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It's nintendo, They're probably lining up their lawsuit on your last post for defamation lol
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By K123 on 2025-05-08 13:22:42 |
SWSD always worked only on the first hit of a weaponskill since the lvl 75 days.
What WSD gear was there at 75? idr |
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By Dodik on 2025-05-08 13:17:30 |
You think mages and light DD jobs taking path B nyame so they can routinely hit 99999 dmg ws on endgame bosses is a good thing?
It's fun, I don't see the issue. |
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By NynJa on 2025-05-08 13:05:55 |
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Hot take:
Not all bugs are bad
And theres no reason to believe it was changed unintentionally because 1hitters were pulling away from multihit WS
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I'm farming EP as a trio of real characters (THF/WAR, Idris GEO/RDM, Idris GEO/DNC). I can Entrust Indi-Haste (fulltime) on the THF and have the GEO/RDM Haste to cap Haste. Then the GEO/RDM keeps Indi-Fury up (and casts Dia II) while the other keeps Indi-Frailty up. One of them can cast Geo-Malaise for better MBs and the other could cast Geo-Acumen, I guess.
Qultada and Monberaux seem like obvious trust choices, but who should my third be?
I don't want them to do AoE damage and, if they break skillchains, I frown at them. Also, I don't want to do something annoying like switch unity to Naja and resummon her until she chooses Peacebreaker. Experimentally, August is incapable of holding hate long enough for me to SA. Should I just be using Matsui P?
Depends on what you're fighting, I guess?
Assuming Trusts could actually land hits, Abquhbah could get you his Salaheem's Spirit for +24 to all stats sometimes.
Chacharoon could occasionally provide a defense down or amnesia on the mobs.
If you're fighting Undead, you could use Mayakov to get real Haste Samba, and then sub out dual wield gear in your TP set accordingly for slightly beefier THF TP phase.
Lilisette II could also be employed for Rousing Samba for higher crit rate.
Selh'teus could provide extra MP restoration and occasional stuns.
Curilla is hot arm candy that you can TA. No she won't speed up your chain, but them thighs man. |
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Quote: Changing WSD to not affect extra hits of a WS was a rather heavy handed nerf, and that was even before Nyame Path B had its glow up.
When was this? WSD always only applied to the first hit of a weaponskill. What nerf are you talking about? |
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By NynJa on 2025-05-08 12:41:16 |
hate to lose another FFXI fan to this dead horse debate.
just delete the subforum already, please. nothing good has ever come from it. The guy who hadnt posted here in like a decade was already gone, they came back to shill a private server. |
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By K123 on 2025-05-08 12:02:13 |
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What mobs are you doing?
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Alternatively, and I know people are gonna ***, but cap WSD.
But muh DPS, that kinda falls into the nerf section and SE seems intent on not doing hard nerfs to stuff. Wouldnt mind i though, the WSD things been an issue since escha, it just wasnt a huge deal at that time but the gap steadily grew until nyame blew the door off, not even going into that the sets also one of the most sturdy sets for multiple jobs which just adds to the appeal as only sakpata and mpaca really gets away as a multi-hit set(or high ranked nyame still cause heres some DA too!) while keeping its defensive aspect otherwise you're wearing much less defensive gear when WSing |
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IF they want to keep ftp low for multi-hits, the best thing they could do is make WSD apply to all hits that also replicate TP. I don't know how difficult or easy that would be to do, but they've done it once by accident already! :D
IF if they don't want to let WSD affect all hits, then multi-hits need inherently higher base ftp progression to even compete with WSD.
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By NynJa on 2025-05-08 11:48:32 |
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Alternatively, and I know people are gonna ***, but cap WSD.
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By Asura. Vyre on 2025-05-08 11:16:20 |
Well done with FFXI - Bumba v25 is over - WC Self reset to a another 6 to seal the deal
Kicker - Matk down for the last aura - You had to be there.
 
Congratulations Nick East! I have it on good grounds that you've beaten Nick West. |
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By Bismarck. Nickeny on 2025-05-08 10:49:22 |
Gonna cap out nyame/gaol gear and finish sam -
From there, I guess I can sortie for the homies but I ain't going every day. My brd lua is *** - stopped swapping horn/harp, which is sad because my bard is a strong boy
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you'll likely never stop being a victim but i hope you one day get the help you need.
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You're probably right. Assuming you mean at 3k not 1k.
Doubt we'll see any changes to ws from now on though, the prime WS were effectively the adjustment.
