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By . on 2025-05-22 15:46:26 |
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To be fair, the minority here on the forums, myself included, do not represent the entire XI fan base, small or large as it is.
More passionate, for one. Way way higher on the spectrum compared to the average player.
I wouldn't give the heated discussions much clout, that's just.. Thursday.
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By . on 2025-05-22 15:45:00 |
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The game was literally about to be shut down entirely, I don't think enough people appreciate that Fujito really did do something to convince them otherwise. Whatever he did seems to have stuck for the time being.
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By Anza on 2025-05-22 15:41:20 |
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Oh for sure, in your case the shield totally makes sense. And for PLD in general, pretty damn good! A great pick too.
I particularly called out RDM and BST due to the somewhat lesser impact on lengthening their JA durations. Still certainly worth using if you have it, just doesn't fundamentally change anything. "Hey RDM, remember that Saboteur you enjoy using? Well, this shield lets you get the exact same thing, but for 15 extra seconds."
Hey, bonus is bonus so that's nice. But it's obviously not a fundamental change the way it would be if the shield, oh IDK, made RDM's Haste II into Hastega II.
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Quote: Have you beaten Kalunga V25 with your DNC setup? (Have you beaten Kalunga V25 at all?). Honest question. Quote: The only hard locked jobs for Kalunga are BRD, COR and PLD and nothing else. We did it easily with BRD COR PLD DRK RUN BLU and we had plenty of time left.
He already mentioned he cleared Kalunga with an off meta comp. |
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By Ragnarok. Zeig on 2025-05-22 15:33:04 |
Most mmorpgs are around 20 years old, this is not abnormal.
FFXI is not on maintenance mode anymore, Fujito specially said this. People really don't know what the world maintenance means I guess.
They are not ultimate weapons, they are very fun toys.
Making people happy on an anniversary is a good thing, and this years was massively successful cause it peaked interest.
People on XIAH are mostly serious endgame players, and it makes them happy to argue about stuff like this.
It's not negative, people are having fun. Even if having fun is arguing about the tier of the toys.
This is like wow adding a new raid, and going to a serious endgame discord and asking why people are arguing about a strategy instead of just having fun. Other MMOs are irrelevant here. FFXI is old and lost most of its players, and hasn't been getting frequent worthwhile updates. That's the point.
Not on maintenance mode anymore.. meaning it was? For how long? And has Fujito's statement been reflected on actual additions to the game?
And to say on one hand that these weapons are "just fun toys" (downplaying them) while at the same time justifying all the endless arguing (& name-calling) over them with being "serious endgame players" isn't making sense. There is fun in having discussions and then there is that.
And that's why the WoW example isn't relevant. |
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By Godfry on 2025-05-22 15:22:41 |
Why would you use dagger in main hand when you can use Onion Sword and do damage? You don't need dagger at all, just single wield Onion.
If this is still regarding Kalunga,that fight isn't even about the DPS check. BLUs Mighty Guard and Geo's Barrier is what made the fight 10x easier than other set ups.
In what setup though?
With PLD holding adds and Run tanking Kalunga and PLD, BLU and DNC having access to single and aoe cures, I can't see how survivability would be a problem at all.
Have you beaten Kalunga V25 with your DNC setup? (Have you beaten Kalunga V25 at all?). Honest question. |
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Higher accuracy to land steps
Hitting 0 does not feed tp
Your accuracy with standard buffs and Onion is like 300-400 above the required cap for capped hit rate.
If you are concerned about feeding TP it would be better to offhand gleti and main hand Onion and feed 0 tp with gelti and hit with Onion with 65% subtle blow. |
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By Dodik on 2025-05-22 15:15:53 |
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None of the primes are easy to get. Most time consuming rema process is primes. Think mythic at 75 cap kind of time consuming.
Easiest to get is bonanza. Literally free even if you're unsubbed.
