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Chip manufacturing is service I suppose, but the value is the chip fabrication technology. Which is the difference between top tier foundries and the lower tier ones. As dimensions shrink and fewer and fewer people either have or are willing to invest resource into technology to actually make them. IP Design is also a service, but to make chips you need both fabrication technology and IP Development. (neither is any good without the other) Most of the fundamental improvement is coming from the technology development though.
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Fenrir.Brimstonefox said: »Stack Overflow (seriously this is where like 90% of the worlds code gets made)
Every programmer has a bookshelf full of books called f'Object oriented programming in {language}', but they are all for show. Once you understand logic and basic workflows, the only book you need is

This is my favorite one

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Fenrir.Brimstonefox said: »Stack Overflow (seriously this is where like 90% of the worlds code gets made)
Every programmer has a bookshelf full of books called f'Object oriented programming in {language}', but they are all for show. Once you understand logic and basic workflows, the only book you need is

Not sure how my name got in the original quote box there, but that's hilarious! (and true!)
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That is to separate them from non-LLM systems like the watchdog I mentioned earlier. Those systems take non-language data and apply it to a purpose built model and use that to generate a new model that can be used to find existing patterns and predict new patterns. And the financial sector is absolutely using this to predict markets. Such things are still rudimentary as they have to be developed in secrecy but people are working on them.
Of course people are working on them, they don't work. I've built my own, in fact my deterministic models are beating my ML models. One mistake can wipe out 50 successes. AI substantially better than a coinflip, but even a 90% success rate can send you to the poor house depending on how badly the misses are.
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just... levelling a war...?
Call my crazy but I feel like literally everyone should have a 99 war and 99 thf, purely just for proccing abyssea and etc on war, and thf for TH ***
Its 2025, I have to assume literally everyone has a lv 99 warrior now right?
I use nin for abyssea procs and have 15/22 jobs geared up split between my 3 characters with a possible 2 or 3 more in the future to add to the roster, however, war will remain lv60 forever as a subjob.
Nothing against war, just not my preference. :)
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By . on 2025-05-23 15:04:20
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I even looked at gastronomy courses.
Most of them are too long for my casual needs.
Maybe an online one for the theory, the practicing during lunches
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The automobile didn't put cab drivers out of business, it put horses out of business.
this is a good line that can be used to show the differences between people's view of the topic.
some people believe the cab driver is the programmer, idk what the horse is in that case.
Others believe the customer is the driver, and the programmer is the horse i think this lines up with saevel's point regarding "low skilled workers".
so who do you think the driver is and who/what the horse is?
The horse is a tool, the driver is the human, this context is about how technology and automation can make skillsets obsolete and how humans need to adapt an acquire more relevant skillsets.
Human labor can broadly be broken into three categories.
No/Low Skilled workers, these are humans that perform tasks that can be taught within six months or less. These are people who are highly replaceable because more humans are becoming adults and entering this category every day.
Skilled workers, these are humans that perform tasks requiring six months to a year or more of training to perform their tasks. Replacing them can be expensive as they take much longer to grow, though not impossible. Large shifts in a market or technology can replace them.
Professional workers, these are humans with skills that take years to learn and a lifetime to master. They are virtually irreplaceable and are highly sought after and frequently poached. They are the least vulnerable to becoming obsolete, a lifetime mastering a set of skills usually comes with several adjacent skills and masteries that make them very flexible. When one market goes boom they can parley those adjacent skills into another market.
Most humans fall into the low/no skilled category. It's the easiest to get into, requires the least amount of continuous effort and allows for the most personal time to pursue non-work related hobbies. It also pays the least and is the least stable. Those who knuckle down an grind can get into the skilled workers category and get steady reliable income, or even build a business. Lots of personal time was spent learning skills and keeping up with trends, but it pays off because these guys aren't often unemployed. The last category is the rarest and anyone who gets there is having to turn down job offers all the time.
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By Garuda. Chanti on 2025-05-23 14:42:52
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I want to be able to prepare high quality steak You are closer to Argentina than the USA. Their beef is better. I have no idea about Brazilian beef.
You need a cast iron frying pan, pepper, butter and/or olive oil or avocado oil if available.
Heat pan over stove. Coarse grind pepper heavily all over the steak. Whap the pepper into the steak with the flat side of a meat tenderizer or the bottom of a bottle. Add oil to the pan, when it gets shimmery add the butter, then the steak. When you have a good sear pull the steak out, add more butter, sear the other side, then finish cooking the steak to your preference. If your preference is anything beyond medium may the gods have mercy on your soul. On your steak too.
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No matter how advanced you make the AI, you still have to communicate needs to it in some way, for it to help you with a task. I don't agree. AI models will gain domain knowledge in all kinds of fields, then combining multiple agents acting as domain experts to synthesise their knowledge, with understanding of what works (market research) and trends and what could create value (from big data) AI will be able to devise its own projects, briefs, specifications, and realise them.
To say: AI will not be able to plan and devise [insert] [app/progam/website] from scratch with minimal instruction is dubious.
