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what in the jesus syphilis *** is going on here
We were talking about Null gear, Frazzle III and Distract III, and then suddenly, we were here.
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By Rairin on 2025-04-29 15:48:42
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Issue isn't finding a woodworker who can do the recipe, it's that nobody uses the strange apparatuses to get rune arrows in the first place. Even if the HQ gives more arrows, you're likely to need over 100 rune arrows to make 12 stacks worth.
That's like 8 months of catching every sale on Asura. Over 10 years on Ragnarok.
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Changes have been made to Sandbox before pushed to main pages. I do apologize for pushing content to the main pages too fast.
Please put your sandboxes on your userpage, or subpages of your userpage, rather than in the main namespace. I have not moved them yet because I want to give you the benefit of the doubt regarding your intention to contribute to the wiki. I have no intention of pushing people away who actually want to contribute, but we really can't have gear tables on individual spell pages. Maintaining the wiki is hard enough without perishable and/or editorial content.
Please feel free to add gear sets to either the spells' talk pages, or a dedicated Guide page. We have those for this specific purpose.
As for the tables you made for showing the potency of the spells, those are totally fine, but please make sure they are compatible with dark mode--this can generally be accomplished by utilizing the various CSS classes we've already defined for tables; I've been working on making them all dark mode compatible slowly over the last 2 years or so.
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So, isn't the Wild Card range a 9,9 radius around the player using it?
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what in the jesus syphilis *** is going on here
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By Godfry on 2025-04-29 15:05:03
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The pages were protected because Spicyryan, a globalist who doesn't even play the game anymore, reverted back the changes without even engaging with the community. I reverted it back because people have been visiting it to judge if they liked it or not.
Hello friend,
Foxfire is right on all accounts, the info you were putting on that page does not belong there. Furthermore, proper etiquette is to make any content draft under your personal userpage, and only move it to mainspace pages once it's reasonably complete - this is to avoid polluting namespace pages with a gazillion tiny edits. Basically, do the chaotic work in an userpage, then copy over to mainspace page once you're done.
Please come to the bgwiki discord if you want more advice, guidance, or istructions on how to proceed, from the bgwiki team themselves.
EDIT: it also feels this is totally and royally off topic in this topic. Wasn't this about Null gear?
Hello there fellow Female (maybe?) Wizard.
Changes have been made to Sandbox before pushed to main pages. I do apologize for pushing content to the main pages too fast.
As a member of the Wizardry, I do like to ask for the higher Echelon to be honest about their conduct. I had direct permission from King Byrth to update the pages. Since then, I have been directly engaged with current active FFXI players (not the ones who quit) trying to incorporate their opinion and streamline how information is distributed in order to have consistency across pages. I'd like to see proof that Positron and SpicyRyan consulted anybody before reverting and locking the pages.
Also, I'd like to know if SpicyRyan and Positron can singlehandedly reverse other Wizard's effort without consulting the community, while also bypassing a King decree. If that's the case, I suggest we please update the banner:
Lastly, I have been told by The King himself to update the pages. Was he bluffing? God forbid, I hope he was not joking. I hope he was serious when he said that "wikis should reflect the opinions of those who invest the time in editing them". Please read bellow the full King's Decree:
May the True King Marcus Byrthus Aurelius return and set us free once again!
Make BG-Wiki Free Again (MBGWFA) - MBUHGEEOOFA!
(Posted from Godfry on his TruthSocial account.)
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By Bahamut. Negan on 2025-04-29 14:11:44
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By Dodik on 2025-04-29 13:39:00
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Yeah, no idea. Don't remember much of 2003.
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No, I understand that. What I'm asking is: "has it always been an EX Cure/Stone/Dia since launch or was that changed at some point?" I want to say maybe it was not originally, because I have vague recollections of selling them on mules back in Bush Jr. days.
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By Dodik on 2025-04-29 13:30:27
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Oh boy, here we go again.
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By Godfry on 2025-04-29 13:26:58
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And it's back to showing the Dia 1 description on the Dia III page.
Unrelated, but has it always been an EX version of the Dia scroll for starting RDM? And is/was the same true for WHM and BLM?
I honestly don't remember whether it was EX back when I originally bought the game 22 years ago.
Yeah, I fixed it and Spicyryan broke it, and now they broke it again.
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The pages were protected because there was a constant back and forth on editing without at least trying to reach out to anyone on the wiki about styling and information overlap.
The pages were protected because Spicyryan, a globalist who doesn't even play the game anymore, reverted back the changes without even engaging with the community. I reverted it back because people have been visiting it to judge if they liked it or not.
I didn't know the opinion of a few people on FF11 was enough to dictate how information should be presented to the broader community, which is why I am personally engaging with them and asking for feedback and documenting it.
Now the dia pages are not even consistent anymore because people who reverted it back didn't even care to match the content on the three pages.
Who gets to decide if the examples of gearsets should not go to the spell page, even if fully collapsed?
Though I liked the idea of moving them to the discussion page. But before I put anymore effort into this I'd like to know if BG-Wiki is open to the community, or just the same old UFWC members whose life meaning is to collect likes from the fellow FF11 Elitist Wizards.
Lastly, I thought King Byrth meant it when he said that he favors those who will put their time into maintaining the pages. Maybe I am wrong.