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By K123 on 2025-05-22 15:13:42 |
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Higher accuracy to land steps
Hitting 0 does not feed tp
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By Dodik on 2025-05-22 15:11:27 |
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Been posted to death. They're both fun as OH weapons. Main hand naegling savage wins 100% of the time with half decent non-trust buffs.
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By Ragnarok. Zeig on 2025-05-22 15:11:23 |
Welp I haven't logged into FFXI for like....3 years? Didn't log in during past free campaign either.
This time I did logged in, got my boots +1 and the weapon. I honestly wanted boot +1 more than the weapon because free 3k TP for parse competition. But I picked up the weapon since it's free anyways. Then I immediately logged off.
It is kinda nostalgia to travel to different locations for boots KI for the +1, but nostalgia is not strong enough to make me resub unfortunately.
I made my choice on the weapon immediately, I thought it's an easy choice without even need an internet argument. Not because the weapon is game changing in the hardest endgame or something, but because COR only has 2 options and one of the is noticably worse(function wise) than another lol.
Maybe one day I'll finally resub and do melee only self light with melee buffs since it has been my FFXI dream for years. Well, congrats on the mysterious OP +1 boots.
It's been over 11 years for me. Only subbed for a month or two in 2016 to finish RoV, and moved to Bahamut in 2019 (not sure if I had to pay for an active sub). Other than that, I logged in during a few fre periods to do random nostalgic stuff, and work slowly on my DRK weapons & AFs.
Had a few friends actively playing last year but I couldn't be bothered to join them tbh (surprisingly it was private servers that drove them to retail after a longer hiatus than mine, go figure) |
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Why would you use dagger in main hand when you can use Onion Sword and do damage? You don't need dagger at all, just single wield Onion.
If this is still regarding Kalunga,that fight isn't even about the DPS check. BLUs Mighty Guard and Geo's Barrier is what made the fight 10x easier than other set ups.
In what setup though?
With PLD holding adds and Run tanking Kalunga and PLD, BLU and DNC having access to single and aoe cures, I can't see how survivability would be a problem at all. |
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By . on 2025-05-22 15:00:54 |
It's 2025 in a 23 y/o game on maintennace mode. The devs decide to give everyone a free ultimate weapon as a nice gesture to enjoy whatever is left of their stay.
What do people do? They get busy aruging over which weapon is worth picking & trashing others' choices. Because what's FFXI without arguing over every little detail in the endless quest of absolute theoritical efficiency!
Same old discussions since VW days lol
But this is people talking video games on the internet, what else to expect?
Most mmorpgs are around 20 years old, this is not abnormal.
FFXI is not on maintenance mode anymore, Fujito specially said this. People really don't know what the world maintenance means I guess.
They are not ultimate weapons, they are very fun toys.
Making people happy on an anniversary is a good thing, and this years was massively successful cause it peaked interest.
People on XIAH are mostly serious endgame players, and it makes them happy to argue about stuff like this.
It's not negative, people are having fun. Even if having fun is arguing about the tier of the toys.
This is like wow adding a new raid, and going to a serious endgame discord and asking why people are arguing about a strategy instead of just having fun. |
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By . on 2025-05-22 14:57:30 |
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Ow noo
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By Godfry on 2025-05-22 14:54:19 |
DNC could do 0 damage and BRD COR and BLU with box step and haste Samba would still do enough dps to overall beat WAR BLU COR and BRD without box step and haste samba.
SimonSes, show me images of the Founding Fathers.
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By Taint on 2025-05-22 14:47:05 |
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If this is still regarding Kalunga,that fight isn't even about the DPS check. BLUs Mighty Guard and Geo's Barrier is what made the fight 10x easier than other set ups.
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By Godfry on 2025-05-22 14:32:20 |
I mean, I think it's a hell of a lot more meaningful than extra duration on Saboteur or Killer Instinct, and people are acting like the shield is amazing for those reasons.
Definitely a solid pick, and opens up some brand new opportunities for NIN.
I like Ninja, but I picked the shield because I'm on PLD 99% of the time, and even if there are content where we would bring Ninja, other static member would likely take on the role. So shield is a better choice for me.