You can already do what is a full end to end approach to devising and designing things with LLMs. I run a similar process to this: https://www.nature.com/articles/s42256-025-01036-4 with my undergraduate students as case studies for my PhD research.
How is the AI able to do all that, without subject matter experts weighing in in order to confirm that the AI is doing it right.
Allow me this allegory.
You are in a foreign city, and you need a cab to a location on the other side. You have 2 options:
1.A driverless car that is automated, but not trained on specifically this city's layout or patterns, but just driving in general
2. The same as the above, but it has a cab driver native to the city and who knows the layout like the back of his hand. The car still drives quite well, but he keeps an eye on it and guides it.
Now you have, yourself, zero clue on how this city is laid out, what are good vs bad routes, etc.
You could trust option 1, but the issue is simply this: how would you even know if that car is doing a good job or not?
You could look up routes, but you never could be 100% confident the car is actually making the right choices, because you don't know what the right choices are.
Meanwhile, if you go option 2, the cab driver themself actually knows the area and you can be much more confident in their nuanced knowledge.
The same goes for this discussion: An actual "pilot" with an LLM is always going to be better.
If a client was confident enough to know if the LLM was doing the job right or not, they also wouldn't need a developer anyways.
But blindly trusting an LLM to probably be right, even a very very advanced one 20 years from now, is a great way to produce a result that is riddled with issues and get yourself in hot water.
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By K123 on 2025-05-23 14:21:52
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I think you're missing the ”will be able to" part.
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Real quick, just wanted to double check, the area of effect for random deal/wild card is 8 yalms? the same as a roll without luzaf's ring and luzaf's ring does not affect Random/WC aoe range, right?
Wiki currently doesn't state aoe range
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By K123 on 2025-05-23 14:03:53
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Guessing BLM body can't be more than 3% before getting overpowered.
Song duration +1/2% at most.
More time on bergressor will be welcome.
NIN feet +4 I wish they'd just make full time 25% movement speed. Could this really cause problems anywhere for cheating content?
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Fenrir.Brimstonefox said: »There's a reason there's a ton of AI chatbots and none that can predict stock prices, a regression model to do the later is a much easier task, and a much more valuable one. (note: anyone who did this would surpass Elon's wealth in a short time)
People have been trying to predict stock market prices via algorithm WAY before AI, it's called technical analysis. An AI would be just the same as technical analysis, but with less human emotions affecting them.
The reason why algorithm/economic models/technical analysis/doesn't work accurately on market price prediction is because economy by nature, is a complicated issue that has WAY more unpredictable human variables that will affect the price. The US president can make a post on social media and market will fluctuate hardcore. No algorithm nor technical analysis can accurately predict that.
It's not AI nor algorithm fault, it's the limitations of algorithm by nature.
That being said, I still use technical analysis on some decision making in stock market. They are not completely useless. As long as people are aware of its limitation that is.
Markets fluctuate for many reasons (some of which you mentioned), but the ultimate reason is just number of buyers vs. sellers (why that is is another story) for a given commodity. My main point is to compare the consequences of being wrong when a chat bot goes awry vs. when a trading bot goes awry.
When people no longer fear bad consequences of AI doing stuff then it will replace people (often the jobs morph more than disappear)
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By . on 2025-05-23 13:37:58
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I formally sent my offer to buy my new home. Right now just waiting for the answer to start the paperwork.
Soon I will have the Panta's Shrine.
Im thinking in learning cooking skills.
I want to be able to prepare high quality steak
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Basing the future off the present limitations is kinda the point you're missing.
This is a fundamental logical argument that is outside of the scope of AI capabilities.
Its akin to "how do you describe to a blind person what blue looks like"
You enter a paradoxical situation where both sides of the discussion must have the lexicon in order for information to convey.
No matter how advanced you make the AI, you still have to communicate needs to it in some way, for it to help you with a task.
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By K123 on 2025-05-23 13:35:25
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Any 4 steps you can do that start and end that way?
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By K123 on 2025-05-23 13:34:25
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You have to know the right questions to ask, to get the right answers.
If you dont know what functions, arrays, stack vs heap, pointers, ref vs value types, hash functions, trees, graphs, etc are... all that stuff you learn in computer sciences and algorithms... then how are you gonna steer the AI to actually get the outcomes you want?
You can't ask the AI to make a <thing> when you dont know the right words for that <thing> are. You'll start wasting a huge amount of time first getting the AI to explain to you what that thingy is, then backpedaling and asking for it.
Finally, AI is garbage as soon as you are remotely esoteric domain knowledge. If you are using anything that came out in the last year, its just gonna ***the bed and fall over, cuz it doesnt have training data for it.
RAGs can help with this, but that only works if the thing is very very very well documented, and then you have to waste a buncha time first loading all that documentation into a vector DB for RAG'ing on.
100% agree, this is why learning to code is still critical even in an AI capable future. Basing the future off the present limitations is kinda the point you're missing.
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People have different view on this topic because some business/jobs are service providers and some business/jobs are value providers.
I am not sure how you draw a line between a service and value since they are not mutually exclusive. do you have a better word then service to use here?