Make BG-Wiki Free Again (MBGWFA) - MBUHGEEOOFA!
(Posted from Godfry on his TruthSocial account.)
The irony of you calling everyone else names while solely dictating what YOU think the Dia page should look like. Wild.
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And it's back to showing the Dia 1 description on the Dia III page.
Unrelated, but has it always been an EX version of the Dia scroll for starting RDM? And is/was the same true for WHM and BLM?
I honestly don't remember whether it was EX back when I originally bought the game 22 years ago.
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Hi.
I can't form a proper response because I'm typing this quickly on my phone at work, but generally speaking we don't want content-specific details or job sets on spell (or main) pages. That's not what they're for. If you'd like to include the knowledge for the sake of a certain piece of content or as a guide for a role, then we would advise you to create a guide that reflects said info. Otherwise I'd suggest including it in the discussion tab of a given spell page, since that's what discussion pages are for, right?
The pages were protected because there was a constant back and forth on editing without at least trying to reach out to anyone on the wiki about styling and information overlap.
Anyway, I have to get back to other matters so I'll try to check in later if nobody else does.
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By Shiva. Thorny on 2025-04-29 12:45:32
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Just your brain trying to talk you into it or out of the guilt of it.
Participating in currency or stock trading isn't something to feel guilty about. Every person who loses money so your investment can gain money was initially invested on the premise they would gain at your loss. Unless you're treating it like gambling and risking money you can't afford to risk behind your family's back, no guilt needed.
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By . on 2025-04-29 12:36:45
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In the US, maybe. Legal throughout EU.
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By Garuda. Chanti on 2025-04-29 12:35:05
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Most stock trading companies forbid the use of the word "betting" to describe what they do. In theory there is some algorithm that decides when and how much to trade, not a human saying I bet this stock does this. And besides, gambling is a sin.
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By Asura. Eiryl on 2025-04-29 12:34:32
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It's all fake. None better or worse than the other. Just your brain trying to talk you into it or out of the guilt of it.
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By Garuda. Chanti on 2025-04-29 12:32:44
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That's how the stock market works too. Buy good news sell bad news, do nothing, make money. Yeah i get that but somehow it feels even weirder when your betting on the value of actual currency over a companies performance or the price of oranges tomorrow. Seeing as how most of the world's currency is backed by nothing save promises it might help to look at currency as a commodity.
I personally think digital currencies are far weirder than currency trading.
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By . on 2025-04-29 12:28:04
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Most stock trading companies forbid the use of the word "betting" to describe what they do. In theory there is some algorithm that decides when and how much to trade, not a human saying I bet this stock does this.
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By Fenrir. Niflheim on 2025-04-29 11:33:56
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That's how the stock market works too. Buy good news sell bad news, do nothing, make money. Yeah i get that but somehow it feels even weirder when your betting on the value of actual currency over a companies performance or the price of oranges tomorrow.
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if you don't clear inventory before the end of the run it's lost to the void however, so it is best to be mindful of this esp if multiboxing.
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By Garuda. Chanti on 2025-04-29 11:24:37
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That's how the stock market works too. Buy good news sell bad news, do nothing, make money.
Day trading no different. Day trading is an adrenaline sport.
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Rumors about Shami's orbs and returning them to him were that it added a small amount of fame.
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By Carbuncle. Nynja on 2025-04-29 11:04:52
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So I should hold onto the gil for now.
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By Fenrir. Skarwind on 2025-04-29 11:02:23
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"This is AI Garbage, be aware.
Are you aware bro? I'm going to post this on every picture because I have nothing better to do"
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By Fenrir. Niflheim on 2025-04-29 10:52:20
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Currency trading has always seemed like a crazy market, like transferring funds from currency A to B when the exchange rate is high meaning for ever A you get 2 B, then exchanging back when the exchange rate drops for every A you get 1.5 B
so your original amount of A -> B -> A nets you 50% more A, obviously you have to transfer from a currency whose value is going to drop or to a currency whose value will increase :D or both if you are really lucky.
It just always seemed wild to me that you are making money without doing any work, no tangible good or service.
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By Carbuncle. Nynja on 2025-04-29 10:41:06
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Should I start selling gil now or wait for my currency to tank?
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By Dekoda on 2025-04-29 10:04:32
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Why doesn't trading any given orb to the burning circle just consume it?
Gameplay wise it's just a banana peel I gotta throw out. I don't have to discard empty potion bottles or pull the icarus wing feathers out of my teeth after I eat it, but these orbs just sit in your inventory broken.
Were they planning to do something with 'restocking' orbs with monsters that never came about?
For AMAN Trove, you can turn the orbs back into the NPC for a potential recharge.
For everything else, I have no idea. Maybe they planned to do something similar at one time. You can trade consumed orbs back to Shami and he will just take them. People had all sorts of theories of hidden mechanics with this that were probably false.
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I get that every run because I never have inventory space. Figured everyone knew this by now.
Also if you get multiple personals in sortie and don't have room, the game saves all of them for you and will drop into your bag when you make space. For example, if you do three bosses and each drops an old case, you'll continue to get the message, but if you make room, your log will show you "received 3 old cases" (literally that message). If it's 3 different items and you only make room for one spot, you'll get one personal and continue to get the message until you make more room in your bag. Usually by the time I drink my sodas I get all my drops at once
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