I also agree with you. This Katana is likely the one pick that actually changes things. |
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By Anza on 2025-05-22 14:30:05 |
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I mean, I think it's a hell of a lot more meaningful than extra duration on Saboteur or Killer Instinct, and people are acting like the shield is amazing for those reasons.
Definitely a solid pick, and opens up some brand new opportunities for NIN.
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The lua I'm using for BRD has a section for Instrument for each song type. Is it possible to make a toggle that takes that into account and allows me to toggle between Gjallarhorn for each song type and Miracle Cheer? i.e: If it's a short fight, I hit the toggle, and get Ghorn buffs, if it's longer (like Ody C), I hit the toggle and get Miracle instead of Ghorn?
Anything is possible, but without seeing your lua and its specifics, hard to advise: if you post it here maybe we can help. Do you know who's lua you are using? Basically you will want to find the logic, add a keybind, and implement an override of the default logic.
I'm using the Arislan BRD one (Original: Motenten / Modified: Arislan). I think I can just share via PasteBin? https://pastebin.com/JJTDEtbz
I figured it would be adding a keybind (I just look at how the others are implemented, copy that but change what I need) but I'm not sure if that would do it. |
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By Godfry on 2025-05-22 14:25:49 |
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Three friends of mine that have gotten the Katana are having an absolute blast with it.
If you like Ninja, Katana will make you like it even more. It's a solid pick!
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By Carbuncle. Nynja on 2025-05-22 14:23:47 |
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The three are:
1-Panta
2-Fer
3-Nando
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By . on 2025-05-22 14:21:57 |
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Generally its only two or three users that generate the most hate here.
Overall, I dont feel like FFXI nerds are any more toxic than anything outside.
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By Dodik on 2025-05-22 14:12:25 |
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Yes, I meant To for F. You're right Chi should work on E also.
Can only have one threnody on though, so everyone else would have to be physical if Nin is doing hybrids.
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Thinking about Hybrids kinda makes me wonder if there'd be any merit to bring SAM and NIN to have them do Blue procs with hybrid WSes and skillchains. Prolly not, but heh.
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I've never brought my ninja to sortie and probably wont soon but I would be interested to see if chi to teki could reach their full potential at least on the first floor.
Nin doesn't have light side hybrid WS to use and the two basement bosses where hybrids can work are both weak to fire light or wind.
You don't want a water hybrid on E for obvious reasons. G is weak to light and fire.
Chi might work on F, never tried it. But that's 1/4. H switches elements, usually it's all physical on him to avoid accidental heals. E's weakest to Earth. Blade Chi works for that. F would have to be Thunder hands for Chi, I think. But you could use Blade: To for F, since that's Ice and will work during either hand set. |
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By Godfry on 2025-05-22 14:03:23 |
DNC could do 0 damage and BRD COR and BLU with box step and haste Samba would still do enough dps to overall beat WAR BLU COR and BRD without box step and haste samba.
lol... |
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I'm pretty sure there is a paper argument for DNC single-wielding Onion Sword being better than BLU with Tizona Thibron and all the useful BLU spells.
It's like what I said, all Bonanza weapon are toys. The arguments around their usefulness are FFXI AH getting high on copium.
DNC could do 0 damage and BRD COR and BLU with box step and haste Samba would still do enough dps to overall beat WAR BLU COR and BRD without box step and haste samba. |
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By Godfry on 2025-05-22 13:52:47 |
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I'm pretty sure there is a paper argument for DNC single-wielding Onion Sword being better than BLU with Tizona Thibron and all the useful BLU spells.
It's like what I said, all Bonanza weapon are toys. The arguments around their usefulness are FFXI AH getting high on copium.
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You got any more of them id's???
Maybe Unity Chat A thru F? HMMM? |
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By Rairin on 2025-05-22 13:48:10 |
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Not just win two more times, but use both victories to have a slightly better damage output in 1 fight instead of getting an air knife to offhand or something for another job
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