And dagger, h2h, polearm all now have a high-ftp WS of their own.
That's fine, what overall needs to be addressed is the fact that FTP replicating WS have to have some way to compete with the fact that on front loaded WS you can enhance the damage a further 60-90% with WSD.
That means that ftp replicators have to have high enough base ftp mod to compete.
Raging Fists is a good example of how to do this, 5 hit, 1-3.75 ftp scaling, lowish WSC mods.
3.75 at 3k TP means that if you don't miss, and don't get any extra attacks, you're still looking at an effective 18.75 ftp for the WS. Savage at 3k is 13.75 with let's say 70 WSD it's effective 23.375 (not inlcuding Naegling 15%, or extra hit/s) |
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By Radec on 2025-05-08 10:18:19 |
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If your fights are typically something like WS1 > WS2 > 2xMB > dead, maybe Star Sibyl? 19MAB is pretty minor, but it'll always be up.
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By Dodik on 2025-05-08 09:51:17 |
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You're probably right. Assuming you mean at 3k not 1k.
Doubt we'll see any changes to ws from now on though, the prime WS were effectively the adjustment.
And dagger, h2h, polearm all now have a high-ftp WS of their own.
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I am half-expecting a Nyame-like armor set but with tons of MA and crit rate to be added at some point. A bit like Gleti but better, I guess.
I honestly believe it's not a gear issue though.
Who is going to use a 5 hit, 1.75 ftp WS over a 1 hit 13 ftp WS? |
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Yes, it's same reason the Sam or War or Drg mythics are not that good - the attached WS kinda sucks.
I am half-expecting a Nyame-like armor set but with tons of MA and crit rate to be added at some point. A bit like Gleti but better, I guess.
But even Monk got a heavy high ftp front loaded WS that takes advantage of Nyame. With the prime h2h.
Removing the attack penalty would be a massive step in the right direction. |
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By Dodik on 2025-05-08 08:58:33 |
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MP becomes an issue if you have your geos nuking.
Will need some source of refresh so probably AOE refresh trust. Koru should also refresh them.
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KoH is tempting but I think if I don't let him make Fusion with Bludgeon he will start using Deal Out (AoE, conal?).
I probably could go with Corsair sub.
With Malaise, the GEOs MB for 90k+, so I don't really want to give that up. Honestly, a lot of my time is spent moving between monsters. I wonder if I should just figure out how to pull monster ahead of time. The key with EP is to never let chain drop, so my worst kill time can't be more than 30s (IIRC). If it drops, 50k/hr. If it doesn't drop, 100k/hr. Subbing COR will push that up by maybe 8~10% on average, but if it makes me less likely to maintain chain then it is unlikely to be worth it.
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By Dodik on 2025-05-08 08:46:12 |
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V25 butterfly, Dealan-dhe, is a good choice to do 3x runs on for charging, with amps.
RP from Dealan can then be spent on Hesperiidae to make your bst oozing better.
A 3x run on Dealan v25 with amps will get you around 6.9-7.2k RP total, enough to cap at least R15 from R0.
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Realistically this is the BiS set you're gonna get for Beastmaster pec M acc. Nyame Path D and the prime axe are so niche that nobody picks them over alternatives. I've used this against V25 bumba and never failed to land ooze on the first try. Bumba is one of the easiest things to land ooze on so just pick up the standard set and you'll be fine.
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so reminiscent of this community in 2003-2007 with the extreme WoW hate.
ah well, one game is still going strong and the other..
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Im so frustrated by this new ***from Nintendo lawsuit.
I know this is business, but using patents to protect things like throwing a damn sphere or gliding, makes me feel like it is not long before Nintendo shut down the entire game.
The game is awesome, it is not even a real Pokemon competitor, they dont appeal to the exact same playerbase
Also those patents are dumb, this is not protecting intelectual prploperty, it is just abysing the law to enforce monopoly
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By . on 2025-05-08 06:45:34 |
Well done with FFXI - Bumba v25 is over - WC Self reset to a another 6 to seal the deal
Woooooooooooo long time coming!
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By Dodik on 2025-05-08 06:37:51 |
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The two semis between Inter and Barca ended:
Barcelona - Inter: 3 - 3
Inter - Barcelona: 4 - 3 After Extra Time
Well worth watching the highlights.
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By Kaffy on 2025-05-08 06:25:35 |
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hate to lose another FFXI fan to this dead horse debate.
just delete the subforum already, please. nothing good has ever come from it.
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Have a Yamal Ghibli style
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