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You have to know the right questions to ask, to get the right answers.
If you dont know what functions, arrays, stack vs heap, pointers, ref vs value types, hash functions, trees, graphs, etc are... all that stuff you learn in computer sciences and algorithms... then how are you gonna steer the AI to actually get the outcomes you want?
You can't ask the AI to make a <thing> when you dont know the right words for that <thing> are. You'll start wasting a huge amount of time first getting the AI to explain to you what that thingy is, then backpedaling and asking for it.
Finally, AI is garbage as soon as you are remotely esoteric domain knowledge. If you are using anything that came out in the last year, its just gonna ***the bed and fall over, cuz it doesnt have training data for it.
RAGs can help with this, but that only works if the thing is very very very well documented, and then you have to waste a buncha time first loading all that documentation into a vector DB for RAG'ing on.
100% agree, this is why learning to code is still critical even in an AI capable future.
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AM2 = 2k Last Stanrd > 1k Savage > Light > 1k Last Stand > Radiance Is there a version that ends with savage blade is my question. Guessing not since it has to end with the aeonic so it was a dumb question No, no Savage Blade enders for the Ultimate Skillchains. It has to end with a level 3 property while you have AM in effect.
It can work with Empyrean weaponskills as well, which is why there are a host of jobs that can do both Radiance and Umbra.
COR, RNG, NIN, DRG, PLD, BLU, RDM, THF, BRD, DNC, and GEO all may make both Radiance and Umbra due to having weaponskills innate to their weapon type/jobs that have the opposite SC type.
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AI is horribly non-deterministic in its answers, which makes it unsuitable for important tasks, it can be used to augment productivity but not replace things that require definitive correctness.
I don't see that changing anytime soon. There's a reason there's a ton of AI chatbots and none that can predict stock prices, a regression model to do the later is a much easier task, and a much more valuable one. (note: anyone who did this would surpass Elon's wealth in a short time)
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Programmer is the driver, the IDE is the horse.
sounds plausible, but why not Product Manager is the driver, the Programmer the horse?
replace the programmer with an "AI" that the product manager interacts with in the same manner.
So what is the unique aspect of the "Programmer" the prevents the role from being collapse to a higher level in the org?
Domain Knowledge, basically my above post.
You have to know the right questions to ask, to get the right answers.
If you dont know what functions, arrays, stack vs heap, pointers, ref vs value types, hash functions, trees, graphs, etc are... all that stuff you learn in computer sciences and algorithms... then how are you gonna steer the AI to actually get the outcomes you want?
You can't ask the AI to make a <thing> when you dont know the right words for that <thing> are. You'll start wasting a huge amount of time first getting the AI to explain to you what that thingy is, then backpedaling and asking for it.
Finally, AI is garbage as soon as you are remotely esoteric domain knowledge. If you are using anything that came out in the last year, its just gonna ***the bed and fall over, cuz it doesnt have training data for it.
RAGs can help with this, but that only works if the thing is very very very well documented, and then you have to waste a buncha time first loading all that documentation into a vector DB for RAG'ing on.
By which point the real human developer probably already is 1/3rd done the project.
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Yeah Simon's right. I've just never noticed since I always multistep with lower AM levels anyway.
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Programmer is the driver, the IDE is the horse.
sounds plausible, but why not Product Manager is the driver, the Programmer the horse?
replace the programmer with an "AI" that the product manager interacts with in the same manner.
So what is the unique aspect of the "Programmer" the prevents the role from being collapse to a higher level in the org?
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I assumed when they wrote "AM3 = " at the start, the implication there was that you already had AM3 up, that seemed kinda obvious to me...
If he had am3 up, then he wouldn't need 3k LS. 1k LS x2 would be enough.
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I think your 2 step solution isn't reality and basically comes back round to what I was saying about design.
You have people that need an app/program/website to serve x function. You have a company that makes apps, of which some employees are programmers. Between these you have design. Not every designer/product manager programs, not every programmer designs.
People also vastly underestimate how huge a difference someone skilled with the AI tools vs someone without those skills performs.
You can't easily get an AI to design stuff for you if you dont even know all the right lingo to prompt it correctly. How are you gonna ask it to make it do the right thing, if you don't know all the right words to use?
The domain knowledge is still critical, and it takes time and effort to pick that up.
LLMs are like machines you pilot, yes when we invented the airplane it allowed us to get from A to B way way faster... but you still need a pilot to drive it
LLMs still dont do diddly squat without a skilled pilot. And any CEO that thinks "thats easy I can do that" hasnt used it much yet, because as soon as you get like 30 minutes into fighting with it, you'll realize its way harder than it looks.
It's like trying to pretend that simply having access to Microsoft Word is all it takes to write a novel. The tool is merely a tool, you still gotta know how to use it well.
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By K123 on 2025-05-23 13:05:26
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AM2 = 2k Last Stanrd > 1k Savage > Light > 1k Last Stand > Radiance Is there a version that ends with savage blade is my question. Guessing not since it has to end with the aeonic so it was a dumb question
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