguing in bad faith.
Masterclass of a comment. |
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By NynJa on 2025-04-23 16:29:42 |
Also the hell is wrong with taking sides on this issue? One side is "Hey we should try to include people who are normally excluded and have no representation in media, as shifting it from 100% / 0% to something more like 80% / 20% isn't going to harm those who are currently 100% because they're still the main characters in a majority of media. The other side are biggoted *** who can't comprehend that all media shouldn't specifically reference them and their cultural experiences. It's like saying you don't want to see any darkies on TV, or that any reference to non Christian media forbidden. It's okay for you not to see yourself in every single character dipshit.
ICYMI:
I have a platinum subscription to the "give them absolutely no *** quarter" ideology, because thats what led us to the cesspool we are in. |
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By Tarage on 2025-04-23 16:29:41 |
There's at least a strong correlation between inclusion and use of hideous characters/preachy storylines. If that premise can't be accepted, there's not really any chance of consensus because the opponent is arguing in bad faith. Sure, but that does not mean that the inclusion of "hideous characters" means that the storyline is going to be preachy. For starters, the use of "hideous characters" is already arguing from a bad place, because you're implying that anyone who doesn't look like the cookie cutter generic white shaved head dude is bad. If that's actually your argument, then I really don't know what else to say to you other than "Get *** bigot". Did people forget the 2000s and 2010s where nearly EVERY protagonist was a white shaved head dude bro? God forbid they look like anything else am I right? |
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By Godfry on 2025-04-23 16:29:07 |
Just because a company will try to use inclusion to hide flaws in a game
Lmao.. typical comment of a dude who admits he still wears masks in public to save granny. |
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By Rairin on 2025-04-23 16:26:28 |
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There's at least a strong correlation between inclusion and use of hideous characters/preachy storylines. If that premise can't be accepted, there's not really any chance of consensus because the opponent is arguing in bad faith.
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By Negan on 2025-04-23 16:20:20 |
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It's anime/mangas fault. and hip hop.
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By Tarage on 2025-04-23 16:18:40 |
Your quote on page 54 fails to separate the fact, THE UNDENIABLE FACT, that the people who want type A/B in their character creation
Right, so some people wants type A/B, so they have a preference on this ideology.
Some people want to change it back to male/female, they also have a preference on this ideology.
I belongs to neither side because I don't care about those, so I don't have a preference on this ideology
Not sure how is this so hard to see that you need 81 pages.... Heres a Venn diagram showcasing the subset of people in the gaming industry who want the type A/B in their games and who want ugly masc looking women with shitty stories:
But its one circle you say? Yes, the Venn diagram overlaps perfectly. Let me try another one:
hey heyyyyy I can't begin to explain how wrong this is. Shitty stories and base level inclusion for non-binary people are two very unrelated things. Plenty of games have shitty stories that don't have any sort of inclusional language at all. Plenty of games with inclusion have great stories. Just because a company will try to use inclusion to hide flaws in a game doesn't make it a 1 to 1 overlap. Stop being a disingenuous ***. |
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By NynJa on 2025-04-23 16:15:14 |
Your quote on page 54 fails to separate the fact, THE UNDENIABLE FACT, that the people who want type A/B in their character creation
Right, so some people wants type A/B, so they have a preference on this ideology.
Some people want to change it back to male/female, they also have a preference on this ideology.
I belongs to neither side because I don't care about those, so I don't have a preference on this ideology
Not sure how is this so hard to see that you need 81 pages.... Heres a Venn diagram showcasing the subset of people in the gaming industry who want the type A/B in their games and who want ugly masc looking women with shitty stories:
But its one circle you say? Yes, the Venn diagram overlaps perfectly. Let me try another one:
hey heyyyyy |
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By Tarage on 2025-04-23 16:14:56 |
Ah, so the slippery slope fallacy to deny an entire subset of people any inclusion what so ever. What a *** idiot.
Welcome to dealing with godfry. See I was trying to give him the benefit of the doubt but if you're going to stamp your feet and go "If we give them any sort of inclusion they're going to go into the schools and make all the kids have forced gender reassignment surgery" it's kinda hard to not think of you as a mental midget. |
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Ah, so the slippery slope fallacy to deny an entire subset of people any inclusion what so ever. What a *** idiot.
Welcome to dealing with godfry. |
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By Tarage on 2025-04-23 16:09:53 |
Alright Godfry, for the sake of argument, what personally offends you about things not using male/female? What part of changing this to Type A/B upsets you? You may have already said, but I don't feel like dredging back through 20 pages to find it.
Godfry already said it actually:
I fully understand your point, and it's a very valid one. I just feel like you downplay the cultural impact of them pushing the agenda since the game will be played by millions of people.
If this was just an innocent take of someone who feels differently about the subject, I'd be willing to tolerate it. But knowing how far they went with this bs (blocker for kids, trans reading time, men in women sports etc) I'd rather just kill it in its roots by not tolerating it at all.
I am not against this take btw, even though I find it a little extreme. But if people gonna piss off for me saying that's a preference in cultural war then you need chill a little. Ah, so the slippery slope fallacy to deny an entire subset of people any inclusion what so ever. What a *** idiot. |
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By Kaffy on 2025-04-23 16:00:12 |
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By Tarage on 2025-04-23 15:56:43 |
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Here's a better solution: You are smart enough to know what you think is male and female, and are able to use your eyes to pick a body type that matches how you see yourself. Just ignore whatever label it has and stop getting upset that a game might not exclusively cater to you specifically.
I swear the people who whine about this stuff are the same people who will throw a tantrum about wearing a mask. A trivial inconvenience to help other people is a crime against humanity I guess.
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By Afania on 2025-04-23 15:54:55 |
Some people want to change it back to male/female, they also have a preference in this ideology.
I refuse to believe that you are this stupid. I rather keep thinking that you are just flat out dishonest.
What is so dishonest about it? |
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By Tarage on 2025-04-23 15:53:26 |
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Alright Godfry, for the sake of argument, what personally offends you about things not using male/female? What part of changing this to Type A/B upsets you? You may have already said, but I don't feel like dredging back through 20 pages to find it.
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By Godfry on 2025-04-23 15:49:35 |
Some people want to change it back to male/female, they also have a preference in this ideology.
I refuse to believe that you are this stupid. I rather keep thinking that you are just flat out dishonest. |
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By . on 2025-04-23 15:49:09 |
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I started watching the first series and forgot about it. Obi Wan series was amazing, I doubt I will like anything else more.
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By . on 2025-04-23 15:44:21 |
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Just watched the first three episodes of Andor Season 2, great show. The best Star Wars content in over a decade. I don't really understand why Gilroy doesn't like alien races in Star Wars...but I can accept it for this great of a story.
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By Kaffy on 2025-04-23 15:42:29 |
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By K123 on 2025-04-23 15:34:19 |
I'm not going to waste the time. Happy to hear about how NN are "amazing" but LLM (a form of NN) are useless though.
Let's not get another thread ruined where everyone says I'm wrong then literally every tech leader and IT expert in the world comes out saying exactly everything I was saying a few months later. Right, well, thanks for admitting you don't actually have an argument, don't understand what you are arguing about, and will use a single mistake to go "I WIN U LOSE" and run away like a 5 year old. At least you saved both of us, and whoever reads this, the time that would have been wasted at your nonsensical flailing. Tell me more about amazing NN and useless NN LLMs How many times do I need to say "I misspoke" before you understand that? You really are a 5 year old. Is that all you can say? GPT 2 is smarter than you. Jog on Mr. "I write a bit of code so think I'm an expert in human and machine logic and reasoning". I thought you were done. Christ you're retarded. Bravo. |
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By NynJa on 2025-04-23 15:33:01 |
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Your quote on page 54 fails to separate the fact, THE UNDENIABLE FACT, that the people who want type A/B in their character creation are the same people who want shitty art and a horrible story in their game.
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